Pixie
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Post by Pixie on Jul 22, 2017 2:42:03 GMT
Its pretty hard to find a pt if you are under powered... making getting your set difficult. usually i need to farm other stuff and just buy equips and xtals... ive pretty much given up on finding pts xD
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Post by ManaKhe on Jul 22, 2017 3:18:23 GMT
There are a few clear balance problems amongst different classes. A very big problem is AOE vs Single target grinding.
AOE is far superior, even with single target damage being a lot higher overall in this game than AOE, because it is more efficient. This is exacerbated by the fact that nothing has high enough HP for a single target party to be efficient. 3i's are still squishy when it comes to current standards. If you doubled 3i HP they would still get completely demolished by a single target party. AOE will basically always be better than single target but the gap wouldn't be as large as it is now if there were real high HP mobs. I would define real high HP mob as a mob that can last 15-20+ seconds to a great single target party. This would lower the efficiency gap between AOE and single target considerably.
The problem with this is it would basically just include Assassin, Geo Monk, Enchanter(maybe, definitely if mob was not light, dark, or neutral), Samurai(also maybe), and BK(again maybe) to the meta. Servant, Sniper, Claw Monk, and Necromancer will have to wait for new skills to join in. Gladiator new skills look underwhelming to me so idk about them. Alchemist is Alchemist. Current meta is SK, 0, Mins, Bish for bosses. HW, HW, Mins, Bish for aoe or just Paladin.
Tanking also seems like its disappearing and the "tanks" are just becoming DPS that are tanky lol.
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Post by Zycron on Jul 22, 2017 13:09:08 GMT
Not even Tanky you get a servant in party bam Dps has 40k+ hp hehe with perma hate
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Post by Makina Yuki on Jul 23, 2017 13:15:34 GMT
Ppl only looks how useful dps class only by single damage that one class can dealt, thats why auto atk class such as samu, monk, and ench hard to get party even though they can do high dps (sometimes higher than hw or sk on certain mob).
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Post by nic123 on Jul 27, 2017 13:19:29 GMT
jus saying, walking might be fun or even running but when u got 10 miles to travel the fastest way is by car or train, so why would you walk (this is basically meta players logic) in jp the logic they use the anime fairy tales logic, friendship, friendship, friendship even if its 4 assasins, they will get pots and grind together. anyway addressing people saying meta puts strain on bishop does it really?, there are different bosses, lets look at cordal, bishop just has to buff when boss is killed, and spam ressu inside, literally has to press one button during entire fight lets look at sauro 2, same thing basically, i would say hw has hardest time in sauro2 gotta keep alive first of all, so u gotta keep distance, gotta use thunderbolt, bliz, then zero spam if u die as a hw in sauro 2, u need to rebuff grigori which takes 10 seconds. ive only played sauro 2 as hw perspective so i may be off at parazaia i duo with hw and bish and bish definitely doesent have a large strain lol I disagree w/ you regarding bishops. I have experienced playing bishop in party farming( ie. raton, ouvel, cordal). Yes, most of the time you spam resu but you have 3 players to spam resu on. Next is maintaining the hp of minstrel ( most of the parties need/ require minstrel), having to switch from resu to heal then resu again while maintaining my, our hw, the other hw, and the minstrel' health and minding the debuffs of the boss+ stuns+hate+delay buff. Man i think that's hard. if the minstrel has a jade ricus (which they should) joy and sorow regains them enuf ho that the bishop doesent need to lift a finger to heal them. and if you buy a bishop a proper set, just spamming ressu on 3 people really isnt hard compared to hw and sk, for sk u gotta clone with timing etc, and hw is really frustrating, especially when bander doesent connect..
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Post by udontknowmeh on Jul 29, 2017 10:03:19 GMT
As a lvl219 hw I can solo popular all grinding spot That includes 3I YARDE MEGA NOMMAR B.WARRIOR U JUST NEED ABOUT 10K HP TO SOLO YARDE, B.WARRIOR AND MEGA
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Jul 29, 2017 10:55:00 GMT
nic123 bro, I think you mistakenly posted somethin' in the wrong thread (correct me if I'm wrong)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2017 11:29:54 GMT
As a lvl219 hw I can solo popular all grinding spot That includes 3I YARDE MEGA NOMMAR B.WARRIOR U JUST NEED ABOUT 10K HP TO SOLO YARDE, B.WARRIOR AND MEGA I have a Lv166 HW with 3-4k HP and I can solo Yarde ouo slow kill tho xD I bet you can also solo 3i with just bliz o3o
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Post by Makina Yuki on Jul 29, 2017 11:43:39 GMT
Soloing high exp mobs is easy. Fast kill them is another matter.
Nail nin, ench, or necro maybe can solo yarde at lv 160+, but they need 1-2 minute to kill yarde ._.
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Jul 29, 2017 14:15:31 GMT
Lol. I was talking about how Party-Playing is effective. Turned out to be this thread is representing how Solo is effective
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Post by pingrek on Jul 29, 2017 14:42:29 GMT
Lol. I was talking about how Party-Playing is effective. Turned out to be this thread is representing how Solo is effective Solo may be effective but half of the time it's not as time efficient as party is, I may be a solo player most of the time but when I'm in the mood I enjoy being in a party with people
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Post by nic123 on Jul 29, 2017 16:08:38 GMT
nic123 bro, I think you mistakenly posted somethin' in the wrong thread (correct me if I'm wrong) dont think so, they guy was saying bish had to maintain mins hp, was saying if the mins had a jade ricus they woudnt need bish to maintain thier hp
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Post by udontknowmeh on Aug 5, 2017 14:16:35 GMT
As a lvl219 hw I can solo popular all grinding spot That includes 3I YARDE MEGA NOMMAR B.WARRIOR U JUST NEED ABOUT 10K HP TO SOLO YARDE, B.WARRIOR AND MEGA I have a Lv166 HW with 3-4k HP and I can solo Yarde ouo slow kill tho xD I bet you can also solo 3i with just bliz o3oYes I can solo 3i with bliz but I lvl to 241 so I'm a bit faster I also have 15k hp
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Aug 6, 2017 7:01:21 GMT
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