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Post by NightBreeze on Mar 20, 2018 18:15:19 GMT
You won't really be able to spam, because Dnewt now erases one song. So spamming at max dmg will require buffing the lost song between Dnewts, but I imagine all that singing would generate a lot of hate. I believe they're going not going to change the spam. really. Since they're not going to apply the new "magic" changed dragonewt. It's clear that the nerf to Dragonewt won't be no more. Since they're going to re-change the whole Minstrel balance to physical. Well yeah, they changed the skills back to physical. But they didn't revert anything, all the changes are still in effect, including the Dnewt spam nerf. You can test it yourself on the test server if you want.
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♪Sumire
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Summoner new skills pls *-*
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Post by ♪Sumire on Mar 21, 2018 1:42:27 GMT
I believe they're going not going to change the spam. really. Since they're not going to apply the new "magic" changed dragonewt. It's clear that the nerf to Dragonewt won't be no more. Since they're going to re-change the whole Minstrel balance to physical. Well yeah, they changed the skills back to physical. But they didn't revert anything, all the changes are still in effect, including the Dnewt spam nerf. You can test it yourself on the test server if you want. would have been really nice if they didnt actaully removed that matk version and just keep it as an option just like ninjas yin and yang mode that way anyone can go mins without having to really changed their stats
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Post by 『Acedia』 on Mar 21, 2018 8:54:30 GMT
Well yeah, they changed the skills back to physical. But they didn't revert anything, all the changes are still in effect, including the Dnewt spam nerf. You can test it yourself on the test server if you want. would have been really nice if they didnt actaully removed that matk version and just keep it as an option just like ninjas yin and yang mode that way anyone can go mins without having to really changed their stats both atk n matk kinda op like u can go w/ throwing (str int crt rest dex) will surpassed other job skills
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Pixie
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Post by Pixie on Apr 10, 2018 13:01:42 GMT
I wish they would do something like dragonnewt damage effect depend on song if you pt with magic class u use buff wisdom almost always and melee class mostly want passion or nostalgia almost always. This would allow you to switch when needed and equip as nessessary.
Another idea would be to have passive that boost atk or matk u can switch to one or the other. This would be the simpilest way of accomplishing this. That way the damage is consistant no matter what pt you get put in with. Probably would need a new staff/throw just for minstrels matk up by str so u can pair with magic amp or cgb and try to get balanced matk xD
The descriptions are kinda weird, everytime you sing a song you do some kind of damage?
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Apr 10, 2018 15:24:28 GMT
I wish they would do something like dragonnewt damage effect depend on song if you pt with magic class u use buff wisdom almost always and melee class mostly want passion or nostalgia almost always. This would allow you to switch when needed and equip as nessessary. Another idea would be to have passive that boost atk or matk u can switch to one or the other. This would be the simpilest way of accomplishing this. That way the damage is consistant no matter what pt you get put in with. Probably would need a new staff/throw just for minstrels matk up by str so u can pair with magic amp or cgb and try to get balanced matk xD The descriptions are kinda weird, everytime you sing a song you do some kind of damage?Yeah . Thats what the JP Blog says ouo.
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Post by 『Acedia』 on Apr 11, 2018 14:39:37 GMT
I wish they would do something like dragonnewt damage effect depend on song if you pt with magic class u use buff wisdom almost always and melee class mostly want passion or nostalgia almost always. This would allow you to switch when needed and equip as nessessary. Another idea would be to have passive that boost atk or matk u can switch to one or the other. This would be the simpilest way of accomplishing this. That way the damage is consistant no matter what pt you get put in with. Probably would need a new staff/throw just for minstrels matk up by str so u can pair with magic amp or cgb and try to get balanced matk xD The descriptions are kinda weird, everytime you sing a song you do some kind of damage?Yeah . Thats what the JP Blog says ouo. i still dont get dmg calculations for songs but if it work like old dnewt nah idk qwq
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Post by ^Archer^ on Jul 27, 2018 12:01:01 GMT
Ralat : Nostalgia song not required level. If u to be minstrel, u only buy at eryldan shop.
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Post by ^Archer^ on Jul 27, 2018 12:01:39 GMT
Ralat : Nostalgia song not required level. If u to be minstrel, u only buy at eryldan shop.
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NightinGals
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Post by NightinGals on Aug 1, 2018 20:14:32 GMT
There were some slight changes to the thread. Equipment didn't really change after the patch. Other than spamming songs is really easy now.
But some side notes...
Tank Minstrel is possible. (INT VIT AGI) Possible better tank than Pally(?) But does no damage what so ever. Solo Minstrel is very good now. Early game Minstrel is strong but squishy.
The thread will be updated again after new skills release.
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Post by Done~with~forums on Aug 1, 2018 20:33:14 GMT
For it to be a tank it needs to be able to hold the bosses agro and when i tried this with my own mins it was very hard to gain more hate then the hw/bish.....
for mob grind tank this wont work unless its full non aoe party
Ull need a servant to use enrage on you
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Post by Done~with~forums on Aug 1, 2018 20:35:43 GMT
Not saying it isn't possible cuz with life/war my mins has 100k+hp 900+ eva and with the life song now healing user gives the healer in party a chance to focus on other members....
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Ismyle
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Post by Ismyle on Aug 2, 2018 10:05:28 GMT
1HP Buff Set1HP Buff Set is useful for long-term party buffing without any healing especially grinding. It also useful for party buffing in some boss battle. Using at least 3 ◇Ganei on Buff Set (Refer Ultimate Supporter Build Table for equipment) you can spam buff song without a problem. Is this set effective or at least relevant after the patch? Because in my opinion, Minstrels will die easily before they're done casting all the four songs (or even one song, if a Minstrel's reaction time was not that good) for most of the time and unless there is a tank in a grinding party, this set is pretty much suicidal.
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Post by NightBreeze on Aug 2, 2018 10:59:51 GMT
1HP Buff Set1HP Buff Set is useful for long-term party buffing without any healing especially grinding. It also useful for party buffing in some boss battle. Using at least 3 ◇Ganei on Buff Set (Refer Ultimate Supporter Build Table for equipment) you can spam buff song without a problem. Is this set effective or at least relevant after the patch? Because in my opinion, Minstrels will die easily before they're done casting all the four songs (or even one song, if a Minstrel's reaction time was not that good) for most of the time and unless there is a tank in a grinding party, this set is pretty much suicidal. I think this set is no longer relevant after the balance update, since songs now consume very little HP in comparison to before. A lot of stuff needs to be updated in this guide. Also there's stuff missing, like the excellent STR CRT VIT spec claw build that I'm using.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 23:14:05 GMT
Yeah that 1HP set useless after patch. RIP rebuffing at wizard. XD
Anyway I was planning to update guide however screwed at tables and spoiler. (some weird code added by nightingals members... idk who ._.)
Also due to summer vacation had to delay the updates (RIP slow internet on island).
Will work on the guide once I get stable connection or back from vacation. o.o)/
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 22:56:14 GMT
Update on skills description and usage. Feel free to correct if anything wrong
For some reason I didn't notice bonus on skill such as cleave and joy because both have bonus of healing effect increase. Did some experiment but still no notable effect.
Also can someone confirm if CRT rate on nostalgia song 100% if no CRT stat and purple line at all.
Will be updating Damage rank for skills so that you can decide which song to spam soon
Also will add tips on song usage per song knowledge soon.
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