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Post by Zensui_X on Apr 26, 2017 18:21:57 GMT
Which one is stronger?
Given that both are
-same ability
-same quality
-same crysta
Share your thoughts
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Post by NightBreeze on Apr 27, 2017 8:06:27 GMT
Saw this video:
It seems Universe is stronger.
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Post by Pixie on Apr 27, 2017 10:24:12 GMT
id imagine the preference of using spellbook over universe would be that spellbook 2s is easier to obtain than uni 2s...
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Post by Crysta|'s hubby on Apr 27, 2017 20:09:38 GMT
In the video he has magic4 on universe and no abil on spellbook
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Post by pingrek on Apr 27, 2017 21:00:48 GMT
In the video he has magic4 on universe and no abil on spellbook That only gives a negligible amount of matk that doesn't cover the difference in damage done |
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Post by Crysta|'s hubby on Apr 27, 2017 22:04:37 GMT
That "negligible " amount of matk gets higher with matk+% and you'd be surprised not saying for certain one way or the other but its an unfair test also you'd have to take into consideration the atk difference unless both are minimum/max atk its hard to have a fair test
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Post by pingrek on Apr 27, 2017 22:44:10 GMT
That "negligible " amount of matk gets higher with matk+% and you'd be surprised not saying for certain one way or the other but its an unfair test also you'd have to take into consideration the atk difference unless both are minimum/max atk its hard to have a fair test I agree that the atk difference from both does affect the test, also according to the ability guide lvl4 magic gives 22matk which will get boosted by the percents but still it won't cover a good 20k difference in damage |
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Post by AizenSou [Quitting] on Apr 30, 2017 21:15:45 GMT
That "negligible " amount of matk gets higher with matk+% and you'd be surprised not saying for certain one way or the other but its an unfair test also you'd have to take into consideration the atk difference unless both are minimum/max atk its hard to have a fair test Spellbook v4 can never beat Universe simply just because Soellbook's max atk is Universe's low atk. However though that's not a point, why Universe still win is because the difference in RAW MATK that Universe had beat the mere Neutral Magic+25% of Spellbook. My friend tested them both Universe wins with small margin (about 30k difference) but Spellbook v4 2s beats Universe 1s dramatically. |
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Post by Crysta|'s hubby on Apr 30, 2017 23:17:15 GMT
That "negligible " amount of matk gets higher with matk+% and you'd be surprised not saying for certain one way or the other but its an unfair test also you'd have to take into consideration the atk difference unless both are minimum/max atk its hard to have a fair test Spellbook v4 can never beat Universe simply just because Soellbook's max atk is Universe's low atk. However though that's not a point, why Universe still win is because the difference in RAW MATK that Universe had beat the mere Neutral Magic+25% of Spellbook. My friend tested them both Universe wins with small margin (about 30k difference) but Spellbook v4 2s beats Universe 1s dramatically. The fact about any magic+% is the more matk you have the more it wins out over raw matk so at some point spellbook4 very well could surpass universe just not at this time~ maybe spellbook 4 2s 2 gerust would beat universe 2s 2 gerust (specified gerust cuz most matk+% I know its not exactly practical but sauro2 xtal isn't out yet so I can't really use it as the example) |
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Post by Crysta|'s hubby on Apr 30, 2017 23:20:57 GMT
Also I'm not saying its 100% guaranteed just that its very likely I do know for a fact the more matk you have the more magic+% wins over more matk (tested on both bishop and hw ) but seeing as universe raw matk increases by lvl as well its all depends on lvl and gear available at the time
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Post by Tilt*Madara on May 1, 2017 20:36:18 GMT
Well if its 1s universe will pretty much win no matter what.
If you want to go into 2s, which is talked about like it's some commom mob drop for some reason, and stuff spell book with the same xtals, no doubt spell book would win.
Really easy.
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Post by Crysta|'s hubby on May 1, 2017 20:38:57 GMT
To be fair spell book is a mob drop XD but yes I see your point
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Post by AizenSou [Quitting] on May 2, 2017 6:30:45 GMT
Spellbook v4 can never beat Universe simply just because Soellbook's max atk is Universe's low atk. However though that's not a point, why Universe still win is because the difference in RAW MATK that Universe had beat the mere Neutral Magic+25% of Spellbook. My friend tested them both Universe wins with small margin (about 30k difference) but Spellbook v4 2s beats Universe 1s dramatically. The fact about any magic+% is the more matk you have the more it wins out over raw matk so at some point spellbook4 very well could surpass universe just not at this time~ maybe spellbook 4 2s 2 gerust would beat universe 2s 2 gerust (specified gerust cuz most matk+% I know its not exactly practical but sauro2 xtal isn't out yet so I can't really use it as the example) That work on magic like Imperial however magic+% doesn't really affect zero ray, it works too but not much like to Imperial or the four magics. According to my friend test where Universe 1s wins against Spellbook v4 1s, we can tell that Universe 2s wins against Spellbook v4 2s and that's not to mention Universe [Strengthened 1] |
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Post by nic123 on May 5, 2017 12:36:46 GMT
here are my findings
tellas gerust -720k-730k
sbook 2s but one gerust 740k-760k
universe gerust - 770-780k
spellbook 2s 2 gerust- 790k+ even did 1m solo wit sb
this was all with magic 5 abi (which btw wit all my matk xtals add near 100+ matk for those saying magic abi wont make a big dif)
so yes thats the order but i think universe max sr upgraded, will beat the sbook.... not sure tho
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Post by nic123 on May 5, 2017 12:41:21 GMT
here are my findings tellas gerust -720k-730k sbook 2s but one gerust 740k-760k universe gerust - 770-780k spellbook 2s 2 gerust- 790k+ even did 1m solo wit sb this was all with magic 5 abi (which btw wit all my matk xtals add near 100+ matk for those saying magic abi wont make a big dif) so yes thats the order but i think universe max sr upgraded, will beat the sbook.... not sure tho p.s the differences may seem low, but when you are spell boosted and in a full pt wew, sbook 2s outdamages uni by over 120k, my univ has retired as my pt rod and has settled down with an iniliba in it for resist >> |
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