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Post by onizuka on Apr 16, 2017 21:55:34 GMT
Hi, i want to change my FB.4 to one of those weapon But,cant choose, so can i ask which the better for HW Zero? And can tell me the reason too?
Thanks
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Post by AizenSou [Quitting] on Apr 17, 2017 8:35:43 GMT
Barotas is on the lowest chart of those staffs and Sauro Stick L4 is not final as Sauro Stick L5 will be coming soon
Notes : L5 is not upgrade of L4 therefore you can't up it, it is obtain from S400's chest
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Post by ♪Sumire on Apr 17, 2017 9:23:34 GMT
Hi, i want to change my FB.4 to one of those weapon But,cant choose, so can i ask which the better for HW Zero? And can tell me the reason too? Thanks barotas reason; cheap got -1 sd so u can use gerust, the hp regen autoskill is helpful in some cases, u get a bit of magic pierce(trusty old barotas xD) tellas reason; , -1sd for gerust, all magic boost , biggest reason = mpcost cut by lvl 9hell zero needs aton of -mpc if ur going solo and want to spam 3+ zero in one assault) its also cheaper than universe universe: reason: spellburst, hidden matk up based on lvl , cast defense and melee and magic resist (im personally using this one and can only spam 3 zeros b4 my mp runs out+ i have to use a cheltil as well to counter the +1 sd on gerust,,well xals on weap is up to u though^^0 u might need to gather around 200m for this one ^^ sauro stick l4 : reasons: magic pierce boost, a bit of -mpc , -cast, and some flat stat boost on int and dex,,wont recommend this rod for various reasons(barotas would still be better) extra: Sauro Stick L5 [Canes] Effect: ATK: 296-298 DEF: 3 MATK +20% magic pierce +12% Cast time -19% INT +10 DEX +10 MP cost -12% all magic +2% hmm tellas would be better xD or maybe spellbook 4 Spell Book Vol. 4 [Canes]. Effect: ATK: 270 MATK +10% INT +12 DEX +8 Neutral magic +20% Cast time -25%. if it got released ^^ better if 2s xD well this are only based on my own opinions its up to u if u believe them or not ^^ oh all the reasons i stated is when u got zero...but if u still dont have zero then tellas will top it all ^^
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Post by Zensui_X on Apr 17, 2017 14:49:26 GMT
As for zero,
Univ has the highest dmg
you forgot Megistus Rod, this one is in 2nd Rank (plus its hell cheaper than Univ)
Tellas is also a better choice for more -mpc, thus more zero to cast during the assault buff span
Yeah Aizensou, is correct this one falls the lowest but, its magic pierce can be promising if use on high mdef mobs, but still unnoticeable difference
Sauro Stick L4, as for me, this one is out of the league, its proficiency falls on cast time, cast time is not necessary for zero
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Post by onizuka on Apr 19, 2017 4:35:38 GMT
Why everyone more chosee universe? Looks like is stat no much different from FBOOK4 And how to calculation matk up by lv on universe?
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Post by bikini on Apr 19, 2017 21:07:37 GMT
for full pt (mins-bish) uni gerust got alot advantage, for solo tellas good and can use for eq too(specially when low lv)
Idk damage for spellbook4 vs uni, but should be very pair
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Post by commenter on Aug 27, 2017 7:46:22 GMT
Still not sure why Universe is better than Barotas
Universe II: MATK +16%, Hate rise +10%, Spell burst rate +7%, Cast defense +12%, Melee and Magic R +6%, Heal Reward +5% (hidden correction: Lv min MATK increase)
Barotas: Small Magic pierce up by Lv if Lv > 299. HP regen chance by defense, MATK +20%, Skill delay -1 sec (hidden performance: during defense, probability of HP recovery for 10 sec, Heal = (Lv +45) × 11 times)
does the "Lv min matk increse" make up for the extra matk% and skill delay? how exactly does it work/what's the formula for it?
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Post by Zensui_X on Aug 27, 2017 8:50:25 GMT
Still not sure why Universe is better than BarotasUniverse II:MATK +16%, Hate rise +10%, Spell burst rate +7%, Cast defense +12%, Melee and Magic R +6%, Heal Reward +5% (hidden correction: Lv min MATK increase) Barotas: Small Magic pierce up by Lv if Lv > 299. HP regen chance by defense, MATK +20%, Skill delay -1 sec (hidden performance: during defense, probability of HP recovery for 10 sec, Heal = (Lv +45) × 11 times)
does the "Lv min matk increse" make up for the extra matk% and skill delay? how exactly does it work/what's the formula for it? the "Matk up by lvl" hidden stat of univ, I think it is added on the Base Matk, where whatever your current level is, it is added to your Matk times the Total Matk+x% of all your gears for more reference see this; irunaonline.boards.net/thread/25241/tellas-universe?page=1#post-200629
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Post by Zensui_X on Aug 27, 2017 8:57:06 GMT
Barotas Magic Pierce is so low, I assume the formula for it is Lvl/100 where at lv350 you only have +3% Magic Pierce. Well in any case, someone already Test Black Wizard Staff vs Barotas and BWS wins in terms of dmg output it deals higher. Aside from that I already did test Tellas vs Barotas at lvl 200ish and Tellas deals higher.
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Post by Zensui_X on Aug 27, 2017 9:02:29 GMT
Another additional info, nic123 test Tellas vs Univ, with Mins and Bish buffs, Tellas deals higher.
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Post by nic123 on Aug 27, 2017 17:15:53 GMT
Another additional info, nic123 test Tellas vs Univ, with Mins and Bish buffs, Tellas deals higher. Nah, it depends on the boss If its a low def boss tellas does a bit more If boss has mid-high univ does more For now sbook 2s does the more than max sr uni
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Post by commenter on Aug 28, 2017 9:03:25 GMT
Still not sure why Universe is better than BarotasUniverse II:MATK +16%, Hate rise +10%, Spell burst rate +7%, Cast defense +12%, Melee and Magic R +6%, Heal Reward +5% (hidden correction: Lv min MATK increase) Barotas: Small Magic pierce up by Lv if Lv > 299. HP regen chance by defense, MATK +20%, Skill delay -1 sec (hidden performance: during defense, probability of HP recovery for 10 sec, Heal = (Lv +45) × 11 times)
does the "Lv min matk increse" make up for the extra matk% and skill delay? how exactly does it work/what's the formula for it? the "Matk up by lvl" hidden stat of univ, I think it is added on the Base Matk, where whatever your current level is, it is added to your Matk times the Total Matk+x% of all your gears for more reference see this; irunaonline.boards.net/thread/25241/tellas-universe?page=1#post-200629that does sound like a bigger difference now @u@ thanks
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Post by commenter on Aug 28, 2017 9:05:24 GMT
Barotas Magic Pierce is so low, I assume the formula for it is Lvl/100 where at lv350 you only have +3% Magic Pierce. Well in any case, someone already Test Black Wizard Staff vs Barotas and BWS wins in terms of dmg output it deals higher. Aside from that I already did test Tellas vs Barotas at lvl 200ish and Tellas deals higher. then I'll look into BWS too
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♪Sumire
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Post by ♪Sumire on Aug 28, 2017 10:50:20 GMT
now I have a different viewpoint for uni vs tellas 2
tellas 2 @301 +9 gerust vs uni @280 +9 gerust in terms of solo and pt farm each got their pros and cons
solo farm boss tellas2 quick succession of zeros multiple shots up to 3 if u preferred dmg more than mpcost after 3 shots still got a lot of mp to spare and can be used with imperial + grand magic
universe eats away at ur mp with just 3 shots needs a cheltil to make it work if ur using strug and taenia (still slower compare to tellas) huge boost on matk when ur lvl 320+ can be good for soloing bosses when paired with resist set boost on SB rate with hw that didnt cap crt
full pt farming tellas 2 with the 3 zero setup u can add another 2 and can even use spellboost and can also be great when using imperial
universe matk beast mode paired with spellboost with Bish quick and mins dream can cast zero as fast as the unbuffed tellas 2 - up to 4 if ur quick enough
universe outweighs tellas 2 on benefits on farming bosses
but I feel more confident and relaxed with tellas2 so its just a personal preference
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Post by nic123 on Aug 28, 2017 17:32:26 GMT
now I have a different viewpoint for uni vs tellas 2 tellas 2 @301 +9 gerust vs uni @280 +9 gerust in terms of solo and pt farm each got their pros and cons solo farm boss tellas2 quick succession of zeros multiple shots up to 3 if u preferred dmg more than mpcost after 3 shots still got a lot of mp to spare and can be used with imperial + grand magic universe eats away at ur mp with just 3 shots needs a cheltil to make it work if ur using strug and taenia (still slower compare to tellas) huge boost on matk when ur lvl 320+ can be good for soloing bosses when paired with resist set boost on SB rate with hw that didnt cap crt full pt farming tellas 2 with the 3 zero setup u can add another 2 and can even use spellboost and can also be great when using imperial universe matk beast mode paired with spellboost with Bish quick and mins dream can cast zero as fast as the unbuffed tellas 2 - up to 4 if ur quick enough universe outweighs tellas 2 on benefits on farming bosses but I feel more confident and relaxed with tellas2 so its just a personal preference I would definitely say uni is a party rod, Tellas got the mpc, the delay all that goodstuff. When soloing i use a resist set with 20k mp for bandersnatch, different al page to And swap to low mp, mpc set which is tellas set for 0 ray, spam 3 700-750k 0 rays and swap back to bander set with around 600mp to spare. In parties i use sbook but if u dont have a 2s, uni wud be best. In depth for other hws: My resist set has 1 ratecut 5 and 4 fluency abis, i enter boss, drain, blizzzard, thunder bolt Swap phrase, zero ray, zero ray, zero ray Repeat till boss dies. Works great for veleno, parazaia(3shot), shelk (need mp pots), jusal, bqsically bosses of that calibur that hit hard You want to avoid bosses who remove buffs, shelk is an exception, hes handleable
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