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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 6:53:05 GMT
Heya everyone o.o/ EwPeople here. Magic Ninja with love for the not-so-common builds owo. I'd like to ask your opinion regarding a speed set for HW.
First of all, I'm nub at HW so expect a lot of nub stuff here XD. What I'm trying to achieve here is getting the fastest cast + fastest delay set for "all" skills, mixed with MATK, naturally. Below is a set of currently released items that I 'think' is best for achieving my goal.
Mortal Dagger (Fiona) Hulam Nemes re up (Medona) Clematis (Ushilth) Mage Ring (Agira Jarma)
Full Fluency
6 blue green + 2 blue lines apostolia
Jusal Gatekeeper Sauro II Maelriel Cheltil
Stat Highlight Total: MATK+103% Cast Time-135% Skill Delay-6.4 seconds
Questions: 1) How much -sd does a Lv300+ HW need? 2) Should I replace Hulam Nemes with Emido/Altoshear for -cast time instead? 3) Would Mikmafy/Nuit/Nuitram/Flora be good to put somewhere in the set?
That's all for now o.o/ I'd like to get opinions from different people and possibly share your own speed set and experience with it. Thanks in advance~!
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Post by Zensui_X on Mar 23, 2017 8:19:29 GMT
That set would do,
with Max Dex stat and Jusal, Maelriel, Cheltil, Sauro2 on al set and clematis, you already have a minimum delay
considering cast time on arm, weap and spec you'll be able to have the minimum cast time
to check, I believe mirage has the longest delay and imperial has the longest cast time, if the time spent casting those are same with others, perhaps you have achieve the minimum casting and delay whereas 1sec delay and 1sec cast time, except the other skills that can be instantly cast (i.e. Zero Ray, Thunderbolt, etc.),
Note: Grigori's delay can never be reduced (fix 10sec)
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Post by Zensui_X on Mar 23, 2017 8:41:10 GMT
And to answer your questions, 1. I think minimum delay requires around 4sec 2. Replace Nemes, as stated on no.1, you wont have that much problem on delay but on cast time 3. Yes, especially Mikmafy, another problem might arise when you are considering having a faster cast time, and that is mp cost Fast Action leads to -Faster burning of MP -Incompetent Damage Here's my set Tellas Dunk Mpc5 Emido Reup Mold Mpc5 Clematis Ush Flu5 Acc Mpc5 Spell Ring Mikmafy Mpc5 Jusal, Maelriel, Cheltil, Sauro2, Leviam with this set, delay is already at minimum Cast time, Blizzard is at minimum but Meteor is longer i think about 0.4-0.6sec? and Imperial is longer by 1sec My Dex is at 428 Im using that set when im farming mobs, and collecting materials for my prod, as what I have said damage is incompetent, sometimes when im farming mobs with greater pool of hp im still using spell boost just to maximize my damage and be able to 1hit them, Mpc is heavily needed to consider when making such speed set but with mortal dagger I think it can cover your mp and its auto might play a vital role, problem is with that set you have a poor procrate for autoskill Might as well, check this thread for other possible option; irunaonline.boards.net/thread/26437/high-wizard-equipment-guide
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 9:25:31 GMT
Thanks Zensui_X o.o/ I did check out the thread, but since the sets are for different purposes, I decided to make a thread that would complete what I want to achieve. Mixing and matching can be a PITA XD
EDIT: Would a full Mikmafy setup be recommended to replace the armor with Struggler?
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Post by bikini on Mar 23, 2017 9:50:53 GMT
hw lv 300 no need cast and very low delay with 256 dex need about -2'5, with 315dex u need -1'2, more dex reduce more.
For other great magic maxium u need is -3 delay for thor -2.5 eq -1,5blizz, drain ect, meteor and imperial no delay. For cast and damage is sage up ushil(beter for element)or taenia ushil Tellas gerust damage
Incase u want super speed use caduceus nuitram fluency instead tellas gerust
the al u use are fore zero not element, rita, theru2/rua2
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 10:08:24 GMT
bikini what you said has one conflict o.o. You said that Lv300 HW don't need cast anymore, but towards the end you said that I should use Caduceus Nuitram Fluency for super speed. So I need -cast after all? This is confusing XD
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Post by Zensui_X on Mar 23, 2017 10:38:44 GMT
Thanks Zensui_X o.o/ I did check out the thread, but since the sets are for different purposes, I decided to make a thread that would complete what I want to achieve. Mixing and matching can be a PITA XD
EDIT: Would a full Mikmafy setup be recommended to replace the armor with Struggler? It could be, struggler? I suggest emido, since it has a great cast time plus its autoskill, struggler if you want more damage
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Post by o² on Mar 25, 2017 15:49:14 GMT
you dont need cast when you're lv300 because zero ray. but before zero ray, to make a speed set, you would need a caduceus II nuit. that would give you -50% cast time. also -6 sd is too much. all my skills go down quick with just -3 sd. focus more on matk and cast time. your -sd should be good around -3 to -4. change your hulam nemes to struggler up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 4:55:05 GMT
you dont need cast when you're lv300 because zero ray. but before zero ray, to make a speed set, you would need a caduceus II nuit. that would give you -50% cast time. also -6 sd is too much. all my skills go down quick with just -3 sd. focus more on matk and cast time. your -sd should be good around -3 to -4. change your hulam nemes to struggler up. So to sum it up, I only need -50% cast time and -3 to -4 sec sd?
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Post by o² on Mar 29, 2017 16:21:52 GMT
you dont need cast when you're lv300 because zero ray. but before zero ray, to make a speed set, you would need a caduceus II nuit. that would give you -50% cast time. also -6 sd is too much. all my skills go down quick with just -3 sd. focus more on matk and cast time. your -sd should be good around -3 to -4. change your hulam nemes to struggler up. So to sum it up, I only need -50% cast time and -3 to -4 sec sd?3 - 4 sd is good enough. you will need more -cast time %. -50% is big from caduceus 2 nuit. get nuit or flora xtals. they give good -cast time %. as for add, there's montol colliet, fourchette up, or miselatis up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 16:43:28 GMT
o² how much -cast time would I need to get the minimum for all skills?
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Nyx
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Post by Nyx on Apr 1, 2017 4:58:38 GMT
o² how much -cast time would I need to get the minimum for all skills? if I am not mistaken, you need something around -140% cast time for 1sec imperial and meteor cast without dex? Not sure though
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 7:44:40 GMT
o² how much -cast time would I need to get the minimum for all skills? if I am not mistaken, you need something around -140% cast time for 1sec imperial and meteor cast without dex? Not sure though It is a clue ouo thanks
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Nyx
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Post by Nyx on May 26, 2017 17:06:13 GMT
if I am not mistaken, you need something around -140% cast time for 1sec imperial and meteor cast without dex? Not sure though It is a clue ouo thanks
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Post by Tilt*Madara on May 27, 2017 0:15:20 GMT
And to answer your questions, 1. I think minimum delay requires around 4sec 2. Replace Nemes, as stated on no.1, you wont have that much problem on delay but on cast time 3. Yes, especially Mikmafy, another problem might arise when you are considering having a faster cast time, and that is mp cost Fast Action leads to -Faster burning of MP -Incompetent Damage Here's my set Tellas Dunk Mpc5 Emido Reup Mold Mpc5 Clematis Ush Flu5 Acc Mpc5 Spell Ring Mikmafy Mpc5 Jusal, Maelriel, Cheltil, Sauro2, Leviam with this set, delay is already at minimum Cast time, Blizzard is at minimum but Meteor is longer i think about 0.4-0.6sec? and Imperial is longer by 1sec My Dex is at 428 Im using that set when im farming mobs, and collecting materials for my prod, as what I have said damage is incompetent, sometimes when im farming mobs with greater pool of hp im still using spell boost just to maximize my damage and be able to 1hit them, Mpc is heavily needed to consider when making such speed set but with mortal dagger I think it can cover your mp and its auto might play a vital role, problem is with that set you have a poor procrate for autoskill Might as well, check this thread for other possible option; irunaonline.boards.net/thread/26437/high-wizard-equipment-guideThis quote isnt exactly to critique your post, just pointing out that multiple Mpc5 wont work. Using the same lvl same type abilities dont stack. Well anything over Lv.1 doesnt stack. I can point you to a few threads and even make a video test for you if needed. Anyways if youre going to be casting, then im assuming youll only be using the great magics/imperial. So you only need 2.5sec delay to cover all of those. Use a fluency 1/2/3/4/5 (MP cost +15% total) Id say something like Caduces 3/Gerust Altoshear 4 or struggler/mendona Clematis 2/ dunk 2 mage ring/agira Didnt include mage kings ring since Idk if its even out yet Sauro2 Cheltil Maelrel Totals: Matk+116% or 109%+700with strugg up Skill Delay -2.5 Cast time - 176% or -141% with strugg up MP cost -5% if over lvl 300 lots more but thats the main stuff. Ibdidnt add the other ais so those are not complete.
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