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Post by crazybrker on Jul 23, 2014 8:52:12 GMT
Only for Enchant Weapon skill
Normally a hit triggers an autoskill. But Enchant triggers on a swing, if it triggers then the hit also connects and more possible skills fire off.
So: Enchant > Hit > Autoskills (Just my theory)
Accuracy with enchant off ~10% Accuracy with enchant on 80+%
I'll get some solid numbers after my video =)
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Post by Umaru-chan on Jul 23, 2014 9:42:21 GMT
Only for Enchant Weapon skill Normally a hit triggers an autoskill. But Enchant triggers on a swing, if it triggers then the hit also connects and more possible skills fire off. So: Enchant > Hit > Autoskills (Just my theory) Accuracy with enchant off ~10% Accuracy with enchant on 80+% I'll get some solid numbers after my video =) So for example, when using a claw which swings left and right, does it mean that swinging motion of claw triggers more than that of the sword? Im confused hehehe
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 9:54:25 GMT
you must hit in order to trigger things. no, claw's 2-handed swing will only possible to trigger once. if you miss a lot, you wont trigger anything. try using a low accuracy weapon and see how awful your trigger rate will be. i have a crt set and it triggers more than normal simply because crt never miss.
Q: but why use dex instead of crt? A: because you need to drain instantly. mob is not gonna wait for your drain to end. there's a new buff for enchanter that switches dex to crt & str so if you go crt earlier, you wont benefit this skill at all.
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Post by crazybrker on Jul 23, 2014 10:06:56 GMT
That would be nice, but no. The left then right motion of the claw counts as 1 swing. If you notice, you will always hit with both or miss both. The animation just breaks it up to look like 2 actions, but it is mechanically just 1 swing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 10:18:53 GMT
its best to try it yourself. get a very cheap claw, turn on your battle log and start hitting things with normal attack. with max agi, you might hit around 400 with your left hand, 400 with your right hand. turns out your battle log only register the hit as a single hit of 800 damage (400+400). side note: i actually wonder how claw possibly deal odd number damage while the damage is symmetric so it should be an even number.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 23, 2014 11:24:44 GMT
its best to try it yourself. get a very cheap claw, turn on your battle log and start hitting things with normal attack. with max agi, you might hit around 400 with your left hand, 400 with your right hand. turns out your battle log only register the hit as a single hit of 800 damage (400+400). side note: i actually wonder how claw possibly deal odd number damage while the damage is symmetric so it should be an even number. If you hit 9 damage It will show as a 4 and a 5.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 11:26:59 GMT
its best to try it yourself. get a very cheap claw, turn on your battle log and start hitting things with normal attack. with max agi, you might hit around 400 with your left hand, 400 with your right hand. turns out your battle log only register the hit as a single hit of 800 damage (400+400). side note: i actually wonder how claw possibly deal odd number damage while the damage is symmetric so it should be an even number. If you hit 9 damage It will show as a 4 and a 5. that's the problem. how exactly right hand & left hand differs? it happens but i still can't think of any logic.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 23, 2014 11:45:11 GMT
If you hit 9 damage It will show as a 4 and a 5. that's the problem. how exactly right hand & left hand differs? it happens but i still can't think of any logic. I dunno. LoL. anyway It doesnt matter because It Is just for cosmetics.
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Post by crazybrker on Jul 23, 2014 12:02:18 GMT
Depends if your char is left or right handed ^^
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 24, 2014 2:22:32 GMT
I think autoskill goes up with lvl. Around lvl 160-180 your autoskill gets pretty stable. Hmm, I don't have any +autoskill gear and my stuff triggers pretty regularly. Gratz on your amulet! Check out the Staff enchanter thread for the best info for your build. But I would imagine I would do: INT>AGI>DEX Sword Amu + Gerust + Gerust Exelis Up + Shojo Aulis Gale + FG Magic Amp + Meza Wuhahahahahaha. But dont worry you have tons of options. Play around with it and see what you like any idea how much magic amp slot goes for? Also lotus seed slot. Sorry off topic
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Post by crazybrker on Jul 24, 2014 5:01:25 GMT
Magic Amp have never heard of a slot existing... Priceless
Lotus Seed ~100m+ Also quite rare as there is no one farming them like they do Rose rings. Rare but easier to get than magic amp.
I killed 950+ Snowmen for that magic amp and still haven't got a NS... So yea, crappy drop rate.
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Post by crazybrker on Jul 25, 2014 11:26:43 GMT
Only for Enchant Weapon skill Normally a hit triggers an autoskill. But Enchant triggers on a swing, if it triggers then the hit also connects and more possible skills fire off. So: Enchant > Hit > Autoskills (Just my theory) Accuracy with enchant off ~10% Accuracy with enchant on 80+% I'll get some solid numbers after my video =) All lies, enchant brings it up my accuracy a little bit, but not much...
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Post by Tyranull on Jul 26, 2014 1:00:55 GMT
I think the accuracy added is hidden from stats, since when I buff I don't see any change of accuracy on my stats under hit. But since it helps me out, I don't question it much.
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Post by tasm on Jul 27, 2014 18:31:44 GMT
you must hit in order to trigger things. no, claw's 2-handed swing will only possible to trigger once. if you miss a lot, you wont trigger anything. try using a low accuracy weapon and see how awful your trigger rate will be. i have a crt set and it triggers more than normal simply because crt never miss. Q: but why use dex instead of crt? A: because you need to drain instantly. mob is not gonna wait for your drain to end. there's a new buff for enchanter that switches dex to crt & str so if you go crt earlier, you wont benefit this skill at all. Is there seriously this kinda buff? o.o ...Talk about a ruiner... They're killing any and every chqnce of a unique build. lol. I had hoped with magic blade, I could be the loner building auto atk instead..... Any proof of this skill? As for the ontopic post: Autoskill % trigger rates are irregular. There is a big IF when the extend skill comes as to whether it's guaranteed to trigger on every hit or if equipment wth autoskills are also affected. Otherwise, you can equip autoskill % equipment to increase the rate. And it gets pretty well with hitting usually every hit at 25-30%. Most of enchanters dmg when auto attack lies in the weapon skills / addtional attack chances. If it could stabilize, dps would multiply for enchanters. But there isn't any guarantee that we'll get such a thing. ps: if that skill exists, it's going to force every single enchanter in game to use the same stat build e.e... int/dex/vit or int/dex/agi. There won't be any questioning like before is what I mean.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 20:54:17 GMT
you must hit in order to trigger things. no, claw's 2-handed swing will only possible to trigger once. if you miss a lot, you wont trigger anything. try using a low accuracy weapon and see how awful your trigger rate will be. i have a crt set and it triggers more than normal simply because crt never miss. Q: but why use dex instead of crt? A: because you need to drain instantly. mob is not gonna wait for your drain to end. there's a new buff for enchanter that switches dex to crt & str so if you go crt earlier, you wont benefit this skill at all. Is there seriously this kinda buff? o.o ...Talk about a ruiner... They're killing any and every chqnce of a unique build. lol. I had hoped with magic blade, I could be the loner building auto atk instead..... Any proof of this skill? As for the ontopic post: Autoskill % trigger rates are irregular. There is a big IF when the extend skill comes as to whether it's guaranteed to trigger on every hit or if equipment wth autoskills are also affected. Otherwise, you can equip autoskill % equipment to increase the rate. And it gets pretty well with hitting usually every hit at 25-30%. Most of enchanters dmg when auto attack lies in the weapon skills / addtional attack chances. If it could stabilize, dps would multiply for enchanters. But there isn't any guarantee that we'll get such a thing. ps: if that skill exists, it's going to force every single enchanter in game to use the same stat build e.e... int/dex/vit or int/dex/agi. There won't be any questioning like before is what I mean. never seen it in action. but that's the description. increase str & crt with the expense of dex, 15 min buff, consume 8MP. magic blade & power enhancement is what's new to enchanter. the rest will be the same so we "might" get extend & cadal alexio. if its still not here, it can either be or never be here. i also can't tell for sure if power enhancement will work with magic sword/bow because unlike warcry which increase strength, this buff only mention str. which might mean it increase the actual str stat itself. a downside for the msword/mbow users. msword/mbow atk increases by int & dex. use this buff and they lose their dex but won't benefit str either while staff user wont bother as dex is not part of staff's atk while str give a whooping 3 atk per point. this buff might equalize msword/mbow & staff atk.
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