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Post by makemoola on May 14, 2014 16:26:36 GMT
Im going for nail ninja wich is Agi,crt,str ninja
My agi is 100 str and crt 10 wich should be my main focus people say agi is top priority then crt str pretty useless is this correct?
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Post by phamous on May 14, 2014 16:59:43 GMT
You want to increase your agility until u get max attack speed for nail weapons which is 340. After that increase your crit to at least 150 so your attacks won't miss and you will do critical attacks most of the time. After at least 150 crit go back and max your agility followed by maxing your crit. After both Agi and crit are maxed then start adding str.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2014 17:26:04 GMT
Agi to 144 Crt to 210 (crit 70% of the time, If you wear a Schwartz then 80%)
after that
Back to agi till max or continue adding CRT to 240
You dont really need to max CRT, as it is only a 85% crt rate maxed and 256 crt rate is only 90%. Use the extra 16 points to add to strength.
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Post by phamous on May 14, 2014 23:30:51 GMT
If your a ninja then chances are you will be using koda upgraded which adds melee up by crit which means 256 crit is 256 extra damage also the more crit you have the more crit damage you have which is why it is suggested to max crit
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2014 0:51:31 GMT
Well my reasoning for not maxing crt is
16crt=16 extra damage from koda 16str=32 exrra damage from koda
But just my own op.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on May 15, 2014 1:18:57 GMT
210 CRT is 75% Rate + Schwartz = 85% 240 CRT is 85% Rate + Schwartz = 95% You would want to have 95% Rate for your DPS.
Warrior CRT users max their CRT because they want to max their Double Attack Proc and/or be able to use -crit rate xtals/gears which are usually better than non-penalty gears. Or they might want to use different armors that do not have +crit rate and still maintain their hit rate.
Since you don't have double attack and you will probably use schwartz permanently due to the -HP, you might want to consider having less CRT.
If you max your CRT, you get 0.5% extra crit damage per 1 CRT and nothing more (*based on my understanding of the crit dmg formula from JP wiki).
Because the crit rate is capped at 95% (which you will obtain with less CRT) and you don't have double attack.
Of course, if you can't hit 95% (you use exelis up instead of schwartz for example), then you should max your CRT.
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*CRT damage formula
CRT damage = White Dmg x (1.5 + CRT / 200) x (1 + skill + chrysta + equipment correction) + (Physical Power/Melee *has some notes that I don't understand)
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Post by Senpai on May 15, 2014 1:20:27 GMT
crt affects damage multiplier from critical hits. it's a max, or at least 250 on my books. basically go max aspd (343 around 140-144 agi), get crit till you're confortable with your crit rate, max agi, get to like 250 crt, start adding str.
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Post by phamous on May 15, 2014 10:52:12 GMT
Lets not forget that almost every ninja uses kodachi upgraded which gives melee up by crit so maxing crit equals more melee damage
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on May 15, 2014 23:09:22 GMT
Well yeah but the formula also suggests that you get 1dmg per melee which is unaffected by multipliers (not even skill multipliers) so it can be debatable whether it brings value. You can do 50k dmg skill and it only makes it 50.001k. A point in str or agi will give 2atk which is affected by +atk% and crt dmg multiplier + skills and gear multipliers
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2014 13:04:24 GMT
at a certain point youll be able max 2 stats (stick to the 2 stats your going for)...max whichever 2 you are going for, then after u maxed those 2 go for the 3rd...at an even farther point youll be able to max 3 stats, so it doesnt matter what u max now, just make a reasonable choice
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