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Post by mohlssonn on Jun 17, 2016 20:25:10 GMT
I'm going to write down the sets that think are viable and that I can think of. First Lets just establish that using 5x Quick Cool level 1 abilities does stack. You'd get -25% atk compared to the -15% atk that you get when you use 1 of each level. So for budget builds, just use this instead. Agi/crt/strKoda *Pulis Exelis3 *Dorry Barbarotita up *Raton Argent ring Maelriel Chelti Full Quick cool abilities A lower budget on this would be : Stake knuckle *Ganei Exe3 *magonza Barbarotita up *vida Argent ring Chelti Maelriel This is only -7,5sec skill delay. Youd prolly want Pulis on knuckle instead INT/STR/CRT Build (Prolly gonna be the most viable when new skills are released, tho switching str to Dex to get more Matk) : Diamante (-1sec) *Pulis (0.5sec) Exelis 3 (-1.5sec) * Ganei Monty Beret (-1sec) *Raton Ring of rush (Noid if slot) Chelti Full Q.cool abilities DEX/STR/CRTRight, so I decided to reroll into normal dex bow build and this is what has been given me the most damage out of all builds I tried so far: Sauro Shooter L4 (-1.5sec) *Ganei Exelis 3 (-1.5sec) * Ganei Monty Beret (-1sec) *Raton Adamantite Arrow *Noid This with full Q.Cool set gives me -7sec, so I only use Chelti for AI xtals to reach -8sec. Thanks to the new Monty Beret you'll get 2.75 atk per dex, combo it with AAS and that's 3,1atk per str which is by far the most atk you'll get from stats as far as I know. I'm landing on just around 4.2k atk. To reach 600 evasion i use full green AI and added some points into GR Anyone wanna share their build?  |
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Post by hatsune on Jun 17, 2016 21:48:49 GMT
Use qc on accesorie too, it will add -0,6s xD
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Post by Umaru-chan on Jun 18, 2016 8:37:59 GMT
Same level abilities do not stack hehe skill delay set was never budget friendly but definitely worth the price if used correctly ^^
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Post by mohlssonn on Jun 18, 2016 9:55:31 GMT
Same level abilities do not stack hehe skill delay set was never budget friendly but definitely worth the price if used correctly ^^ Im pretty confident using all lvl 1 does work, Believe ive seen a video om Youtube with Someone using a full q.c set and Having it work edit: In description it says all qc1 abilities Use qc on accesorie too, it will add -0,6s xD Did not know that Thanks alot |
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Post by Ryukengan on Jun 18, 2016 11:30:24 GMT
@mohlsson I would recommend you to swap out Koda for Cedore, the raw damage is unparalleled. Also try out several Pratzen up with 15% elemental xtals like Captain Beelzem and so on. Pratzen up will be better for a while until Barbarotita reup gets released.
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Post by Umaru-chan on Jun 18, 2016 11:47:14 GMT
Same level abilities do not stack hehe skill delay set was never budget friendly but definitely worth the price if used correctly ^^ Im pretty confident using all lvl 1 does work, Believe ive seen a video om Youtube with Someone using a full q.c set and Having it work edit: In description it says all qc1 abilities Use qc on accesorie too, it will add -0,6s xD Did not know that Thanks alot Hmm thats odd hehe 100% sure they dont stack XD set up should be same as yours for it to work according to famine and other pros hehe but anyway regardless its not budget friendly haha tho as i said its awesome if used correctly. Also goodjob on your equips i wish you can get an argent ring slot for more dps XD i considered making Regular bow DoC spam before but sadly im already retired haha |
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Post by mohlssonn on Jun 18, 2016 12:14:10 GMT
Im pretty confident using all lvl 1 does work, Believe ive seen a video om Youtube with Someone using a full q.c set and Having it work edit: In description it says all qc1 abilities Did not know that Thanks alot Hmm thats odd hehe 100% sure they dont stack XD set up should be same as yours for it to work according to famine and other pros hehe but anyway regardless its not budget friendly haha tho as i said its awesome if used correctly. Also goodjob on your equips i wish you can get an argent ring slot for more dps XD i considered making Regular bow DoC spam before but sadly im already retired haha Can confirm that 5x q.cool lvl 1 does actually work, they does not nullify each other, just gave it a try @mohlsson I would recommend you to swap out Koda for Cedore, the raw damage is unparalleled. Also try out several Pratzen up with 15% elemental xtals like Captain Beelzem and so on. Pratzen up will be better for a while until Barbarotita reup gets released. Youre right pratzen will be a lil better, thanks Cedore? Would it be better than koda 2s? Cuz i Would Need to skip ganei and go for pulis and that menas adding a ganei to exelis instead of dorry |
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Post by Umaru-chan on Jun 18, 2016 13:49:59 GMT
Hmm thats odd hehe 100% sure they dont stack XD set up should be same as yours for it to work according to famine and other pros hehe but anyway regardless its not budget friendly haha tho as i said its awesome if used correctly. Also goodjob on your equips i wish you can get an argent ring slot for more dps XD i considered making Regular bow DoC spam before but sadly im already retired haha Can confirm that 5x q.cool lvl 1 does actually work, they does not nullify each other, just gave it a try @mohlsson I would recommend you to swap out Koda for Cedore, the raw damage is unparalleled. Also try out several Pratzen up with 15% elemental xtals like Captain Beelzem and so on. Pratzen up will be better for a while until Barbarotita reup gets released. Youre right pratzen will be a lil better, thanks Cedore? Would it be better than koda 2s? Cuz i Would Need to skip ganei and go for pulis and that menas adding a ganei to exelis instead of dorry Sadly i cant haha im not playing anymore XD but ill believe you hehe since i havent used much delay gear on my ench XD |
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Post by miyaluna on Jun 19, 2016 4:41:42 GMT
I'm kinda confused. So it's a bad idea to have all qc lv.5 then?
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Post by hatsune on Jun 19, 2016 6:17:35 GMT
I'm kinda confused. So it's a bad idea to have all qc lv.5 then? Isnt a bad idea, but a waste of money xD When u use 2 or more lv5, the repeated will decrease 1 lv, basically full lv5 = lv5+lv4+lv3+lv2+lv1 and not lv5+lv5+... |
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Post by bravebor on Jun 19, 2016 6:19:40 GMT
I'm kinda confused. So it's a bad idea to have all qc lv.5 then? -_-# For lvl1 qc is -5%atk so to have all lvl1 would be -25%atk which is mondo bad. To have all lv5(did you even look at how to abi thread here?) is pointless as it will not be all lv5(which has already been said) but will be scaled down to lv5-lv1 so the best thing to do if you really want this is to buy or build up yourself lv1-lv5 |
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Post by mohlssonn on Jun 19, 2016 7:02:10 GMT
I'm kinda confused. So it's a bad idea to have all qc lv.5 then? Yes, for the best result, well the same result as having all lvl 5 but alot cheaper is to have 1 of each lvl. Having 2 lvl 5 will make them work as a lvl 5 and lvl 4. Having 5 lvl 5 will be the same as having 1,2,3,4 and 5. Having 5 lvl 1 will be... what it is since that wont cancel out the effect of eachother. Made sense ? The issue with having 5 quick cool is that you'd get -25% atk/matk compared to -15% with 1 of each level. So to be honest, you'd lose 10% atk but it'd cost you like 1/10 of getting 1-5 set |
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Post by miyaluna on Jun 19, 2016 8:18:44 GMT
I'm kinda confused. So it's a bad idea to have all qc lv.5 then? Yes, for the best result, well the same result as having all lvl 5 but alot cheaper is to have 1 of each lvl. Having 2 lvl 5 will make them work as a lvl 5 and lvl 4. Having 5 lvl 5 will be the same as having 1,2,3,4 and 5. Having 5 lvl 1 will be... what it is since that wont cancel out the effect of eachother. Made sense ? The issue with having 5 quick cool is that you'd get -25% atk/matk compared to -15% with 1 of each level. So to be honest, you'd lose 10% atk but it'd cost you like 1/10 of getting 1-5 set Alright alright. I think I'm getting it xD. So best option is to go 5,4,3,2,1( I think). One more question would be does CRT affect doc dmg output? Not sure |
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Post by Umaru-chan on Jun 19, 2016 12:00:29 GMT
Yes, for the best result, well the same result as having all lvl 5 but alot cheaper is to have 1 of each lvl. Having 2 lvl 5 will make them work as a lvl 5 and lvl 4. Having 5 lvl 5 will be the same as having 1,2,3,4 and 5. Having 5 lvl 1 will be... what it is since that wont cancel out the effect of eachother. Made sense ? The issue with having 5 quick cool is that you'd get -25% atk/matk compared to -15% with 1 of each level. So to be honest, you'd lose 10% atk but it'd cost you like 1/10 of getting 1-5 set Alright alright. I think I'm getting it xD. So best option is to go 5,4,3,2,1( I think). One more question would be does CRT affect doc dmg output? Not sure Yup crt dmg% affects it |
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Post by mohlssonn on Jun 29, 2016 16:53:05 GMT
Updated with new Normal bow set
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