Dragsbro
Community Contributor 
I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Apr 7, 2016 17:58:51 GMT
Hi all o.o)/ I summon every pally out there, bravebor, asteg, Yazmat, maximo24, and all the other pallys i don't know, sorry for that, i'm sure you all are awesome people u.u First, i have to say that paladin is the class i know the less (excluding bk and servant that i never tried) >< So correct me if anything is wrong in what i wrote, or stuff impossible because of things i don't know etc (/-\) Then... Let's suppose you are a high lvl pally (lets say 320) and have Hide attack, passive pet skill that guarantee your first hit or skill to be critical on any mob having more than 90% of its HP. So, Oath can't be critical because of stun parry... (the first stun parry would be, but who does even care about it u.u)
Then, do you think that making a build AGI STR CRT wearing special nails could avoid the hit from mobs or bosses (in order not to counter atk) and make Oath your first hit, and then, make it critical?..
In this case i couldn't even imagine the amount of the dmgs >< |
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Post by lacs on Apr 7, 2016 18:35:48 GMT
So, i thought that when casting a skill you automatically gained some hate, but I'm pretty sure that there was someone who has proc a critical oath, as it was mentioned on a thread before, the thing is, i think this person achieved it with help of a party, don't know if it's possible to solo critical oath someone
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Post by Ryukengan on Apr 7, 2016 18:43:33 GMT
From my understanding: No, you can't critical oath solo. As soon as you enter combat it doesn't work anymore, which means if you are solo you would have to lag out of combat which is very unstable and risky because you might get a status ailment and not notice it until the last second. However in party I guess you are not considered in combat until your skill (Oath), hits BUT if you get hit by any AOE attack you will be considered in combat, so hide attack Oath has very, very limited uses. I'm not sure if it's even possible to get a critical Oath but if lacs is right you can pull it off in a party only. |
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Yazmat
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Pally Lv351 | Alchy Lv318
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Post by Yazmat on Apr 7, 2016 19:05:55 GMT
Am no that great of a pally but i can answer part (not all) of your questions
Now... I have hide attack... I never managed to make it critical... why? I don't party that much (very busy these days...) and I farm solo a lot... which confirms what others said before me... it won't work in solo... many time Oath happened to me before any stun parry procs and never was it critical... you forgot miligrito maybe he can answer your question... he has hide attack too
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Apr 8, 2016 0:14:14 GMT
Tried with duo. Other pally tanks, I cast oath. Doesn't work.
Tried with low lvl mobs so I can evade attacks. Doesn't work.
I've tried to have similar scenarios with guardian and it procs with guardian but not with oath.
Oath+Hyde is just so overpowered so I am not surprised if Asobimo thinks ahead and blocks the combo.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2016 4:40:01 GMT
Hide attack procs during your first hit or no hate or I say Neutral. From paladin only hard hit and Guardian works perfectly.
First if you dont have a party casting Oath gives you hate already cause you will be the active target... so wont work
Second, I duo with a friend but upon casting oath hate bar appears (tho 0%) it still indicates that you have hate already... so wont work.
On my testing results almost physical attacks which are instant hit takes the effect of Hide Attack.
Hard Hit
Arrow Rain 2 (From my Sin)
Guardian
These are the only skills that works from all of my characters and funny how hard hit can 1shot mobs (100KHP below) but not my pillar xS
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Apr 8, 2016 5:02:15 GMT
Hide attack procs during your first hit or no hate or I say Neutral. From paladin only hard hit and Guardian works perfectly. First if you dont have a party casting Oath gives you hate already cause you will be the active target... so wont work Second, I duo with a friend but upon casting oath hate bar appears (tho 0%) it still indicates that you have hate already... so wont work. On my testing results almost physical attacks which are instant hit takes the effect of Hide Attack. Hard Hit Arrow Rain 2 (From my Sin) Guardian These are the only skills that works from all of my characters and funny how hard hit can 1shot mobs (100KHP below) but not my pillar xS I don't have hide anymore but I remember faking my guardian so I will be the target and run around for 10secs before hitting guardian. Hyde still works this way. Hence, I think hide just plainly doesn't affect Oath. I think there is no work around. P.S. I also thought it was about hate and targets and was planning to have -100% hate gear so I can spam it, but alas, it doesn't work so I never really had a chance to build the -hate gear. |
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Dragsbro
Community Contributor
I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on May 10, 2016 11:27:18 GMT
Oh thanks all! Sorry for the late reply, had pretty much forgot about this x.x
I guess asobimo didn't want this skill to get critical then, could have been way too poerful x)
Thanks all for the answers ^^)/
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Post by lacs on May 10, 2016 23:54:00 GMT
Answer has been given :3
Lets summon tthe locking gods unto this thread
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