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Post by Variz on Feb 23, 2016 11:54:40 GMT
Hello fellow pally *-*/ Im just start make a Paladin since Knight Oath released (which my char is broken now) :3 And i wanna be a Pally Oaths type And i saw some Oath pally use Ira as their armor But in my char i have an Ultimi (which is some part of my Deleted ninja char :3) And i heard a rumor (maybe true) that this Both armor got upgrade in Ep 4 town I want to ask, (especially if you are a JP player) which armor that Worth it for Oaths? I really want to safe spina for this Armor (even if Raton+Almas for up Ultimi will kill me :3) since Ira Set scammer are too much so its really hard to find True Seller of Jbf and their price going up too :3 Making buy a piece of jbf hard as duck :3 So, Post your opinion here, Thanks before  |
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bravebor
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to slack to give a damn, yet to bored to not say anything...
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Post by bravebor on Feb 23, 2016 12:44:08 GMT
personally I'd stick with henriech up for ko as the key theme for using this skill is to survive using it. ira or ultimi up/reup are great to inflict extra dmg, but that is kinda nullified in itself when you take into account that the lower your hp, the higher the dmg you inflict. henriech is great as below 25% hp you recieve whats called dmg mitigation which basically halves the dmg you recieve. with that -25% physical R from ira, you really leave yourself at a disadvantage and would need to spend a deal more to replinish your hp unlike with using henriech up(which gives an additional amount of vit I believe as hidden)
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Post by Variz on Feb 23, 2016 13:08:10 GMT
Hello fellow pally *-*/ Im just start make a Paladin since Knight Oath released (which my char is broken now) :3 And i wanna be a Pally Oaths type And i saw some Oath pally use Ira as their armor But in my char i have an Ultimi (which is some part of my Deleted ninja char :3) And i heard a rumor (maybe true) that this Both armor got upgrade in Ep 4 town I want to ask, (especially if you are a JP player) which armor that Worth it for Oaths? I really want to safe spina for this Armor (even if Raton+Almas for up Ultimi will kill me :3) since Ira Set scammer are too much so its really hard to find True Seller of Jbf and their price going up too :3 Making buy a piece of jbf hard as duck :3 So, Post your opinion here, Thanks before Ira would be a better choice because crt dmg doesn't apply to the oath's formula, that is unless you've got hide attack, but ira would win still. Ira -melee resist is not that hurt? I heard Ultimi re up got a lot Atk% +10% or more idr If Ira Up will +% their melee resist i will stick to Ira, but still im so broken right now for Buy ira, even to buy A single Jbf, ira scammer grown up, and Jbf price will be higher |
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Post by Variz on Feb 23, 2016 13:16:29 GMT
personally I'd stick with henriech up for ko as the key theme for using this skill is to survive using it. ira or ultimi up/reup are great to inflict extra dmg, but that is kinda nullified in itself when you take into account that the lower your hp, the higher the dmg you inflict. henriech is great as below 25% hp you recieve whats called dmg mitigation which basically halves the dmg you recieve. with that -25% physical R from ira, you really leave yourself at a disadvantage and would need to spend a deal more to replinish your hp unlike with using henriech up(which gives an additional amount of vit I believe as hidden) I see, maybe i will try this, if not suited i will throw it to My Enchanter xD Im planning to use bow (some pally use bow for KO) is it still suitable? Ah yes thats what i worried about -% physic resist, it will be hurt But i hope their upgrade will add some physic resist and add more atk%, so i will stick to this armor For ultimi, maybe i will try to search their Up Material that will leave big Pain in Spina :3 (500m+ for an Upgrade, 0m if search it myself :3) |
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Yazmat
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Pally Lv351 | Alchy Lv318
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Post by Yazmat on Feb 23, 2016 14:17:47 GMT
ok lets be clear (I won't give info about useless stats for oath build), good things marked green, bad things red.
Current armors released:
Ira: ATK + 12%, magic evasion + 5%, physical resistance -25%
Ultimi UP: ATK + 3%, absolute evasion + 7%, physical power +300
Heinrich Mail UP: ATK + 10%, physical penetration + 3%, magic evasion + 5%, damage cut if HP less than 25%
So right now, best armor for ATK is Ira, but the physical resistance will hurt you when soloing, so Heinrich is better for solo
now, EP4 has 2 upgrades:
Ira UP: ATK: 20 ATK + 14% magic evasion + 7% physical resistance -25%
Ultimi REUP: ATK: 5 ATK + 12% absolute evasion + 10% physical power +600
ira gets a little more atk, but ultimi gets a huge atk boost, it even goes beyond heinrich, am not sure if the physical power + 600 will make it better than ira UP
Last, thing, EP5 upgrades:
Ira REUP: ATK: 25 ATK + 16% magic evasion + 10% physical power + 1% physical resistance -25%
Heinrich REUP: ATK + 14% physical penetration + 6% magic evasion + 8% damage cut if HP less than 25%
Ira gets more ATK than ultimi again, heinrich gets as much atk as Ira UP had in ep 4 which make it again better than ultimi reup (maybe ? ultimi has physical power+600 but henirich has physical penetration)
up to you to decide... if solo, I would stick with Heinrich, if party a lot I would go for Ira
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Post by Variz on Feb 23, 2016 15:47:14 GMT
Then, Ultimi will stored in My Storage again until it have upgrade than beat Both Ira and Heinrich :3 Im just try to make My Ultimi to be suited to my Pally xD I decide to use Heinrich>Ira>Ultimi then Thank you snake, bravebor, Yazmat for the Very Clear Information, im really appreciate it |
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Post by !Joker! on Apr 24, 2016 16:38:05 GMT
ok lets be clear (I won't give info about useless stats for oath build), good things marked green, bad things red. Current armors released: Ira: ATK + 12%, magic evasion + 5%, physical resistance -25%Ultimi UP: ATK + 3%, absolute evasion + 7%, physical power +300Heinrich Mail UP: ATK + 10%, physical penetration + 3%, magic evasion + 5%, damage cut if HP less than 25%So right now, best armor for ATK is Ira, but the physical resistance will hurt you when soloing, so Heinrich is better for solonow, EP4 has 2 upgrades:Ira UP: ATK: 20 ATK + 14% magic evasion + 7% physical resistance -25%Ultimi REUP: ATK: 5 ATK + 12% absolute evasion + 10% physical power +600ira gets a little more atk, but ultimi gets a huge atk boost, it even goes beyond heinrich, am not sure if the physical power + 600 will make it better than ira UPLast, thing, EP5 upgrades:Ira REUP: ATK: 25 ATK + 16% magic evasion + 10% physical power + 1% physical resistance -25%Heinrich REUP: ATK + 14% physical penetration + 6% magic evasion + 8% damage cut if HP less than 25%Ira gets more ATK than ultimi again, heinrich gets as much atk as Ira UP had in ep 4 which make it again better than ultimi reup (maybe ? ultimi has physical power+600 but henirich has physical penetration)
up to you to decide... if solo, I would stick with Heinrich, if party a lot I would go for IraThe crit rate +20% of ira when upg still same or remove? Coz you dnt put it there.. |
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Yazmat
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Pally Lv351 | Alchy Lv318
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Post by Yazmat on Apr 24, 2016 19:46:51 GMT
ok lets be clear (I won't give info about useless stats for oath build), good things marked green, bad things red. Current armors released: Ira: ATK + 12%, magic evasion + 5%, physical resistance -25%Ultimi UP: ATK + 3%, absolute evasion + 7%, physical power +300Heinrich Mail UP: ATK + 10%, physical penetration + 3%, magic evasion + 5%, damage cut if HP less than 25%So right now, best armor for ATK is Ira, but the physical resistance will hurt you when soloing, so Heinrich is better for solonow, EP4 has 2 upgrades:Ira UP: ATK: 20 ATK + 14% magic evasion + 7% physical resistance -25%Ultimi REUP: ATK: 5 ATK + 12% absolute evasion + 10% physical power +600ira gets a little more atk, but ultimi gets a huge atk boost, it even goes beyond heinrich, am not sure if the physical power + 600 will make it better than ira UPLast, thing, EP5 upgrades:Ira REUP: ATK: 25 ATK + 16% magic evasion + 10% physical power + 1% physical resistance -25%Heinrich REUP: ATK + 14% physical penetration + 6% magic evasion + 8% damage cut if HP less than 25%Ira gets more ATK than ultimi again, heinrich gets as much atk as Ira UP had in ep 4 which make it again better than ultimi reup (maybe ? ultimi has physical power+600 but henirich has physical penetration)
up to you to decide... if solo, I would stick with Heinrich, if party a lot I would go for IraThe crit rate +20% of ira when upg still same or remove? Coz you dnt put it there.. Did you read my first sentence? Read it again |
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