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Post by Crysta| on Feb 20, 2016 21:17:44 GMT
You can swap vio for illusion bow and spam with 9 clones.
Even better would be Sauro shooter L3, with Skill delay-1.2 seconds, atk+15% and crt damage+5%.
Sorry edit, skipped that question at the end. 90% sure Raton would trump Vida.
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Post by Cerulean on Feb 20, 2016 23:02:15 GMT
For doc since it's your normal attack crit damage that hits 9 multipul times and not as a whole, element doesn't offer as much as a atk+% would, it's like arrow rain you gain more if you increase a base and most doc spam hits 17-20k per doc clone depending on mob the atk-% from all the quick cool would be better cut with atk+% vs element +% And yeah it has a +.5 sd but Diablos2 pulis QC -.6 Tentasion (whichever) QC -2.6 Barb QC -1.6 Acc QC -.6 Cheltil -1 Maelriel -.5 D.stone QC (what I prefer) -.6 Puts you at -7.5 which is only off of max speed with 9 clones by .5 so either food for solo or pt a bish with quick and swap out that tents for ex3 and spam 9 anyways Would it not be better to permanently use exe3 QC? I think it would be more effective to spam with 8 clones and +3% atk rather than lacking the .5 of 9 clones and -6% atk. As you said it's more beneficial to increase your base atk, the -6% on tentacion might not seem like a lot but combined with 5 QC this puts you at -21% atk. in theory yeah it does sound better but in practice tenta gives more damage due to the added clone, for example let's say you do 10k per clone because it's nice and round and easy to work with, now that means you'll 8 clone doc spam for 80k now let's say tents bumps you down to 9k, so at 9 clones you'll do 81k and as your damage increases so does the difference, but like I said if you got a 240 bish it will change it and instead of barb/tenta you can use sep.arrow/exe3 I do however don't suggest diablos 2 but something like sauro shooter3/failnaught/vio reup
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Post by Cerulean on Feb 20, 2016 23:19:23 GMT
You can swap vio for illusion bow and spam with 9 clones. Even better would be Sauro shooter L3, with Skill delay-1.2 seconds, atk+15% and crt damage+5%. Sorry edit, skipped that question at the end. 90% sure Raton would trump Vida. Sauro shooter 3 is the best option I totally agree and you're right raton does beat Vida Sauro shooter 3 is just a little hard to get
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ggtalon
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Post by ggtalon on Feb 20, 2016 23:20:01 GMT
You can swap vio for illusion bow and spam with 9 clones. Even better would be Sauro shooter L3, with Skill delay-1.2 seconds, atk+15% and crt damage+5%. Sorry edit, skipped that question at the end. 90% sure Raton would trump Vida. Are L3's implemented yet? Thought that was 350 sauro. I wouldn't mind if they are, and it's been awhile since I checked.(EDIT: Nevermind they are ingame.)S.Shooter L3 does sound nice xD if only boxes were guaranteed. I'll mess around with a few bows before deciding. Found a failnaught2 (@255) in storage as well so the base atk is nice. Either way I have a couple pulis so testing after stefly at 250
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ggtalon
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Post by ggtalon on Feb 20, 2016 23:23:13 GMT
You can swap vio for illusion bow and spam with 9 clones. Even better would be Sauro shooter L3, with Skill delay-1.2 seconds, atk+15% and crt damage+5%. Sorry edit, skipped that question at the end. 90% sure Raton would trump Vida. Sauro shooter 3 is the best option I totally agree and you're right raton does beat Vida Sauro shooter 3 is just a little hard to get was really hoping I'd save the cost of raton lmao. ok sounds good though
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Post by souljacool on Feb 22, 2016 5:57:16 GMT
Hi newbie here. Just want to ask the good stats for doc spam ninja TIA.
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ggtalon
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Post by ggtalon on Feb 24, 2016 2:39:30 GMT
Hi newbie here. Just want to ask the good stats for doc spam ninja TIA. Check out the Throw Nin guide. It will be most suited Also Kimace posted his build on youtube as a DoC spam build-most others will be close and revolve around the same stats. GL
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ggtalon
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Post by ggtalon on Mar 4, 2016 1:08:22 GMT
getting levels. Will post dmg numbers on mobs and w/e bosses soon. no raton yet, so just running with vidas cause I have some. lol
running as agi/crit nail build until there is a good pool of stat points to use. (and until apos 90 for str/crit)
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Post by ggtalon on Mar 24, 2016 7:05:00 GMT
getting levels. Will post dmg numbers on mobs and w/e bosses soon. no raton yet, so just running with vidas cause I have some. lol running as agi/crit nail build until there is a good pool of stat points to use. (and until apos 90 for str/crit) 1st test was as a throw nin lvl 270. diamante+9 pulis/exe3 dorry qc5/barb up vida qc2/accessory qc1/d.stone ns qc1 the damage was 80-85k on Baum Warriors and similar to mega (ik its got +% to normal mobs but meh) w/ ignite it was 100-109k -only opinion on it is that more points and a higher lvl cap (350+) would make it worth it normal bow will be soon but I expect higher numbers
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wafu
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Post by wafu on Apr 24, 2016 17:14:33 GMT
i've been a normal bow doc spammer before this is my equips:
stat: max str, dex & crt
illusion up 2s pulis and ganei exe3 dorry if solo, ultimi up w/ bish buffs sep arrow raton thimble noid
cheltil mael valtia muscle mamonea all quick cool ability = -3 sd
dealt 200k+ on nommars
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bravebor
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Post by bravebor on Apr 24, 2016 21:10:40 GMT
Kanato this ^ is the guy you want to talk to about how well reg bow ninja can survive.
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