eiric
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315 Enchanter and still going strong!
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Post by eiric on Nov 17, 2015 4:03:06 GMT
I said before that i don't really party much outside of my alts, but still i'd like to believe im not completely useless in a party (at least no one has ever complained to me - just teased me about my lowish damage with my old build). Today i was doing my bishop's mq and reached a boss I couldnt duo (Morbelzem, coz his purple floor thingy kept killing the bishop) and decided to move to server 1 and try to get a party (after trying to solo and giving up - my bish wasnt ready for that). So here are my advice for party. Somethings i thought didnt need to be said but today proved me wrong. - Do NOT run in the direction of the healer. EVER. If the boss is targeting you and you are going to die, then die. Dont take the healer with you or there will be no one to revive you.
- If all the healers in the party died (on a boss fight), retreat and disband/leave party.
- If someone is taking the role of party leader, giving commands and making strategies, listen to them. (Unless what they are saying is complete rubish, but if you don't have enough party experience you can't be the judge of that, so just go along with it).
Yeah running to healer is a bad idea... For Morbeezlem... I'd suggest keeping ur bish moving and have tankers center themselves within range. Also, for bow ninjas.. kite doc and try not to maintain aggro. Beyond that... I have no idea... also for Ench... if u have origin.. use flame and ice and if u can hit back with manaburn... if u have illness hit then send back the poison and paralysis. Well, there's my party- Bish, Ench, Bow Ninja, and Paladin with high hp.
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Post by ManaKhe on Nov 17, 2015 6:58:55 GMT
I said before that i don't really party much outside of my alts, but still i'd like to believe im not completely useless in a party (at least no one has ever complained to me - just teased me about my lowish damage with my old build). Today i was doing my bishop's mq and reached a boss I couldnt duo (Morbelzem, coz his purple floor thingy kept killing the bishop) and decided to move to server 1 and try to get a party (after trying to solo and giving up - my bish wasnt ready for that). So here are my advice for party. Somethings i thought didnt need to be said but today proved me wrong. - Do NOT run in the direction of the healer. EVER. If the boss is targeting you and you are going to die, then die. Dont take the healer with you or there will be no one to revive you.
- If all the healers in the party died (on a boss fight), retreat and disband/leave party.
- If someone is taking the role of party leader, giving commands and making strategies, listen to them. (Unless what they are saying is complete rubish, but if you don't have enough party experience you can't be the judge of that, so just go along with it).
Seen people do this way too many times. Maybe they think that if they are about to die they could run to the Healer and they will heal them or something. Idk. There's many a time I've just wanted to punch someone for doing this. Them and Bishops only have experience healing Ninjas via MQ. The horror...
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Post by ruebear on Nov 17, 2015 17:04:39 GMT
I said before that i don't really party much outside of my alts, but still i'd like to believe im not completely useless in a party (at least no one has ever complained to me - just teased me about my lowish damage with my old build). Today i was doing my bishop's mq and reached a boss I couldnt duo (Morbelzem, coz his purple floor thingy kept killing the bishop) and decided to move to server 1 and try to get a party (after trying to solo and giving up - my bish wasnt ready for that). So here are my advice for party. Somethings i thought didnt need to be said but today proved me wrong. - Do NOT run in the direction of the healer. EVER. If the boss is targeting you and you are going to die, then die. Dont take the healer with you or there will be no one to revive you.
- If all the healers in the party died (on a boss fight), retreat and disband/leave party.
- If someone is taking the role of party leader, giving commands and making strategies, listen to them. (Unless what they are saying is complete rubish, but if you don't have enough party experience you can't be the judge of that, so just go along with it).
Oh my god, sooo true. Just in general, people need to understand that if they have argo, don't run to other team members and lead the boss to them, unless it's a strong magic based boss, then everyone is screwed either way.
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asteg
Dank Meme Lord
yar yar...wind at ye backs me fellows.
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Post by asteg on Nov 20, 2015 7:03:02 GMT
Nami o.o if ur bish still needs help i can try owo
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asteg
Dank Meme Lord
yar yar...wind at ye backs me fellows.
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Post by asteg on Nov 20, 2015 7:07:31 GMT
I never like to lead pts,or in most cases be in them.....some ppl nowadays u'd think they play by rubbing thier face on the screen
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Post by jahleel07 on Nov 20, 2015 11:17:53 GMT
for all tanks, lure the boss away from the entrance of the boss room, and always turn the boss around so the other party members will be safe and hitting at the boss back
:3
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asteg
Dank Meme Lord
yar yar...wind at ye backs me fellows.
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Post by asteg on Nov 21, 2015 6:58:17 GMT
^ i do that then ppl insist on telling me to wait for bish before i atk...
Paladins dont run around on 1 hp o.o we can tank for the 5-10 secs it takes for bish to enter boss
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Post by ||X•E|| or eksy on Nov 21, 2015 7:14:42 GMT
these are my opinions on a pt failing
-sh giving imbalance in the hate distribution -Bishops who insist on spamming neme instead of supporting the tank -High Wizards who insist on casting at close distance and ignoring everyone else's mp -Badly geared paladins lacking some essential items -Lazy sitting leechers -DC -Overconfidence and underestimation of lower lvl members -improper positioning of pt members -know it all people who dont listen to instructions for certain boss -the whole "im the hero here" thing people try to do
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Ex-Ryuka
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Post by Ex-Ryuka on Nov 21, 2015 11:24:12 GMT
This is tips for enchanter who still not able to tank properly, in other word can die easily.
-Always make sure your party member mp doesn't reach zero. -If there is no bishop or monk in pt, and you are in charge of party's member mp too, then just drain the boss and keep spamming stoneskin to yourself while running around the boss. Use this way only if there are other healer in party, such as high wizard or other enchanter. -If you are the one who can heal mp and hp in party, then don't bother to get close to boss to drain it. just sit in the corner. But if the boss has an area attack and suck your hp too from far away such as Raton 2, then keep running while spamming mini heal to yourself. Only get close to boss when other party member mp almost reach zero, or when they are dead.
The important things is always keep yourself alive by any means so you won't become the useless party member who just leach around.
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DarkTazX
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"This is where all Ends"
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Post by DarkTazX on Nov 21, 2015 14:14:00 GMT
these are my opinions on a pt failing -sh giving imbalance in the hate distribution -Bishops who insist on spamming neme instead of supporting the tank -High Wizards who insist on casting at close distance and ignoring everyone else's mp -Badly geared paladins lacking some essential items -Lazy sitting leechers -DC -Overconfidence and underestimation of lower lvl members -improper positioning of pt members -know it all people who dont listen to instructions for certain boss -the whole "im the hero here" thing people try to do Happens to me a lot of time. Example tankpally lvl 200 runs from being the tanker to the supportive and I need to tank for him (me ninjalvl211)
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Post by ||X•E|| or eksy on Nov 21, 2015 14:45:48 GMT
these are my opinions on a pt failing -sh giving imbalance in the hate distribution -Bishops who insist on spamming neme instead of supporting the tank -High Wizards who insist on casting at close distance and ignoring everyone else's mp -Badly geared paladins lacking some essential items -Lazy sitting leechers -DC -Overconfidence and underestimation of lower lvl members -improper positioning of pt members -know it all people who dont listen to instructions for certain boss -the whole "im the hero here" thing people try to do Happens to me a lot of time. Example tankpally lvl 200 runs from being the tanker to the supportive and I need to tank for him (me ninjalvl211) im guessing that pally was might have lacked the essential items for tanking such as sp.rev/onigiri/hp increase items,salt/remL or some stuff like that, Its always hard to get a perfect pt these days, theres always that game changing imbalance
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Post by ||X•E|| or eksy on Nov 21, 2015 14:53:50 GMT
I said before that i don't really party much outside of my alts, but still i'd like to believe im not completely useless in a party (at least no one has ever complained to me - just teased me about my lowish damage with my old build). Today i was doing my bishop's mq and reached a boss I couldnt duo (Morbelzem, coz his purple floor thingy kept killing the bishop) and decided to move to server 1 and try to get a party (after trying to solo and giving up - my bish wasnt ready for that). So here are my advice for party. Somethings i thought didnt need to be said but today proved me wrong. - Do NOT run in the direction of the healer. EVER. If the boss is targeting you and you are going to die, then die. Dont take the healer with you or there will be no one to revive you.
- If all the healers in the party died (on a boss fight), retreat and disband/leave party.
- If someone is taking the role of party leader, giving commands and making strategies, listen to them. (Unless what they are saying is complete rubish, but if you don't have enough party experience you can't be the judge of that, so just go along with it).
Yeah running to healer is a bad idea... For Morbeezlem... I'd suggest keeping ur bish moving and have tankers center themselves within range. Also, for bow ninjas.. kite doc and try not to maintain aggro. Beyond that... I have no idea... also for Ench... if u have origin.. use flame and ice and if u can hit back with manaburn... if u have illness hit then send back the poison and paralysis. Well, there's my party- Bish, Ench, Bow Ninja, and Paladin with high hp. for pally tanking morbeelzem a good strategy would be to circle around the boss while continuously spamming guardian since the high dmg can be avoided, did it more than once and it didnt fail
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Eaysley
Community Contributor
"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Nov 24, 2015 2:03:59 GMT
Bye Felicia for all nins who don't want my Level4 Warcry. Bye Felicia to all nins with SH (all 99% of you lol)
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elias
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The strength of a knight, the wisdom of a wizard. I am a magic warrior, I am an Enchanter!
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Post by elias on Nov 24, 2015 19:36:04 GMT
As an experienced enchanter (sort of..) this will be my advice to all my fellow enchs out there:
First of all, you must know your place in the party: Tank types should start the fight spamming Magic Blade, Damager types should wait until the Tank starts. Never use the Counter Type if you know you can't tank your opponent.
Second, buffs. But not just for you. Enchanter buffs prove to be pretty good for all classes. For example, Magic Barrier (Hp increase, and def/mdef up by int) is really useful for hws, bishops, etc.. And for dps classes such as ninjas or gladiators, Draw is a huge boost in damage (for example, Ninja's Ni Rengeki autoskill.)
Enchant Weapon is also a great buff. It may not give dmg to atk-based classes, but you give them the chance to Paralyze or even Stun foes with it.
And last of all, Stone Skin. Buddies, if you are not the tank and you party with a Pally, use it on him. It's VIT-based. You will block a nice amount of damage.
Hope this helps ^^
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asteg
Dank Meme Lord
yar yar...wind at ye backs me fellows.
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Post by asteg on Nov 24, 2015 22:15:05 GMT
When i get stone skin it usually lasts 3 hits at most on the newer bosses, i think it absorbs dmg equal to base hp o.o but i could be wrong
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