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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Dec 15, 2015 0:22:25 GMT
Ah ok i understand now, so u want the full hp dmg multiplier? I can test litch +6 vs litch +9 for armour and replica+8 vs anything +0 Is that what u need or should i do something diffrent? Preferably all equips +0 and all equips+9 but you can use anything you have. Just specify it on the data. Also Need the damage at full hp and at lowest hp. Leedle colons outside rokoko or rockers at sofya make easy test subjects assuming you use forest spirit. Will need your full stat and lvl with the data. Include your atk value during the test.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Dec 15, 2015 0:25:22 GMT
More data will help speed up process and more accurately so anybody is welcome to pitch in more data.
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Post by maximo24 on Dec 15, 2015 1:40:14 GMT
Ok i did some test with ribon of birth one is refined 0 and the other one refined+7 both have the same atk so my atk stay the same for this test and looks lie (miligrito) was right the refine value add to the formula the damg still at the end on a random damg but the damg increased by 15k to 20+k from ref+0 vs ref+7 so time to add this to the formula tnks guys and keep posting new data paladins for life!!!
Here is a video of mi runs testing your theory
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Post by maximo24 on Dec 15, 2015 1:46:30 GMT
Sell me your suigetsu if you dont need it lol Sorry I never sell my suigetsu's. I have a few of them on stock but I use them whenever I break one with empty chrysta. By the way of topic how long take you ta get the xt suigetsu im ben doing the quest in minula and no luck jus onigiris i get
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Dec 15, 2015 2:00:16 GMT
Sorry I never sell my suigetsu's. I have a few of them on stock but I use them whenever I break one with empty chrysta. By the way of topic how long take you ta get the xt suigetsu im ben doing the quest in minula and no luck jus onigiris i get Per my hunch the rate is around 1/100. Best to take some friends along to do the quest and just buy the xtal from them when they drop it. Doing it solo can drive you crazy.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Dec 15, 2015 2:25:41 GMT
Further to my tests: equipment refine - dmg at full HP - dmg at lowest HP 0weap 0body 0add | 132 | 192 | 9weap 0body 0add | 134 | 194 | 0weap 9body 0add | 139 | 199 | 0weap 0body 9add | 137 | 197 | 9weap 9body 0add | 141 | 201 | 9weap 0body 9add | 139 | 199 | 9weap 9body 9add | 146 | 206 |
This suggests that the multiplier you get from refine is fixed (not affected by hp loss)
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Dec 15, 2015 4:00:02 GMT
My theoretical formula so far is:
((ATK + YourLVL + WeaponATK - MobLVL - MobDEF + RGN) x ( 1+ elemental bonus)) x ((oath multiplier x 1+%HP loss/2) + refine coefficient + STR coefficient)
where:
ATK =your attack value
RGN = random number from 0 to (WeaponATK/5)
Refine coefficient = +0 (for +0 refine) +2 for +9 weapon +7 for +9 body +5 for +9 add gear (total of 14 if all 3 is +9)
STR coefficient = STR/30 just a hunch
Oath Multiplier = Following this theoretical formula, my current Oath multiplier is 120, I have yet to determine if this is a fixed value or what affects it. It could be STR/3 just because I have 360STR at the moment. We will know with more data.
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Post by Yazmat on Dec 15, 2015 10:38:24 GMT
Sorry I never sell my suigetsu's. I have a few of them on stock but I use them whenever I break one with empty chrysta. By the way of topic how long take you ta get the xt suigetsu im ben doing the quest in minula and no luck jus onigiris i get I just bought one and saved myself some crazy time... but not many seller unfortunately
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Post by asteg on Dec 15, 2015 14:30:46 GMT
How much are they?
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Post by Yazmat on Dec 15, 2015 14:42:25 GMT
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Post by maximo24 on Dec 15, 2015 19:36:55 GMT
By the way of topic how long take you ta get the xt suigetsu im ben doing the quest in minula and no luck jus onigiris i get I just bought one and saved myself some crazy time... but not many seller unfortunately Omg im so jelous im bn try to buy one for 100m and no sellers ur so lucky
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Post by Yazmat on Dec 15, 2015 20:06:05 GMT
I just bought one and saved myself some crazy time... but not many seller unfortunately Omg im so jelous im bn try to buy one for 100m and no sellers ur so lucky 100m lol ... just buy oritious or something xD does wol have any bad stats in weapon?
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Post by maximo24 on Dec 15, 2015 23:03:26 GMT
Omg im so jelous im bn try to buy one for 100m and no sellers ur so lucky 100m lol ... just buy oritious or something xD does wol have any bad stats in weapon? I already have oritus but i want to max atk thats why i want isugetsu since it doesn't have bad stats that matter for pali oritus give you -20%natural rec so bles is lower and more if you using 2 slot sword wol is -10%mag resistance i dont want to have that one cos the -10% plus 2 is -20% mag rec that make my pali die or get hurt from those evil mobs whe my hp is low hp doing knigh oath since i dont use int im trying to minimize penalties from xt or gears so if you want to make 100m jeje let me know
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Post by Yazmat on Dec 16, 2015 4:54:52 GMT
100m lol ... just buy oritious or something xD does wol have any bad stats in weapon? I already have oritus but i want to max atk thats why i want isugetsu since it doesn't have bad stats that matter for pali oritus give you -20%natural rec so bles is lower and more if you using 2 slot sword wol is -10%mag resistance i dont want to have that one cos the -10% plus 2 is -20% mag rec that make my pali die or get hurt from those evil mobs whe my hp is low hp doing knigh oath since i dont use int im trying to minimize penalties from xt or gears so if you want to make 100m jeje let me know No ty I ll just keep my suigetsu xD
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Mar 17, 2016 9:50:36 GMT
Upon more testings I found that the previous theory on the formula to be wrong (And also the guardian formula)
What I have so far for oath:
HP multiplier is +0 to 60 (60 at around 99% loss) Refine multiplier is: 1.875 for weapon 7.2 for body 5.4 for add
My current oath multiplier is 134.875 without the refined gears. I'm still trying to figure out what affects it. I'm quite certain that stats affect it, however, it doesn't improve with stat bonus from gears (e.g vit from myrica, str from turia)
Would have been easy to test if I had a couple of stefyls.
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