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Post by Crysta|'s hubby on Oct 31, 2015 0:18:01 GMT
The community can make a difference in the number of speed hack if we choose to excommunicate the speed hacking percent of the community. Just because someone doesn't have the same opinion doesn't make them narrow minded. Also intentionally derailing a thread is extremely rude. Now how will you ever match there ign with there forum name? And I agree difference of opinion doesn't make one narrow minded but the ignorance of not seeing the bigger picture and realize their course of action is more harmful to there own cauis is. And whether it's rude or not doesn't entirely matter, if you have the right to express yourself so do I, it's a open ended thread any are allowed to discuss it. Being a sh user is not against forum rules, but this whole thread however is against forum rules "-Actions that are against the Terms of Use of Iruna and the discussion thereof are prohibited. This includes: Real-Money Trading, sharing botting/hacking/glitching techniques, and more. For a full list refer to: iruna-online.com/riyoukiyaku " as per the community guidelines, actions that are against the Terms of Use of Iruna and the DISCUSSION thereof are prohibited, it doesn't say if you are for or against it but is the generalization of it. In that case Arent u breaking the rules by participating and discussing it here urself as well?
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Post by Crysta|'s hubby on Oct 31, 2015 0:21:53 GMT
Oh look a hate comment :v
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Post by Cerulean on Oct 31, 2015 0:23:13 GMT
Cannot the same thing be said about all government? They all have some degree of corruption in them but while that's in our real life you're sitting in your room complaining about a video game. I'm actually sitting at the gym atm. It's not a matter of "is sh gone from jp iruna due to an active in game GM" as "is there LESS sh in jp iruna because of an in game GM" and I'm pretty certain that @famine just as @shiruiyui said in his thread "dear iruna community" that there is a crap ton less sh there than what you see on eng iruna, that being the case, if things were cleaned up to an extent simply because ppl would be wary to use sh or buy or sell spina in game simply because there is an in game GM not because of overly active policing. Less sh and less rmt which prove a turn off to many who have left the game because of these things would be far more likely to hang around or return to iruna if things were cleaned up some which of course would equal $$$ And trust me mate, I've been around in this big bad world long enough and dealt with enough bullsht by now to have a fair fkn idea how this all works. Banning root would work easier and cost less,and it would be aa few gms, the game doesn't only exist in your time zone it's around the clock, so you demand around close GMs? Nah I much rather see root banned that would fix things a lot better than a gm
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Post by Cerulean on Oct 31, 2015 0:24:28 GMT
Now how will you ever match there ign with there forum name? And I agree difference of opinion doesn't make one narrow minded but the ignorance of not seeing the bigger picture and realize their course of action is more harmful to there own cauis is. And whether it's rude or not doesn't entirely matter, if you have the right to express yourself so do I, it's a open ended thread any are allowed to discuss it. Being a sh user is not against forum rules, but this whole thread however is against forum rules "-Actions that are against the Terms of Use of Iruna and the discussion thereof are prohibited. This includes: Real-Money Trading, sharing botting/hacking/glitching techniques, and more. For a full list refer to: iruna-online.com/riyoukiyaku " as per the community guidelines, actions that are against the Terms of Use of Iruna and the DISCUSSION thereof are prohibited, it doesn't say if you are for or against it but is the generalization of it. Many people post their ign if they use the marketplace here on the forums (I think that's what brings most forum members here). I believe people who choose to fight speed hack are less harmful than those who choose to ignore it. Use the Report Post button if you see a rule broken, instead of continually posting off topic replies in attempts to get a thread locked maybe just use the report option, though I take it you don't prefer this method. wouldn't work, they'd make an alt shop character then what?
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bravebor
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to slack to give a damn, yet to bored to not say anything...
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Post by bravebor on Oct 31, 2015 0:26:57 GMT
I'm actually sitting at the gym atm. It's not a matter of "is sh gone from jp iruna due to an active in game GM" as "is there LESS sh in jp iruna because of an in game GM" and I'm pretty certain that @famine just as @shiruiyui said in his thread "dear iruna community" that there is a crap ton less sh there than what you see on eng iruna, that being the case, if things were cleaned up to an extent simply because ppl would be wary to use sh or buy or sell spina in game simply because there is an in game GM not because of overly active policing. Less sh and less rmt which prove a turn off to many who have left the game because of these things would be far more likely to hang around or return to iruna if things were cleaned up some which of course would equal $$$ And trust me mate, I've been around in this big bad world long enough and dealt with enough bullsht by now to have a fair fkn idea how this all works. Banning root would work easier and cost less,and it would be aa few gms, the game doesn't only exist in your time zone it's around the clock, so you demand around close GMs? Nah I much rather see root banned that would fix things a lot better than a gm I see your not around here much. I've already made that argument a number of times in other threads here. But it's 1 or the other and in some context the headache will still be there but it will be lessened to a substantial extent. So long as 1 or the other is implemented I'm happy.
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Post by Cerulean on Oct 31, 2015 0:26:58 GMT
Now how will you ever match there ign with there forum name? And I agree difference of opinion doesn't make one narrow minded but the ignorance of not seeing the bigger picture and realize their course of action is more harmful to there own cauis is. And whether it's rude or not doesn't entirely matter, if you have the right to express yourself so do I, it's a open ended thread any are allowed to discuss it. Being a sh user is not against forum rules, but this whole thread however is against forum rules "-Actions that are against the Terms of Use of Iruna and the discussion thereof are prohibited. This includes: Real-Money Trading, sharing botting/hacking/glitching techniques, and more. For a full list refer to: iruna-online.com/riyoukiyaku " as per the community guidelines, actions that are against the Terms of Use of Iruna and the DISCUSSION thereof are prohibited, it doesn't say if you are for or against it but is the generalization of it. In that case Arent u breaking the rules by participating and discussing it here urself as well? Yep
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Post by Cerulean on Oct 31, 2015 0:30:11 GMT
Banning root would work easier and cost less,and it would be aa few gms, the game doesn't only exist in your time zone it's around the clock, so you demand around close GMs? Nah I much rather see root banned that would fix things a lot better than a gm I see your not around here much. I've already made that argument a number of times in other threads here. But it's 1 or the other and in some context the headache will still be there but it will be lessened to a substantial extent. So long as 1 or the other is implemented I'm happy. nah not usually, typically I have better things to do. But all and all a root ban is cheapest and cleanest work.
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bravebor
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to slack to give a damn, yet to bored to not say anything...
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Post by bravebor on Oct 31, 2015 0:30:41 GMT
Banning root would work easier and cost less,and it would be aa few gms, the game doesn't only exist in your time zone it's around the clock, so you demand around close GMs? Nah I much rather see root banned that would fix things a lot better than a gm I see your not around here much. I've already made that argument a number of times in other threads here. But it's 1 or the other and in some context the headache will still be there but it will be lessened to a substantial extent. So long as 1 or the other is implemented I'm happy. Look up sh banned new update in general discussion.
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bravebor
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Post by bravebor on Oct 31, 2015 0:32:44 GMT
I see your not around here much. I've already made that argument a number of times in other threads here. But it's 1 or the other and in some context the headache will still be there but it will be lessened to a substantial extent. So long as 1 or the other is implemented I'm happy. nah not usually, typically I have better things to do. But all and all a root ban is cheapest and cleanest work. Better things to do 0.0 I don't use fb, I'm checking this and some articles in paper I'm subscribed to between sets of exercises at the gym (here twice a day btw 3hr+ each round)
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Post by Crysta| on Oct 31, 2015 0:37:41 GMT
Many people post their ign if they use the marketplace here on the forums (I think that's what brings most forum members here). I believe people who choose to fight speed hack are less harmful than those who choose to ignore it. Use the Report Post button if you see a rule broken, instead of continually posting off topic replies in attempts to get a thread locked maybe just use the report option, though I take it you don't prefer this method. wouldn't work, they'd make an alt shop character then what? This segregation theory extends beyond the forums, is it flawless? No, but it's better than turning a blind eye and pretending that this issue has no effect on anyone but the speed hackers themselves.
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Post by Cerulean on Oct 31, 2015 0:37:52 GMT
nah not usually, typically I have better things to do. But all and all a root ban is cheapest and cleanest work. Better things to do 0.0 I don't use fb, I'm checking this and some articles in paper I'm subscribed to between sets of exercises at the gym (here twice a day btw 3hr+ each round) I read it, and that guy is right banning root is hard to do and you can always hide root but a lot of people aren't so tech savvy to know how to do it so it would lower users, but like he said it's all pointless, they don't wanna spend extra money to make the few who complain happy
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Post by Cerulean on Oct 31, 2015 0:38:55 GMT
wouldn't work, they'd make an alt shop character then what? This segregation theory extends beyond the forums, is it flawless? No, but it's better than turning a blind eye and pretending that this issue has no effect on anyone but the speed hackers themselves. why do you avoid every question I have for you?
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bravebor
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Post by bravebor on Oct 31, 2015 0:51:06 GMT
Better things to do 0.0 I don't use fb, I'm checking this and some articles in paper I'm subscribed to between sets of exercises at the gym (here twice a day btw 3hr+ each round) I read it, and that guy is right banning root is hard to do and you can always hide root but a lot of people aren't so tech savvy to know how to do it so it would lower users, but like he said it's all pointless, they don't wanna spend extra money to make the few who complain happy Which is exactly the reason those such as myself and crystal and @shiruiyui believe it's up to all of us who care for and enjoy this game to do something towards discouraging ppl from taking up sh in the 1st place. yes it CAN be done, we just need to take the right approach and be pro-active in our methods. Every day I'm on I do the easy thing to manage which many may simply be to lazy to do anything about by crashing the GCs selling sh lvl service or newbs that don't know any better asking to buy sh and so far I'm happy to say, I've had a 90% hit rate in shutting these down by educating the newbs on the advantages of certain classes and things they might want to look at if it's quick kills that they are after. Other times I'll crash a gc selling sh and do what I can to drive ppl out of there while at the same time still trying to educate newbs I find there on better ways of playing the game. When I see "sell sh indo"....pffft well PIE what am I going to do -_- I make a gc basically insulting and thereby inviting them into my gc so I can ss confessions by buthurt sh users of using it. Serious, if were more ppl like me then life would be easy (either that or I might try to kill those like me 0.0 )
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Post by Crysta| on Oct 31, 2015 0:52:01 GMT
This segregation theory extends beyond the forums, is it flawless? No, but it's better than turning a blind eye and pretending that this issue has no effect on anyone but the speed hackers themselves. why do you avoid every question I have for you? I didn't realize I was obligated to answer any of your questions. To reiterate if you think my thread breaks forum rules simply use the report post button, I can tell you see this as ineffective and choose to use an alternative method, I'm making a similar choice.
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Post by Cerulean on Oct 31, 2015 1:02:54 GMT
I read it, and that guy is right banning root is hard to do and you can always hide root but a lot of people aren't so tech savvy to know how to do it so it would lower users, but like he said it's all pointless, they don't wanna spend extra money to make the few who complain happy Which is exactly the reason those such as myself and crystal and @shiruiyui believe it's up to all of us who care for and enjoy this game to do something towards discouraging ppl from taking up sh in the 1st place. yes it CAN be done, we just need to take the right approach and be pro-active in our methods. Every day I'm on I do the easy thing to manage which many may simply be to lazy to do anything about by crashing the GCs selling sh lvl service or newbs that don't know any better asking to buy sh and so far I'm happy to say, I've had a 90% hit rate in shutting these down by educating the newbs on the advantages of certain classes and things they might want to look at if it's quick kills that they are after. Other times I'll crash a gc selling sh and do what I can to drive ppl out of there while at the same time still trying to educate newbs I find there on better ways of playing the game. When I see "sell sh indo"....pffft well PIE what am I going to do -_- I make a gc basically insulting and thereby inviting them into my gc so I can ss confessions by buthurt sh users of using it. Serious, if were more ppl like me then life would be easy (either that or I might try to kill those like me 0.0 ) I commend you on educating people about it that's by far the better solution than dividing and segregating people, there always is a proper way to go about things a "witch hunt" I wouldn't be okay with. Segregation just instills hate among people which history has proven time and time again and is the biggest reason I highly disagree with such extremist solutions, I myself don't care for sh users I report every one i see, I'm not gonna call themout on it cause anyone looking clearly can see what they're doing. I hope you don't misunderstand my point, yes I agree it's an issue but segregating isn't the answer, at least imo
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