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Oct 20, 2015 11:41:13 GMT
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Post by darksh1t on Oct 20, 2015 11:41:13 GMT
Im lvl 74 Warrior, I have 50Int and rest to Vit.
QUESTIONS:
1. Should I Put more Int or let it on 50 and put str instead?
2.After Maxing VIT, Should I max DEX or max INT(or Str) First?
3.What better build and more advantageous for the future?
4.I have w.transer and litch. But confused on add and special equip. Any suggestions?
I want Pally with high Guardian damage but also tanky..
THANKS IN ADVANCE.
IGN: DZKNIGHT
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Post by Umaru-chan on Oct 20, 2015 12:44:00 GMT
Depends on what you want tbh
For full def/mdef: Vit > or = Int >Dex
For more damage: Vit>Dex>Str
From what i know firstly maxing vit is a must then the next depends on what your build is gonna be so if full def/mdef maybe int comes next AFTER maxing vit then dex after that or if you chose full dmg build then after max vit, dex would be next, after dex is str
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Yazmat
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Pally Lv351 | Alchy Lv318
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Post by Yazmat on Oct 20, 2015 12:59:42 GMT
for additional use idealsol (until you have shield mastery at level 240 then you can possibly switch for shields)
for special use myrica writlet there is nothing better for paladins
I would suggest you to max vit then dex, after you max dex then you can choose between having more int or switching to str build
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Post by Jeancarlo on Oct 20, 2015 13:00:27 GMT
Why not read first, post later? You already have a thread open, why make a new one? There's a lot of good threads here that angers your question already.
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bravebor
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to slack to give a damn, yet to bored to not say anything...
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Post by bravebor on Oct 20, 2015 14:33:39 GMT
Why not read first, post later? You already have a thread open, why make a new one? There's a lot of good threads here that angers your question already. Hehe don't you just love auto spell... Im lvl 74 Warrior, I have 50Int and rest to Vit. QUESTIONS: 1. Should I Put more Int or let it on 50 and put str instead? 2.After Maxing VIT, Should I max DEX or max INT(or Str) First? 3.What better build and more advantageous for the future? 4.I have w.transer and litch. But confused on add and special equip. Any suggestions? I want Pally with high Guardian damage but also tanky.. THANKS IN ADVANCE. IGN: DZKNIGHT Dude... Like jeancarlo said, you already have a thread open asking exactly the same thing -_-. 4 people have given advice, the 1st 3 saying the same thing on maxing vit FIRST. I gave you a full rundown on the basics of gear for pal, until you hit 160 it's all easy, after then you look at different equip to play with for different situations and people have taken the time to make guides in this sections to make things easy to figure. It's part of the fun of the journey bud is doin the research on your class and deciding what would suit you better. Now in answer to you q on wanting atk and to be able to tank, Max vit, then what I did to give myself more of an MP pool and enough of an mdef buffer to get me buy was just build int to 85 (your litch will make up to an extent mdef you might require and if needed there's carmo hood for you which gives mdef up by vit def up by int) then I maxed my dex. |
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lutalo
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Stubbornly refusing to change from magic paladin xD
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Post by lutalo on Oct 20, 2015 14:36:00 GMT
You dont need a second thread you can just keep using the old thread. (for future reference)
ALL builds are "tanky" cuz all paladins max vit
Since you want better damage go for vit>dex>str or vit>dex>int
Regarding equips you already have that answered above and in the other thread and there's a guide.
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Post by Umaru-chan on Oct 20, 2015 17:09:20 GMT
Now that ive seen the other thread created, i think antz pretty much answered your concern there
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мιкαღ
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Post by мιкαღ on Oct 20, 2015 17:40:46 GMT
People have pretty much answered your question hun but in case you're a bit lost I'll try to help a bit...
I'm 169 and I have the following:
I keep all of these on me for different bosses...
Katz (HP +20%) [1m]
W. Transfer (HP +20%) [2m]
Ama no Habikiri (HP +20%) [Free/Farmed myself]
Licht Armor (HP +20%) [4m]
Present Bell (HP +20%) [Free/Chrustmas Event]
Myrica Wristlet NS [Free/Got during MQ]
I THINK I have a ☆Ability on something finally butI don't even have them yet!! Not gonna say Pally is easy but it's not impossible with this cheap gear set...
Up until 140 I had Plate Mail and just Katz... As far as gear goes Pally is pretty forgiving in all honesty... As long as you can stay alive it's great! Shoot, people use Chainmail Up to farm with!! Yes, everyone knows what works best is the expensive stuff but if you're like me where you HATE dealing with Rokoko or want to farm it yourself it's possible!! Xtals don't have to be amazing, HP +20% is a go to xtal for Pallys though so farm High Ents when you can... Besides you out live their poison thanks to their xtals so it's not too bad!!
As far as build I've tried almost everything to be a little more of an 'Attacking Pally'... I got Edal Hood so I could hold off on INT for better DEX, I restatted a BUNCH of times and now I am doing VIT@300/DEX=INT Just because I don't want to lose that little bit of solo ability I have on my own MQ... I killed BOTH Ratons and Irai with just my pet but I'll tell you now, Pally is SLOW to play... 160 it gets good and 200+ is when your true solo ability shines through thanks to skills!! It depends on YOUR play style and what works for you. But either way INT is a good stat to have without Ama no Habikiri to up your MDEF... Since you mentioned Gaurdian I have 60k+ HP and with full HP and War Cry I do 12k+ per hit. But it eats 1k HP per use so keep HP pots close and heal often or your DMG will go down. Mind you it's DMG is based on your current HP so when that falls so does your damage...
You'll figure it out though!! Just keep reading everything you see on Pallys, ask other Pallys if you get stuck and you'll be fine!!
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Oct 20, 2015 20:34:51 GMT
![]() Everyone here has answered the important thing already, so I will just add some facts here. >>The first status, of course, is vit. Vit adds HP, def, and small amount of mdef. >>Now, the second status is more important to consider, dex or int. If dex, you will need would transer(trance, if upgraded). Vit and dex will maximize def, but low mdef. If int, you will switch form special sword to magic sword at some points. Vit and int will maximize mdef, but not maximize def. >>Then, the third status will depend on the second one. If you choose dex as the second status, now, you have choices to go int or str. VIT>DEX>STR route will do highest damage and highest def(from wound trance), but lowest mdef. VIT>DEX>INT route will do fair damage, highest def(from wound trance), and fair mdef. If you choose int as the second status, you only have one choice, dex. VIT>INT>DEX route will do fair damage, fair def, and highest mdef. For the damage above, I considered only the damage from Guardian. For the other factor, such as mp pool and heal, those influenced by int, so those will follow mdef rate as well. Editted; Adding a picture, I know words make people bored to read.  |
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Post by Mahouko on Oct 21, 2015 2:18:11 GMT
![]() Everyone here has answered the important thing already, so I will just add some facts here. >>The first status, of course, is vit. Vit adds HP, def, and small amount of mdef. >>Now, the second status is more important to consider, dex or int. If dex, you will need would transer(trance, if upgraded). Vit and dex will maximize def, but low mdef. If int, you will switch form special sword to magic sword at some points. Vit and int will maximize mdef, but not maximize def. >>Then, the third status will depend on the second one. If you choose dex as the second status, now, you have choices to go int or str. VIT>DEX>STR route will do highest damage and highest def(from wound trance), but lowest mdef. VIT>DEX>INT route will do fair damage, highest def(from wound trance), and fair mdef. If you choose int as the second status, you only have one choice, dex. VIT>INT>DEX route will do fair damage, fair def, and highest mdef. For the damage above, I considered only the damage from Guardian. For the other factor, such as mp pool and heal, those influenced by int, so those will follow mdef rate as well. Editted; Adding a picture, I know words make people bored to read. View AttachmentWhy is Vit>Str>Dex so unpopular on English server? It's on the iruna Senki "how to" and many JP servers use this build. Str also gets counted twice in the guardian formula (once in atk and once again as raw Str). I'm currently leveling up a Vit=Str>Dex (100 Red) Pali, and I'm loving it! I used Wound up early on due to my level being much lower than the mobs I was grinding, but now that I'm closing on on their level, I use Futsu and Air Strum most of the time. Regular sword is so much fun xD Edit - I also think Str second is better dmg even if using s sword, because of how guardian formula works. Seems like the .5 atk gained from dex wouldn't matter too much because of this. |
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Oct 21, 2015 3:48:06 GMT
![]() Everyone here has answered the important thing already, so I will just add some facts here. >>The first status, of course, is vit. Vit adds HP, def, and small amount of mdef. >>Now, the second status is more important to consider, dex or int. If dex, you will need would transer(trance, if upgraded). Vit and dex will maximize def, but low mdef. If int, you will switch form special sword to magic sword at some points. Vit and int will maximize mdef, but not maximize def. >>Then, the third status will depend on the second one. If you choose dex as the second status, now, you have choices to go int or str. VIT>DEX>STR route will do highest damage and highest def(from wound trance), but lowest mdef. VIT>DEX>INT route will do fair damage, highest def(from wound trance), and fair mdef. If you choose int as the second status, you only have one choice, dex. VIT>INT>DEX route will do fair damage, fair def, and highest mdef. For the damage above, I considered only the damage from Guardian. For the other factor, such as mp pool and heal, those influenced by int, so those will follow mdef rate as well. Editted; Adding a picture, I know words make people bored to read. Why is Vit>Str>Dex so unpopular on English server? It's on the iruna Senki "how to" and many JP servers use this build. Str also gets counted twice in the guardian formula (once in atk and once again as raw Str). I'm currently leveling up a Vit=Str>Dex (100 Red) Pali, and I'm loving it! I used Wound up early on due to my level being much lower than the mobs I was grinding, but now that I'm closing on on their level, I use Futsu and Air Strum most of the time. Regular sword is so much fun xD Edit - I also think Str second is better dmg even if using s sword, because of how guardian formula works. Seems like the .5 atk gained from dex wouldn't matter too much because of this. The main reason, I think, is the tanky ability. If you add str before dex, you will lose the def that you will get from wound transer. However, vit>str>dex does higher damage than vit>dex>str due to elemental sword. |
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Post by Variz on Oct 21, 2015 6:27:39 GMT
![]() Everyone here has answered the important thing already, so I will just add some facts here. >>The first status, of course, is vit. Vit adds HP, def, and small amount of mdef. >>Now, the second status is more important to consider, dex or int. If dex, you will need would transer(trance, if upgraded). Vit and dex will maximize def, but low mdef. If int, you will switch form special sword to magic sword at some points. Vit and int will maximize mdef, but not maximize def. >>Then, the third status will depend on the second one. If you choose dex as the second status, now, you have choices to go int or str. VIT>DEX>STR route will do highest damage and highest def(from wound trance), but lowest mdef. VIT>DEX>INT route will do fair damage, highest def(from wound trance), and fair mdef. If you choose int as the second status, you only have one choice, dex. VIT>INT>DEX route will do fair damage, fair def, and highest mdef. For the damage above, I considered only the damage from Guardian. For the other factor, such as mp pool and heal, those influenced by int, so those will follow mdef rate as well. Editted; Adding a picture, I know words make people bored to read. View AttachmentWhy is Vit>Str>Dex so unpopular on English server? It's on the iruna Senki "how to" and many JP servers use this build. Str also gets counted twice in the guardian formula (once in atk and once again as raw Str). I'm currently leveling up a Vit=Str>Dex (100 Red) Pali, and I'm loving it! I used Wound up early on due to my level being much lower than the mobs I was grinding, but now that I'm closing on on their level, I use Futsu and Air Strum most of the time. Regular sword is so much fun xD Edit - I also think Str second is better dmg even if using s sword, because of how guardian formula works. Seems like the .5 atk gained from dex wouldn't matter too much because of this. Vit>dex>Str not popular because ppl like a mainstream things and not like Anti Mainstream things |
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Post by Umaru-chan on Oct 21, 2015 6:43:04 GMT
Why is Vit>Str>Dex so unpopular on English server? It's on the iruna Senki "how to" and many JP servers use this build. Str also gets counted twice in the guardian formula (once in atk and once again as raw Str). I'm currently leveling up a Vit=Str>Dex (100 Red) Pali, and I'm loving it! I used Wound up early on due to my level being much lower than the mobs I was grinding, but now that I'm closing on on their level, I use Futsu and Air Strum most of the time. Regular sword is so much fun xD Edit - I also think Str second is better dmg even if using s sword, because of how guardian formula works. Seems like the .5 atk gained from dex wouldn't matter too much because of this. Vit>dex>Str not popular because ppl like a mainstream things and not like Anti Mainstream things Vit dex str is popular O.o i only know a few who have an vit int dex build. these 2 builds cant be considered mainstream since atm its the only efficient build for pallys, Vit Str Dex has alot of potential but really is not as efficient as the "mainstream" build in early levels |
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