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Post by Satori on Sept 12, 2015 13:53:21 GMT
Hmm im thinking to make a pally as my alt with this build
VIT>AGI>INT
probly it wont have any real dmg at all but its fine for me since i just need it for afk tank a boss while my nin spam doc on it
My dream equip list will be
Vermi2 plitz (+55%hp i think?)
Still dk plitz (++30% hp)
Miwi2 plitz (+55% hp)
Spec s Douin(+40%hp)
Star abi ill probly use ☆hp/vit/provoke
Any1 got suggestion for armor or spec which give good hp bonus?
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Post by Stacy's Mom on Sept 12, 2015 14:04:38 GMT
uhh. you'd still need to be spamming guardian (you can't afk) , for which you'll need sustain (pots/bishop) (pallies don't take 1 damage).
if you don't have delay- gear your guardian spam will be interrupted by autoattacks.
myrica is best special, even ns.
i think vermillion is a normal sword, you'll have no atk (almost no damage), making it hard to maintain aggro.
kaise plitz is like shooting yourself in the foot (it gives more hp, but makes you take more damage).
idealsol / duel shield / gloot > miwi hat
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Yazmat
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Pally Lv351 | Alchy Lv318
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Post by Yazmat on Sept 12, 2015 14:15:02 GMT
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Sept 12, 2015 14:21:09 GMT
I'm also playing VIT>INT>AGI now.
In my opinion, if you are going with that sword, you might add some str for more atk. I'm not sure which number is max str that still gain atk normally, maybe 126 or 127. For AGI, I think there are maximum aspd that can add atk with that sword as well. For special gear, use myrica wristlet ns is better than any spec with Douin.
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Post by Satori on Sept 13, 2015 2:06:20 GMT
o.o ty for the reply i aiming too much for hp i stop thinking that i still need dmg to gain agro x.x
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Yazmat
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Post by Yazmat on Sept 13, 2015 4:53:12 GMT
o.o ty for the reply i aiming too much for hp i stop thinking that i still need dmg to gain agro x.x unless you are gonna spam provoke lol and don't forget that hp is also source of damage for pally |
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Sept 14, 2015 5:15:07 GMT
Hmm im thinking to make a pally as my alt with this build VIT>AGI>INT probly it wont have any real dmg at all but its fine for me since i just need it for afk tank a boss while my nin spam doc on it My dream equip list will be Vermi2 plitz (+55%hp i think?) Still dk plitz (++30% hp) Miwi2 plitz (+55% hp) Spec s Douin(+40%hp) Star abi ill probly use ☆hp/vit/provoke Any1 got suggestion for armor or spec which give good hp bonus? You can maybe try using Lebenglanz so you can pop some good damage rather than relying entirely on your ninja for DPS. I have done solo semi-AFK boss runs with this (enter boss, click attack, berserk, AFK, then re-do). I reckon you can do the same with full VIT full AGI so you don't have to berserk. You can do this with or without INT so you can prioritize VIT and AGI (for survivability). Click here to see Lebenglanz in actionI have done runs in Ganei with a party and am able to hold aggro for a while provided that I hit first. So you can hit first with your Pally then DoC with your ninja (just be particular with your aggro). Since you might end up doing DoC sparingly to prevent aggro, a good Pally DPS comes in handy to cover the loss in DPS. You can maybe consider using provoke abilities to stretch the hold a bit. Even if Lebenglanz requires high HP, I would stay away from K.Piltz as the penalty is quite heavy. Sure, Fortis can negate it but you need the extra mitigation rather than using it to negate a penalty. You might also want to consider being CRT based if you plan to AFK. I've seen low level CRT Pally hit over 10k single crits even with ns gear. This is because Fortis grants extra damage for your criticals. Stun parry damage is also increased. This is further amplified if you face dark bosses due to gloria. You might want to consider HP drain equips with this build (like Lamia) if you still have problems with survivability. Anyway, as I always have tried to suggest, Pallys should consider their DPS. Pallys who do not look into their DPS may find that they are unable to perform well because they fail to realize that long fights make the bosses more deadly. Ganei is a good example. It's a low level boss than you can easily kill in seconds, but if you try to delay for a minute or so you are going to have serious problems. |
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Post by lacs on Sept 14, 2015 13:57:59 GMT
You could try focussing all that money on your ninja, and make him not depend on an alt, for what I know I'll say pally needs to spam guardian to get the hate coming, if you are going with him with agi, try putting an autoskill on the pally sword, a provoke autoskill to make the aggro going to him
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Post by AnTz on Oct 6, 2015 0:58:18 GMT
First, if u intend to make pally that can tank a ninja while afk (auto attack), I ll say to the point: IMPOSSIBLE. Pally need do provoke to gain hate and spam guardian to maintain it. If u auto attack, it wont last a second till boss syart move to ur ninja when ur ninja do DoC.
Second, use kaise piltz is very not recommended for paladin. It hurts more than additional 10% hp offered (compared with hp+20%)
Third, as conclusion, while the build itself is very tanky build (ignore the low damage), u cant tank anyone if u play auto attack. I believe even auto attack enchanter still more agro. Spam guardian is must be done if u want play tanker role in party
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