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Post by ✯✯✯ on Jul 25, 2015 0:49:33 GMT
First of all RMT in iruna's agreement is wrong coz they dont want people writing them "i got scam for that much $$" and force asobimo to recover it, report for RMT and you surely wont get ban from game for hours like using sh, yes now things will come to that people gonna bring other variable to bury the matter of sh so they can sh in peace lol
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Post by ✯✯✯ on Jul 25, 2015 0:52:08 GMT
In my opinion, it depends. There's SHers who do RMT, there's SHers that don't do RMT, there's fair players who's doing RMT and there's fair players that don't do RMT. Indeed there's people who level up characters via SH to sell it with real money, they use the game as a way to get paid IRL (kinda like a job). There's also fair players (don't use hacks) that do RMT only to get more Spina to buy gears/stuff, such as many of my friends. But we can still say those non-hack users play fairly, in a way It's not playing fairly in my opinion, you're using an outside source to gain an advantage inside the game. Both RMT and SH violate the game rules in the same way. So you are saying using your own dollars to buy in game source is inside source and fair? While using other's dollers to buy in game stuff is outside source? |
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Post by quitted on Jul 25, 2015 1:03:02 GMT
Shiruyui maybe you should edit your post add this video as metaphor, you know even animals can understand about fairness. i love to use this video when im arguing with SHer in facebook group, criticise their selfishness.
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Post by lacs on Jul 25, 2015 1:04:08 GMT
It's not playing fairly in my opinion, you're using an outside source to gain an advantage inside the game. Both RMT and SH violate the game rules in the same way. So you are saying using your own dollars to buy in game source is inside source and fair? While using other's dollers to buy in game stuff is outside source? what he is trying to say is, that the use of SH or any hacks in game is against the rules, by any means, way or reasons, buying anything using owned money is fair, buying a leveled character makes the buyer instantly a high leveled noob, because that is not made by his own time, he might be strong, but he is one of the first dumbs i find asking me about how does he gets a pet |
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Post by Shiruyui on Jul 25, 2015 1:43:16 GMT
Shiruyui maybe you should edit your post add this video as metaphor, you know even animals can understand about fairness. i love to use this video when im arguing with SHer in facebook group, criticise their selfishness. OMG THAT WAS HILARIOUS he threw the cucumber XD and aye that's an awesome idea! I'll add it to the first post '-')b haha |
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Post by jbazt on Jul 25, 2015 4:06:52 GMT
sometimes lack of infos about games latest update/features aint mean that the player is noob. but this sh users that acquired lvls using this $h!t shall reflects on the equipments they carry. crap and poorly refined armor/weaps what worse is the weapon is not even ideal for his/her class/stats . slacking on party vs a specific boss/mobs, dont fully understand their skills and dont know when to use it (a pally that sucks at keeping the hate/ a bish that seldom heal and bless/a sniper who deny buffs (poison/darkness/paralysis)/ a wizz who dont give mp at all. on higher boss like specia, i believe most shift its element as the battle starts until it dies. so even the new boss starts to gain tatics. sh users just got nice stats by digits, but on tactics/experience they sucks bigtime. "HIGH LEVEL NOOBS" hahahah!!!
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Post by Crysta| on Jul 25, 2015 5:04:05 GMT
It's not playing fairly in my opinion, you're using an outside source to gain an advantage inside the game. Both RMT and SH violate the game rules in the same way. So you are saying using your own dollars to buy in game source is inside source and fair? While using other's dollers to buy in game stuff is outside source? The other's dollars are buying your spina not your coin shop items. Asobimo offers in app purchases (like most apps) however they don't allow players to buy Spina with Real world money, it would break the game. |
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Post by Crysta| on Jul 25, 2015 7:17:33 GMT
So you are saying using your own dollars to buy in game source is inside source and fair? While using other's dollers to buy in game stuff is outside source? what he is trying to say is, that the use of SH or any hacks in game is against the rules, by any means, way or reasons, buying anything using owned money is fair, buying a leveled character makes the buyer instantly a high leveled noob, because that is not made by his own time, he might be strong, but he is one of the first dumbs i find asking me about how does he gets a pet I never asked you to speak for me, if I had you would know not to refer to me as "he" |
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Post by Yousuck! on Jul 25, 2015 8:51:48 GMT
what he is trying to say is, that the use of SH or any hacks in game is against the rules, by any means, way or reasons, buying anything using owned money is fair, buying a leveled character makes the buyer instantly a high leveled noob, because that is not made by his own time, he might be strong, but he is one of the first dumbs i find asking me about how does he gets a pet I never asked you to speak for me, if I had you would know not to refer to me as "he" Yeah, i'm kinda agreed with this one, But lets focus about the way that seller making A CHARACTER WITH CAPPED LVL AND FULL STAT RELEASE LEVEL IN 10 DAYS that must be involve sacrifice virgin blood, drawing pentagram, agrrement with demon or just using bot/sh |
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Post by Yousuck! on Jul 25, 2015 9:02:35 GMT
And here the way i'm thinking : - Asobimo selling coins, we can buy with real money for things in iruna - Still ACCEPTABLE due my statement on top : 1. We sell things in iruna, to get real money 2. We buy things in iruna with real money ( the reason iruna banned this is the risk online trading, so we cant sue iruna if you get scammed ) UNACCEPTABLE : 1. Using third apps to abuse/override game system Thats including bot,sh 2. Losing Argue with sh/bot user (except the user are girls, seriously don't argue with woman, you wont win) I'm still okay with someone buy other iruna account, in reason that people stop playing or retired (I'm ios user, cant buy/change account like android user  ) But i hate the way people selling level service through bot in some android emulator at pc.. Its broke iruna agreement and terms |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 9:35:38 GMT
Setting aside the SH, Any means of RMT inside Iruna isnt considered as "fair". After you install the game theres a window that want you to pay attention with before you start the game. 80% of people will just agree with the terms of the game that they didnt read it in the first place. As you start to land your feet in Bailune Fort it means you agreed with game company terms already. As per the terms of use copied directly from Iruna official SiteASOBIMO may terminate your services if any "INAPPROPRIATE" actions are recognized. APPLICATION may not be used to do any of the following 3. Sell, trade, buy, use, promote, or advertise virtual items for real or electronic money --- This exactly describes people who buy any virtual aspects inside of the game. GPC/iTunes for Spina (vice versa), Buying accounts, Items, etc. Good example $pina man . 4. Sell, trade or buy virtual items for items with or from other online games. ---While this one describes, B>COC TH8 for 100M or for real money, afaik COC refers clash of clans while TH is? Sorry dont know. Even though we say RMT is better than those SH users that cause the game to malfucntion, rules are rules, and must be abide by everyone. Simply say anything we do that is against the rules cant be considered as "fair" by all means. But everyones statement here does make sense, and its good to know that many chooses to play according to the game rules and policies. While I dont really care if these inappropriate actions exists. Even you had hundreds of sh users around you is fine you'll still play fairly at the end of the day, but my main concern here (and which cant be denied) that Speedhacking affects the game and cause it to malfuction. |
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Post by lacs on Jul 25, 2015 15:47:10 GMT
what he is trying to say is, that the use of SH or any hacks in game is against the rules, by any means, way or reasons, buying anything using owned money is fair, buying a leveled character makes the buyer instantly a high leveled noob, because that is not made by his own time, he might be strong, but he is one of the first dumbs i find asking me about how does he gets a pet I never asked you to speak for me, if I had you would know not to refer to me as "he" oh, sorry, one of the internet rules for me is "everyone is a man until proved the opposite" and sorry for trying to even speak directly or indirectly to you, I'll try to avoid you from now on And about the main thread discussion, I wish to know, what is the proper way to report a SH user, because I report all of them all the time and I guess they are still there, I see the same SH noob at high ents all the days and report him all the days, he is still there (I use he for everyone) |
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Post by ✯✯✯ on Jul 25, 2015 16:09:40 GMT
My point here is we made the thread for sh/bot,
Mainly sh who made this game hell,
1, you cannot baum just recently i tried and found 6 sh at same map
2, u'll end up sitting wondering what to do since market already ruined by sh i.e u take weeks to make something while sh makes it in few hours and boom market price gets way way low so not worth making it anymore
3, rollback is now a curse which haunt me now, i think twice before taking any big step coz who knows we will get another rollback tmr?
You cannot enjoy your game anymore due to these sh who lvl so in rush that maybe they think there is no tmr.
So yes dont bring other aspect to bury the cause of this thread coz it will only distract you from what we want and it is "eliminate sh-er",
New thread is welcome for other issues
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Post by Crysta| on Jul 25, 2015 20:17:16 GMT
I never asked you to speak for me, if I had you would know not to refer to me as "he" oh, sorry, one of the internet rules for me is "everyone is a man until proved the opposite" and sorry for trying to even speak directly or indirectly to you, I'll try to avoid you from now on And about the main thread discussion, I wish to know, what is the proper way to report a SH user, because I report all of them all the time and I guess they are still there, I see the same SH noob at high ents all the days and report him all the days, he is still there (I use he for everyone) I don't have to prove anything to you (or anyone else) Back to my original statement, RMT encourages SH. If you're selling item for real world money, it takes days to farm/produce said item (unless you're extremely lucky) while the SH user farms/produces it in a couple hours. If one of your goals is to make real world money in game, which is against the rules, you're more likely to SH/bot |
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Post by Shiruyui on Jul 25, 2015 20:42:54 GMT
And about the main thread discussion, I wish to know, what is the proper way to report a SH user, because I report all of them all the time and I guess they are still there, I see the same SH noob at high ents all the days and report him all the days, he is still there (I use he for everyone) In my reports, I try to put all the important information, such as the map name, mobs name, server, the time you witness him/her SH-ing and your time zone (it might be easier to track down the correct battle log time if you put your time zone). I usually put it like this: (He/She) is using Speedhack to kill (mob name) in (map name), (server number & name), at (time you witness him her using it), (your time zone). |
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