Post by Shiruyui on Jul 21, 2015 13:36:16 GMT
Dear irunian Community,
First of all, before reading this, please know that this is NOT a ranting thread. It is more like a message to the community.
I believe this may be important for everyone, pro players and newbies, fair players and hack users. It would be really appreciated if you can take 5 minutes of your time for this ^^. This thread is mainly about speedhacking, yes I know we are all fed up of everyone telling you to stop SH-ing and etc. However, this will and is different then the others. The first part is mainly directed to the SH users, second part to the fair players, but it wouldn't hurt to read all. I aim a lot at SH, but also to botting. Whenever I mention SH, think that I also refer it to bot.
Dear SH users,
(for those who doesn't know what SH is - A cheat used in the game that increases your movement/firing speed drastically, to the point of where it is impossible to kill you - the impossible to kill you part doesn't apply to iruna anyways). I understand your benefices for using it. Fast kills, fast running, fast exp, fast leveling, etc. However, you should know that using it doesn't affect only you but the whole iruna community. You can create map lags, make you/others disconnected, and even rollbacks. Yes, rollback mainly occured due to speedhack/hacks. Speedhacking creates an interference in the servers, which can block data packages that come from your device to the iruna servers. In other words, it can make you lose data. Need proof for that statement? Rollback only occured only in English server, and not Japan one. So it wasn't due to Asobimo's servers. From a few solid sources I got from some Japan players, there was way less Speedhacking there than in English iruna. So you can easily make the link between {a lot of speedhcking} and {rollback}... Of course, most of you don't care about the others, what only counts is you, right? But remember, it can affect everyone. It may be beneficial to you for now, but later, when another rollback occurs, it won't be fun. Who knows how many days it will go back to? 4? 1 week? Plenty of players lost 1 year worth of working, in spina for example. Some items can be restored this time, but who knows about next's? The end doesn't justify the way you do things.
Think about this. Why do you speedhack? For fast EXP/fast kills/fast running? So why does Asobimo makes "rules" about Attack Speed/Cast Time/Skill Delay/etc? Because the game would be boring if we all run/kill as fast as a cheetah, or if we can spam skills each 0.5 seconds. So why not try to play the game by the rules? From what I investigated with 47 (fair) players in iruna, they all appreciate it when they work hard, get better equips and get stronger! If you use SH, you are mainly ruining the fun and purpose of playing Iruna. It would be boring if it was that easy to level up, it is really fun to be satisfied when you level up with your hard work. If you use it because your guild makes you level (idk, example) 5 levels a week, I believe you are in the wrong guild. Iruna is a game for fun, if you don't have fun playing since you gotta grind 24/7, then you are in the wrong environment. (Not aiming at anyone/any guild).
I've met a certain player, he used to be a fair player and despised the SH, however, he started using it since he had to catch up with the rollback lost datas (exp-spina-etc) and because he was fed up of speedhackers. For everyone who enters in that category. If everyone around you takes drugs/do crimes (let's say they don't pressure you), would you do like them even if you know it is bad? I don't believe so. Yes the rollback has greatly affected certain players, but it still isn't right to use it. Imagine if everyone started to use it to gain back the lost stuffs from rollback. Another rollback has a high probability to occur, thus losing even more stuff. Of course it is annoying for not being able to catch a mob for 2mins due to speedhack. But remember, you can always report them & put pressure on Asobimo concerning the hacking penalty level. Using speedhack to "compete" with other speedhackers is defenitively not a good idea - you'd give up on everything you've been fighting for. Imagine if everyone would give into SHing. You may be thinking "oh well the others will quit, so there will be less SH, so I can still use it". Now, imagine if everyone thought like that. The number of SH will increase. That former fair player guy also gave into it since he said "it is useless if everyone does it, so why shouldn't I?" Rollback occured due to 1 small extra person, it could've been you, or your friend. Asobimo's servers has a limit for being able to handle a certain number of hacks. But keep hope & Remember, if everyone does bad stuff, doesn't mean you also should do like them. The end doesn't justify the way you do things. It is of course hard to get off from SH, get used to the original cast time/attack speed/skill delay etc, but never give up & you've made a great decision to stop using it. You'll get used to it, just give you time.
Now, for all the other fair players,
It is possible that all the Anti-SH talking doesn't affect them, weither because they are too close-minded, selfish or etc, you can still pressure them. For example, many great big guilds have banned hacks, such as Grail~Utopia, Angel of the Lords, Imminent, Heroes of War II, Knights of Blood, etc. You can also not deal (sell trade) with hack users. You can post their IGN + proof such as a video or a screenshot (preferably) that proves x player uses SH, on Facebook/here/any social networks used for communicating between players/guild members/etc. By doing that, they will lose a lot of advantages that a fair player has. Remember, there is always that Report button, it would help the Asobimo team if you include in your report the place-server-time & your time zone. Then they can search in their battle history until they find that precise time & verify if x reported player used SH or not. And you can always try to convince them by giving them arguments - and not insults, since if you get called "dumb" or "nub", of course you will not stop using it lol. You can also make a virtual petition for everyone who is totally against Hack users/fed up with that (like when rollback occured).
I've witnessed many people staying silent about Speedhacking, especially in group raids and power leveling groups. This time, you have enjoyed the consequences of SH for yourself, fast kills so fast leveling. However, you are as guilty as the SH user & contribute to aggravate the situation. But, you can change it by reporting him/her, you can still "enjoy" the consequences but by reporting, you are doing a great help to get rid of the SH community. In the old days, in beta, there was no hacking, then the new generations came and slowly brought that tool with them. At first, they were hiding it or saying it's interfike/skill delay gears, but it slowly became accepted. Why? Since none, or only a very few players told them it was wrong/tried to get them off hacking. As someone who witness x player using hacks, staying silent doesn't help, it only makes the situation worse. Linking this with reality. How do you think we got here? To this point in the society? A great part was due to revolutions, those brought changes and helped. How did those revolutions occur? People voiced their opinion out & out put pressure on their leaders, example, the american revolution. It wouldn't have happened if everyone stayed silent.
It indeed is hard to get someone off speedhacking, that player needs to get used to the regular speed, etc. However, imagine if you were to get 2 of your friends/guildies/stranger to stop speedhacking. Then your very 2 friends who got off from Hacking get 2 of their friends (each) to stop hacking. Then those 4 players get 2 friends each to stop hacking, etc. The number will go up exponentially in a short laps of time.
If you can't change the person itself, you can modify the environment, thus you can pressure him/her to change. Don't stay silent and act! For the Speedhackers/Botters/etc, reconsider your actions, is it really worth it? What about the consequences for short term/long term?
Thank you for reading this, dear irunian community. If you have an argument against SH-Hacks, or for the use of those hacks (?) you'd like to add, voice out your opinion politely. However, remember that it is NOT a ranting post, ranting isn't permitted by the Community Guidelines (rules). Unless you really need to rant, do it privately, if you do publicly here, assume the consequences that go along with it. Thank you again for reading n.n
Related topic video (about "fairness"), from quitted - thanks for the vid!
First of all, before reading this, please know that this is NOT a ranting thread. It is more like a message to the community.
I believe this may be important for everyone, pro players and newbies, fair players and hack users. It would be really appreciated if you can take 5 minutes of your time for this ^^. This thread is mainly about speedhacking, yes I know we are all fed up of everyone telling you to stop SH-ing and etc. However, this will and is different then the others. The first part is mainly directed to the SH users, second part to the fair players, but it wouldn't hurt to read all. I aim a lot at SH, but also to botting. Whenever I mention SH, think that I also refer it to bot.
Dear SH users,
(for those who doesn't know what SH is - A cheat used in the game that increases your movement/firing speed drastically, to the point of where it is impossible to kill you - the impossible to kill you part doesn't apply to iruna anyways). I understand your benefices for using it. Fast kills, fast running, fast exp, fast leveling, etc. However, you should know that using it doesn't affect only you but the whole iruna community. You can create map lags, make you/others disconnected, and even rollbacks. Yes, rollback mainly occured due to speedhack/hacks. Speedhacking creates an interference in the servers, which can block data packages that come from your device to the iruna servers. In other words, it can make you lose data. Need proof for that statement? Rollback only occured only in English server, and not Japan one. So it wasn't due to Asobimo's servers. From a few solid sources I got from some Japan players, there was way less Speedhacking there than in English iruna. So you can easily make the link between {a lot of speedhcking} and {rollback}... Of course, most of you don't care about the others, what only counts is you, right? But remember, it can affect everyone. It may be beneficial to you for now, but later, when another rollback occurs, it won't be fun. Who knows how many days it will go back to? 4? 1 week? Plenty of players lost 1 year worth of working, in spina for example. Some items can be restored this time, but who knows about next's? The end doesn't justify the way you do things.
Think about this. Why do you speedhack? For fast EXP/fast kills/fast running? So why does Asobimo makes "rules" about Attack Speed/Cast Time/Skill Delay/etc? Because the game would be boring if we all run/kill as fast as a cheetah, or if we can spam skills each 0.5 seconds. So why not try to play the game by the rules? From what I investigated with 47 (fair) players in iruna, they all appreciate it when they work hard, get better equips and get stronger! If you use SH, you are mainly ruining the fun and purpose of playing Iruna. It would be boring if it was that easy to level up, it is really fun to be satisfied when you level up with your hard work. If you use it because your guild makes you level (idk, example) 5 levels a week, I believe you are in the wrong guild. Iruna is a game for fun, if you don't have fun playing since you gotta grind 24/7, then you are in the wrong environment. (Not aiming at anyone/any guild).
I've met a certain player, he used to be a fair player and despised the SH, however, he started using it since he had to catch up with the rollback lost datas (exp-spina-etc) and because he was fed up of speedhackers. For everyone who enters in that category. If everyone around you takes drugs/do crimes (let's say they don't pressure you), would you do like them even if you know it is bad? I don't believe so. Yes the rollback has greatly affected certain players, but it still isn't right to use it. Imagine if everyone started to use it to gain back the lost stuffs from rollback. Another rollback has a high probability to occur, thus losing even more stuff. Of course it is annoying for not being able to catch a mob for 2mins due to speedhack. But remember, you can always report them & put pressure on Asobimo concerning the hacking penalty level. Using speedhack to "compete" with other speedhackers is defenitively not a good idea - you'd give up on everything you've been fighting for. Imagine if everyone would give into SHing. You may be thinking "oh well the others will quit, so there will be less SH, so I can still use it". Now, imagine if everyone thought like that. The number of SH will increase. That former fair player guy also gave into it since he said "it is useless if everyone does it, so why shouldn't I?" Rollback occured due to 1 small extra person, it could've been you, or your friend. Asobimo's servers has a limit for being able to handle a certain number of hacks. But keep hope & Remember, if everyone does bad stuff, doesn't mean you also should do like them. The end doesn't justify the way you do things. It is of course hard to get off from SH, get used to the original cast time/attack speed/skill delay etc, but never give up & you've made a great decision to stop using it. You'll get used to it, just give you time.
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Now, for all the other fair players,
It is possible that all the Anti-SH talking doesn't affect them, weither because they are too close-minded, selfish or etc, you can still pressure them. For example, many great big guilds have banned hacks, such as Grail~Utopia, Angel of the Lords, Imminent, Heroes of War II, Knights of Blood, etc. You can also not deal (sell trade) with hack users. You can post their IGN + proof such as a video or a screenshot (preferably) that proves x player uses SH, on Facebook/here/any social networks used for communicating between players/guild members/etc. By doing that, they will lose a lot of advantages that a fair player has. Remember, there is always that Report button, it would help the Asobimo team if you include in your report the place-server-time & your time zone. Then they can search in their battle history until they find that precise time & verify if x reported player used SH or not. And you can always try to convince them by giving them arguments - and not insults, since if you get called "dumb" or "nub", of course you will not stop using it lol. You can also make a virtual petition for everyone who is totally against Hack users/fed up with that (like when rollback occured).
I've witnessed many people staying silent about Speedhacking, especially in group raids and power leveling groups. This time, you have enjoyed the consequences of SH for yourself, fast kills so fast leveling. However, you are as guilty as the SH user & contribute to aggravate the situation. But, you can change it by reporting him/her, you can still "enjoy" the consequences but by reporting, you are doing a great help to get rid of the SH community. In the old days, in beta, there was no hacking, then the new generations came and slowly brought that tool with them. At first, they were hiding it or saying it's interfike/skill delay gears, but it slowly became accepted. Why? Since none, or only a very few players told them it was wrong/tried to get them off hacking. As someone who witness x player using hacks, staying silent doesn't help, it only makes the situation worse. Linking this with reality. How do you think we got here? To this point in the society? A great part was due to revolutions, those brought changes and helped. How did those revolutions occur? People voiced their opinion out & out put pressure on their leaders, example, the american revolution. It wouldn't have happened if everyone stayed silent.
It indeed is hard to get someone off speedhacking, that player needs to get used to the regular speed, etc. However, imagine if you were to get 2 of your friends/guildies/stranger to stop speedhacking. Then your very 2 friends who got off from Hacking get 2 of their friends (each) to stop hacking. Then those 4 players get 2 friends each to stop hacking, etc. The number will go up exponentially in a short laps of time.
If you can't change the person itself, you can modify the environment, thus you can pressure him/her to change. Don't stay silent and act! For the Speedhackers/Botters/etc, reconsider your actions, is it really worth it? What about the consequences for short term/long term?
Thank you for reading this, dear irunian community. If you have an argument against SH-Hacks, or for the use of those hacks (?) you'd like to add, voice out your opinion politely. However, remember that it is NOT a ranting post, ranting isn't permitted by the Community Guidelines (rules). Unless you really need to rant, do it privately, if you do publicly here, assume the consequences that go along with it. Thank you again for reading n.n
Related topic video (about "fairness"), from quitted - thanks for the vid!
Wish those guys had that sense of view. You set to atk sh and prob go sleep. Like for real? Lol? Don't bother playing then. I love this game i set alot of goals for myself have good friends I just dont want it to it go down anymore then it is. Hopefully we will bouce back from this I'm optimistic.
