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Post by hellarmys on May 16, 2015 21:09:10 GMT
Ok, so as far as i know agi > crit > str is the most viable build for this class on nail and i wanted to make it with grail. Alas, i do not know what equipment i could add to make this viable so any members with some knowledge under their belts help me if you can q_q
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Post by saratobi on May 17, 2015 23:18:30 GMT
Just so you know gladiator has 3 skills they learn that require you to use a sword. One is a passive skill.
-Sword mastery
-Pillar blade
-Tempest Sword
You cant use Pillar and Tempest without a sword and you wont benefit from sword mastery atk boost. Your build would have to be built around hard hit skill. Which is just weak and cannot do crt (astute is too slow)
So youd need to be all str and agi with no crt as it wouldn't benefit you much, youd need high dex for cool down and it wouldn't benefit ur dmg at all. Nobody would really want to party with you because it just wouldn't work.
Look up builds on this section for better ideas.
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Post by saratobi on May 18, 2015 0:50:05 GMT
Just so you know gladiator has 3 skills they learn that require you to use a sword. One is a passive skill. -Sword mastery -Pillar blade -Tempest Sword You cant use Pillar and Tempest without a sword and you wont benefit from sword mastery atk boost. Your build would have to be built around hard hit skill. Which is just weak and cannot do crt (astute is too slow) So youd need to be all str and agi with no crt as it wouldn't benefit you much, youd need high dex for cool down and it wouldn't benefit ur dmg at all. Nobody would really want to party with you because it just wouldn't work. Look up builds on this section for better ideas. lol, a nail build should focus on auto attacks, not the skill spams. The nail build should be agi/crt/vit or str, no point in adding dex. Overall, the agi/crt based glad is weaker than sword build, but it's up to the op how he/she wants to play. And since the stake knuckle was recently implemented, u can do normal sword build and just use this thing with berserk if u love nail weapons so much, it's dmg is based on str and crt Yeah your prob right i dunno how nail build would work but id imagine auto attack would be better. |
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Post by hellarmys on May 18, 2015 4:48:12 GMT
Just so you know gladiator has 3 skills they learn that require you to use a sword. One is a passive skill. -Sword mastery -Pillar blade -Tempest Sword You cant use Pillar and Tempest without a sword and you wont benefit from sword mastery atk boost. Your build would have to be built around hard hit skill. Which is just weak and cannot do crt (astute is too slow) So youd need to be all str and agi with no crt as it wouldn't benefit you much, youd need high dex for cool down and it wouldn't benefit ur dmg at all. Nobody would really want to party with you because it just wouldn't work. Look up builds on this section for better ideas. Keep in mind this is a solo class build so i dont really have intentions of partying with others. What I initially wanted was equipment ideas to help make this do-able |
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Post by hellarmys on May 18, 2015 4:53:53 GMT
Just so you know gladiator has 3 skills they learn that require you to use a sword. One is a passive skill. -Sword mastery -Pillar blade -Tempest Sword You cant use Pillar and Tempest without a sword and you wont benefit from sword mastery atk boost. Your build would have to be built around hard hit skill. Which is just weak and cannot do crt (astute is too slow) So youd need to be all str and agi with no crt as it wouldn't benefit you much, youd need high dex for cool down and it wouldn't benefit ur dmg at all. Nobody would really want to party with you because it just wouldn't work. Look up builds on this section for better ideas. lol, a nail build should focus on auto attacks, not the skill spams. The nail build should be agi/crt/vit or str, no point in adding dex. Overall, the agi/crt based glad is weaker than sword build, but it's up to the op how he/she wants to play. And since the stake knuckle was recently implemented, u can do normal sword build and just use this thing with berserk if u love nail weapons so much, it's dmg is based on str and crt so that leaves me with a new question; would i just go the normal sword welder build route as far as items or are there some interesting ones to make this a fun class as this was my main goal. Also, is it tradeable and if so how much s/ns. If not, where can i get it? |
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Post by saratobi on May 18, 2015 19:41:05 GMT
As pillar blade build im also solo. All i need is salt and im good. Can regen hp with regenerate skill, can even use it without the revita if u wait for ur hp to go below 10k and use skill, only lose half of ur already low hp, u get full hp within 1 min even without gladi revita. Only thing u cant regen is mp
I dunno just seems to me like the only benefit here would be auto atk u can just afk farm agro mobs. If u forgo hp and go agi u wont benefit from regenerate.
Thats 4 skills ur throwing away.
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Post by hellarmys on May 19, 2015 2:52:16 GMT
As pillar blade build im also solo. All i need is salt and im good. Can regen hp with regenerate skill, can even use it without the revita if u wait for ur hp to go below 10k and use skill, only lose half of ur already low hp, u get full hp within 1 min even without gladi revita. Only thing u cant regen is mp I dunno just seems to me like the only benefit here would be auto atk u can just afk farm agro mobs. If u forgo hp and go agi u wont benefit from regenerate. Thats 4 skills ur throwing away. This is just for fun im getting collaboration on what kind of nails and what other kinds of gear i can add onto said nail to make it somewhat as good as sword class but with auto attack damage that can rival the spammers. This is obviously a heavy plate and i don't think it's possible this is just to test it out and as of now stake nail is looking like the claw to beat |
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Post by saratobi on May 19, 2015 18:47:46 GMT
lol, a nail build should focus on auto attacks, not the skill spams. The nail build should be agi/crt/vit or str, no point in adding dex. Overall, the agi/crt based glad is weaker than sword build, but it's up to the op how he/she wants to play. And since the stake knuckle was recently implemented, u can do normal sword build and just use this thing with berserk if u love nail weapons so much, it's dmg is based on str and crt so that leaves me with a new question; would i just go the normal sword welder build route as far as items or are there some interesting ones to make this a fun class as this was my main goal. Also, is it tradeable and if so how much s/ns. If not, where can i get it? you can try magic sword build or special sword gladi, the builds would be way different as would a lot of the gears you would need (if you went magic sword gladi you would need int as it would buff your atk and dmg) - I have a friend who done magic gladi, I cant remember what gear he used but because of the large pool of INT and high dex with cool down gear he could spam astute before he got pillar, he done decent dmg too, would need crt too I believe. you should try it and fine out what you can do if your up for trying out different things, that way you can still do pillar while having a diff type of setup to the norm. Special sword gladi cant do crt as special swords lower dmg if you raise crt, not sure if anyone would try a special sword gladi, I know a few have tried magic swords though. |
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Post by sicknezz on May 29, 2015 20:03:40 GMT
imho ~ old schooler here...
i have tried a variant of build in the past
and to best to answer this debate if you wanna dodge/tanks all together
( again this is only for for fun and part farm mode )
str 330
vit 250
agi 140
crit 330
so you can both sword/nail weild if you want too..
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Post by hellarmys on Jun 2, 2015 5:50:24 GMT
imho ~ old schooler here... i have tried a variant of build in the past and to best to answer this debate if you wanna dodge/tanks all together ( again this is only for for fun and part farm mode ) str 330 vit 250 agi 140 crit 330 so you can both sword/nail weild if you want too.. well, initially, i wanted to see if a grail gladiator build could be made viable enough to be solo but there are things like claw+ where you can get more damage off it potentially. That was the main gola of the thread; to make a grail glad vianle for entertainment |
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Post by hellarmys on Jun 2, 2015 5:51:52 GMT
imho ~ old schooler here... i have tried a variant of build in the past and to best to answer this debate if you wanna dodge/tanks all together ( again this is only for for fun and part farm mode ) str 330 vit 250 agi 140 crit 330 so you can both sword/nail weild if you want too.. well, initially, i wanted to see if a grail gladiator build could be made viable enough to be solo but there are things like claw+ where you can get more damage off it potentially. That was the main gola of the thread; to make a grail glad vianle for entertainment so many spelling errors didnt read untill after the fact, my apologies. Vanile = viable because magic i guess though |
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