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Post by Mary on Apr 12, 2015 23:04:59 GMT
ok Roxzen and Tilt*Madara, I will give u evidence ^^ of bishop using bow . I should give evidence first on the very beginning,oh well it not that late. yes cheose xtal can be useful
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Post by Stacy's Mom on Apr 12, 2015 23:07:00 GMT
using wol, you lose out on 15% matk that could be gained from using a mezza. wol is useless here because your overall atk will be horrible, no agi = no aspd = horrible to even consider bow for autoattacking since the animation itself is long.
being able to put ice-cream on a hamburger doesn't mean we should.
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Post by Mary on Apr 12, 2015 23:08:23 GMT
using wol, you lose out on 15% matk that could be gained from using a mezza. wol is useless here because your overall atk will be horrible, no agi = no aspd = horrible to even consider bow for autoattacking since the animation itself is long. being able to put ice-cream on a hamburger doesn't mean we should. There will be aspd look over
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Post by Stacy's Mom on Apr 12, 2015 23:10:56 GMT
using wol, you lose out on 15% matk that could be gained from using a mezza. wol is useless here because your overall atk will be horrible, no agi = no aspd = horrible to even consider bow for autoattacking since the animation itself is long. being able to put ice-cream on a hamburger doesn't mean we should. There will be aspd look over % aspd won't work if your base aspd is horrible. just like WoL, it loses so much potential if your atk is bad.
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Aki
Community Contributor
bleh..
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Post by Aki on Apr 12, 2015 23:33:25 GMT
Cherose isnt a magical wol its a earthquake by atk chance. Well lets see wol really isnt worth it for a bish. You'd do more dmg with magical procs then physical dmg. With full blue red you can crit almost every hit and proc magical procs ofteb. Agi 40 you will be at max atk speed for all weps. So I don't think str and agi be good. Magical procs will be better in my opinion we werent ment to do physical dmg well but magic wise it be ok. I do use indigo 2 ifrit btw since matk is already nice Body hulam neme cherose add magia hood pole auto4 accessory auto3 Dragnewt mezza. This just my 2 cents.
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Post by Mary on Apr 12, 2015 23:36:01 GMT
There will be aspd look over % aspd won't work if your base aspd is horrible. just like WoL, it loses so much potential if your atk is bad. I see.
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Namitsuki
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Loving the Island Stalls. Good bye Rokoko.
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Post by Namitsuki on Apr 13, 2015 5:47:00 GMT
Sorry, Mary the only way i see this working is to build it like an Enchanter. You would need some AGI to reach max asp (only aspd% gear wont cut it, since its based on your current aspd, not a flat rate like crt rate) With max DEX you probably wont need CRT to hit things and since you won't rely on the physical part of your damage CRT wont be necessary for the critical damage multiplier. Besides that CRT won't help with the activation of Spellburst and WOL (and mage classes don't get the double attack passive so you won't need CRT for that neither) INT should be your priority over DEX since it raises more atk and also raises matk (double duty stat). Your damage would be mostly from spells and/or magic autoskills. So from here i see 2 ways: get gear with magic attack by attack chance and go auto-attack mode, or get gear with magic attack (counter) by defense chance and go spell user mode (btw for this one you don't really need AGI). The activation rate wont be as good as an enchanter's but if it proc enough to do better dps on bosses than nemesis you got yourself a solo farming set. On a last note, look how the stats end up looking like INT>DEX>VIT>AGI From my knowledge that is a regular bishop build (only adding a little AGI, specially if you can have an apostolia page for just purple lines) so you just ended up finding you can occasionally use weapons other than rods/staffs and throwing weapons. And since this build is also the Enchanter autoskill build (non-counter) you're not really limited to only using bows, any weapon that you have aspd to use will do. (But if you use mostly spells/counter autoskills and no AGI, there isn't any reason to use weapons other than staffs unless the weapon has a magic counter). Somehow this ended up longer than i expected, and I'm not sure if I got all the points across.
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Post by Mary on Apr 13, 2015 14:36:40 GMT
Namitsuki,I see your point (responded to it already) , I may be erroneous about stats, so I will look over. Ty
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Pixie
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Post by Pixie on Apr 14, 2015 20:51:04 GMT
id also like to point out that most magic bow proc rates are low unless you have enchanter buffs... so you may need to consider that as well. My build if i ever thought about doing it... Int max (increase support and matk dmg) Dex max (increase dmg with bows and hit rate) Agi 140~160 (faster attack speed=more damage) Rest in vit or just max agi for evasion. This would be okay for a healing support role with slight dmg on the side. The positive is your attacks don't waste mp and u can just heal/buff, the downside is you will lose a lot of dmg which may reflect in your ability to level or solo. I would maybe just use ctalpa bow with ifrit for matk%... though there may be better options. Dark priest robe with matk % xtal maybe shojo for +fire matk... Mir symbol ifrit, lotus seeds. You could get another set just for healing if u wanted to. All theory not tested nor implied a viable play through. Good luck
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