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Post by lacs on Apr 24, 2015 4:18:14 GMT
really? that's weird, i got 256 have you even tried it yourself?
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Apr 24, 2015 4:28:28 GMT
Firstly, Im not tank build. Im the autoskill build with lebenglanz. I maxed both red and blue in special stat. Without buff, 6 purple, 2 red lines, I have 1012 def. When I put one more blue, 1red, 2blue, and 5purple line, my def went down to 894, without buff. That is how I know.
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Post by lacs on Apr 24, 2015 4:52:46 GMT
i see the problem, yet if you can't see it, I'm not wasting my patience to tell you, you are misunderstanding, so please, stop giving bad information in the forum
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Apr 24, 2015 4:56:21 GMT
8 RED Lines + 100 stats on RD gives me 5400HP and 510DEF. I assume this is 1800HP and 170DEF on just 8 RED lines. Then you get +3600HP and +340DEF on 100 RD stats. I will need to verify this after I reset my stats but I'm pretty sure this is the case based on some information I received on the Al Chrysta thread in this forum. You get higher bonus on the first lines then smaller bonuses on the following lines but they will add up together. So it may be something like this: 1st Line - 400HP + 85DEF 2nd Line - 350HP + 43DEF 3rd Line - 300HP + 21DEF 4th Line - 250HP + 10DEF 5th Line - 200HP + 5DEF 6th Line - 150HP + 3DEF 7th Line - 100HP + 2DEF 8th Line - 50HP + 1DEF ------------------------------------------ Total: 1800HP + 170DEF This assumption was made based on what I have, in comparison to Jeancarlo screenies: irunaonline.boards.net/thread/7089/al-christa?page=8
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Apr 24, 2015 5:16:21 GMT
i won't invest on rgb at the moment, I'm using 100 on exp right now, and I'm only using 100 points on special stats, but i might use stefilys and go 50-50 on red (def) and blue (mdef) i want to be an impenetrable tank I don't think it is a good idea to invest half and half on apostolia. The RGB stats multiply the bonus you get from the lines you make so if you make less lines multiplied by less bonus then you get less value per stat you invest. Moreover, having more DEF/MDEF doesn't really make us impenetrable. This is why pallys like me switched from INT build to non-INT build and aim for more damage. In a sense, this is a form of mitigation instead of investing on DEF/MDEF for bosses because you take less hits by killing them faster. (e.g. if it normally takes 10 hits to kill the boss and you get 10 retaliations, cutting it down to 5 hits means you only take 5 retaliations, so you take less damage overall, plus you grind faster)
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Post by lacs on Apr 24, 2015 5:22:32 GMT
I'm still sure about the tank thing, i see your point, more atk and faster killing and stuff, but paladin was more a tank, if i wanted to make damage a gladiator was a better option, but I'm usually on pt with my gf, and I'm there to protect, she is the one dealing the heavy damage
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Apr 24, 2015 5:22:41 GMT
i see the problem, yet if you can't see it, I'm not wasting my patience to tell you, you are misunderstanding, so please, stop giving bad information in the forum Im sorry. I just understand your point, after I read your comment again.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Apr 24, 2015 6:05:13 GMT
I'm still sure about the tank thing, i see your point, more atk and faster killing and stuff, but paladin was more a tank, if i wanted to make damage a gladiator was a better option, but I'm usually on pt with my gf, and I'm there to protect, she is the one dealing the heavy damage Well of course it is player's preference whether to invest on INT or not. I'm just clarifying that you understood what DEF and MDEF does. Alot of pallys I encountered previously expected to be tanky by pumping DEF and MDEF only to be mutilated by bosses like Almas and end up being confused. In the end, there was nothing wrong with their build, it's just that they expected too much from something that they didn't understand.
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Post by Wilburg29 on May 28, 2015 13:03:17 GMT
Hello Guys!
I need HP gear to maximize my guardian damage so what gears should i use?
I'm a Lv197 paladin
Build - Vit Dex Str
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Yazmat
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Pally Lv351 | Alchy Lv318
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Post by Yazmat on May 28, 2015 13:41:52 GMT
Hello Guys! I need HP gear to maximize my guardian damage so what gears should i use? I'm a Lv197 paladin Build - Vit Dex Str See the first post of this thread ... => Pein's Guide
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Post by jaffet03 on Jul 30, 2015 22:01:43 GMT
sir can i ask im enchy but do know if the stats def . on status screen can rduce crt and special atck dmg?
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Post by bixdix on Nov 6, 2015 17:53:27 GMT
Hi... after read all the pages,I'm confused now... -.- ...
I'm at lvl 200 now,my build is :
- vit 322 - int 204 - dex 100
My apos : all red lines (not yet spend stat point on RLB)
I have 59 stat point atm to spend...
- should I spend my stat point on RLB first or dex first?
- with this build,better spec or magic sword?
- RLB boost red lines only or all lines who connect with red AI crysta?
Somehow I feel int not really helpful (but not really useless too..lol.. if I see from mana pool and healing amount side) since some mobs and boss magic type still dealing prety high dmg to my pally -.-... thx bfore...
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Nov 7, 2015 19:02:10 GMT
Hi... after read all the pages,I'm confused now... -.- ... I'm at lvl 200 now,my build is : - vit 322 - int 204 - dex 100 My apos : all red lines (not yet spend stat point on RLB) I have 59 stat point atm to spend... - should I spend my stat point on RLB first or dex first? - with this build,better spec or magic sword? - RLB boost red lines only or all lines who connect with red AI crysta? Somehow I feel int not really helpful (but not really useless too..lol.. if I see from mana pool and healing amount side) since some mobs and boss magic type still dealing prety high dmg to my pally -.-... thx bfore... Yes, indeed, int does not help much for magic boss, but it is still helpful for normal monsters grinding. For the detail about int, please check this (click here). Now let back to your questions. - should I spend my stat point on RLB first or dex first? If you prefer more hp and def, RD will boost it pretty well. If you prefer damage (and def with w.transer), Dex will be awesome. - with this build,better spec or magic sword? From the choice above, I would answer would transer(spec sword). Excepting adding int first, you might switch to magic sword, but you int is not pretty high due to having some dex, so this is not a good option. - RLB boost red lines only or all lines who connect with red AI crysta? Like the description in the game, each color will boost status which the line connect to the AI color. RD will boost red, purple, and yellow lines. GR will boost yellow, blue-green, and green lines. BL will boost blue-green, purple, and blue lines.
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Post by bixdix on Nov 7, 2015 23:36:07 GMT
Hi... after read all the pages,I'm confused now... -.- ... I'm at lvl 200 now,my build is : - vit 322 - int 204 - dex 100 My apos : all red lines (not yet spend stat point on RLB) I have 59 stat point atm to spend... - should I spend my stat point on RLB first or dex first? - with this build,better spec or magic sword? - RLB boost red lines only or all lines who connect with red AI crysta? Somehow I feel int not really helpful (but not really useless too..lol.. if I see from mana pool and healing amount side) since some mobs and boss magic type still dealing prety high dmg to my pally -.-... thx bfore... Yes, indeed, int does not help much for magic boss, but it is still helpful for normal monsters grinding. For the detail about int, please check this (click here). Now let back to your questions. - should I spend my stat point on RLB first or dex first? If you prefer more hp and def, RD will boost it pretty well. If you prefer damage (and def with w.transer), Dex will be awesome. - with this build,better spec or magic sword? From the choice above, I would answer would transer(spec sword). Excepting adding int first, you might switch to magic sword, but you int is not pretty high due to having some dex, so this is not a good option. - RLB boost red lines only or all lines who connect with red AI crysta? Like the description in the game, each color will boost status which the line connect to the AI color. RD will boost red, purple, and yellow lines. GR will boost yellow, blue-green, and green lines. BL will boost blue-green, purple, and blue lines. Got it... thx for clear and easy explanation... I know where to go now ... once again thx
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asura
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IGN: Mckan Enchanter lvl 210, Naotaka Future Ninja, Arrow Sniper lvl 223, Asura Future Paladin
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Post by asura on Dec 11, 2015 9:36:46 GMT
Umm hi there, im hav enchanter, sniper and ninja acc and now i want to try paladin. Based on the thread and some coments, i think that VIT-DEX-INT might be a balanced stat for dmg and tank pally. Im planning on using ama no habakiri II or w.trans, licht up ferzen II, Ideasol, and perhaps KG. Is it a right stat and gears? And do u think that it could work somehow for both dmg and tanking?
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