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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Feb 9, 2015 7:20:16 GMT
With latest gears and xtals its very possable to make old style beta/nail palladin at present i only have 19k hp but my atacks 1378 (debuffed) evades 530(enogh for megas) and high crit rate i wont share stats just yet as this is experimental.but i can safely say for lvl 181 its looking extreemly promising i say this because if with stat release and the option of more stats to use ie agi.crit.str.vit.int the possabilty of making an extreemy high def and dps tank is very plausable.every knows i love experimenting with builds ie 4 months ago lvl 225 ninja with 15k hp and sword went down very well.so im gona grind my ass of now ill keep post updated on how it goes wsh me luck lol love firefox Good luck with it. Although in my opinion, Apostolia's stat release is just so awesome that it sounds illogical not to use and get past max stat. Honestly, if we didn't have stat caps, I will only put it in 1 stat, and that is VIT. It will give me everything I need (damage, survivability, pwnage). I'm not so sure why people want Pally to have evasion. VIT build Pally will continue to grow its defenses and survivability that evasion becomes unnecessary. Becoming a Pally is like what Morpheus said to Neo in the Matrix: ========= NEO: Are you saying I can dodge bullets? MORPHEUS: No, Neo. I'm saying that when you are ready, you won't have to. ========= Anyway, the choice is yours, take the blue pill or the red pill.
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Post by hexan1981 on Feb 9, 2015 8:03:43 GMT
With latest gears and xtals its very possable to make old style beta/nail palladin at present i only have 19k hp but my atacks 1378 (debuffed) evades 530(enogh for megas) and high crit rate i wont share stats just yet as this is experimental.but i can safely say for lvl 181 its looking extreemly promising i say this because if with stat release and the option of more stats to use ie agi.crit.str.vit.int the possabilty of making an extreemy high def and dps tank is very plausable.every knows i love experimenting with builds ie 4 months ago lvl 225 ninja with 15k hp and sword went down very well.so im gona grind my ass of now ill keep post updated on how it goes wsh me luck lol love firefox Good luck with it. Although in my opinion, Apostolia's stat release is just so awesome that it sounds illogical not to use and get past max stat. Honestly, if we didn't have stat caps, I will only put it in 1 stat, and that is VIT. It will give me everything I need (damage, survivability, pwnage). I'm not so sure why people want Pally to have evasion. VIT build Pally will continue to grow its defenses and survivability that evasion becomes unnecessary. Becoming a Pally is like what Morpheus said to Neo in the Matrix: ========= NEO: Are you saying I can dodge bullets? MORPHEUS: No, Neo. I'm saying that when you are ready, you won't have to. ========= Anyway, the choice is yours, take the blue pill or the red pill. lol awsome metaphor and totaly agree pure max vit is best choice i chhose agi not just for evade althoigh helpfull but to use as atck boost for battle claw and also dps speed cuz at present my aspd is 1.200 i want to produce hp+evade+dps+ max almost interfike like speedsi proved in mq in pts that this build is very good for fast mobs like geral and even slow ones like zimov where only his m.atcks hit thus sustaining less dmg.for lvl 183 now just did a little more mq hehe its good for early lvls ^^ also as a tester i joined a mezza farm with very littl dmg i kinda shocked myself tbh.i always regreted turning fox into a ninja took the fun outa party play. If by lvl 220 i have 50k hp id be extreemy pleased as evade will also be 600 minimum at this point.i noticed somthing wierd at mezza though my parry kicked in even while evading the whole pt was like wtf lol
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Feb 9, 2015 9:13:46 GMT
lol awsome metaphor and totaly agree pure max vit is best choice i chhose agi not just for evade althoigh helpfull but to use as atck boost for battle claw and also dps speed cuz at present my aspd is 1.200 i want to produce hp+evade+dps+ max almost interfike like speedsi proved in mq in pts that this build is very good for fast mobs like geral and even slow ones like zimov where only his m.atcks hit thus sustaining less dmg.for lvl 183 now just did a little more mq hehe its good for early lvls ^^ also as a tester i joined a mezza farm with very littl dmg i kinda shocked myself tbh.i always regreted turning fox into a ninja took the fun outa party play. If by lvl 220 i have 50k hp id be extreemy pleased as evade will also be 600 minimum at this point.i noticed somthing wierd at mezza though my parry kicked in even while evading the whole pt was like wtf lol Ok cool, so long as you are having fun with it. I realize that spamming Guardian can sore your fingers so there is indeed a desire to build an auto. I just thought that Berserker build will provide better results because of higher DPS (especially versus Dark) together with Stun Parry. I don't think Stun Parry procs with evasion (because I believe it only procs when Parry procs, and you have to be hit with that). We can test further but I'm too lazy busy to do it. Well Berserker build or AGI/CRT/VIT (you don't really need to spread stat to others) HP depends on how much VIT you put in versus your LvL. I'm currently Lv259 with 382 VIT and it lands me at around 51kHP base (no buffs nor HP gear). From memory, when I reset around Lv230+, VIT1 is around 5k+HP.
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Post by SoulBurn on Feb 10, 2015 2:56:28 GMT
is it worth boost red line to 100 point at Special stats (apostolia) after got all 5 red al xtal?
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Post by axewound on Feb 16, 2015 15:58:46 GMT
So I am new and experimenting with my build, I'm lvl 150.
Stats are :
VIT 256 DEX 140 INT 64
So far I have 2 kits
One tank kit Katz 2 + 8 20%hp xtal Saltus UP + 8 20% hp xtal Grecia Helm + 8 20% hp xtal Knight Gauntlet NS
Tank kit stats HP 41173 MP 1297 ATK 1206 MDEF 330 DEF 506
One DPS kit Ama no habikiri + 9 schlingel xtal Licht armour + 8 schlingel xtal Granvia Shield + 8 schlingel xtal Knight gauntlet NS
DPS Kit stats HP 23752 MP 1236 ATK 1606 MDEF 657 DEF 557
The DPS kit allows spamming of hard hit with licht bonus and the proc from ama no habikiri gives nice boost.
Any suggestions are welcome.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Feb 16, 2015 21:06:17 GMT
So I am new and experimenting with my build, I'm lvl 150. Stats are : VIT 256 DEX 140 INT 4 So far I have 2 kits One tank kit Katz 2 + 8 20%hp xtal Saltus UP + 8 20% hp xtal Grecia Helm + 8 20% hp xtal Knight Gauntlet NS Tank kit stats HP 41173 MP 1297 ATK 1206 MDEF 330 DEF 506 One DPS kit Ama no habikiri + 9 schlingel xtal Licht armour + 8 schlingel xtal Granvia Shield + 8 schlingel xtal Knight gauntlet NS DPS Kit stats HP 23752 MP 1236 ATK 1606 MDEF 657 DEF 557 The DPS kit allows spamming of hard hit with licht bonus and the proc from ama no habikiri gives nice boost. Any suggestions are welcome. Idealsol and maybe quick cool for your tank set In anticipation of guardian skill. you are also big enuff to finish your mq solo, so do It and get guardian and apostolia.
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Post by lacs on Apr 22, 2015 17:33:26 GMT
why don't you try over cap stats? my build is 364 int, 361 vit, 36 dex, (100 to exp) and i use a magic sword, the dim sword VI.
stats fully buffed are
hp>108k atk≈1800 def≈1250 mdef≈2250
also on apostolia, I'm focusing on all the def, i have 1 blue line and 1 red line for max def and mdef, 2 atk lines, 2matk lines (i use viola for counter magic, dealing 6k) and 2 autoskill lines (increasing all the counters)
i don't know if this works as reference, but i was able to tank raton 2 on pt without dying
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Post by mokie on Apr 23, 2015 4:47:24 GMT
why don't you try over cap stats? my build is 364 int, 361 vit, 36 dex, (100 to exp) and i use a magic sword, the dim sword VI. stats fully buffed are hp>108k atk≈1800 def≈1250 mdef≈2250 also on apostolia, I'm focusing on all the def, i have 1 blue line and 1 red line for max def and mdef, 2 atk lines, 2matk lines (i use viola for counter magic, dealing 6k) and 2 autoskill lines (increasing all the counters) i don't know if this works as reference, but i was able to tank raton 2 on pt without dying You are misunderstand about apostolia,I think.More lines mean more stat on its color. If you focus on def, 8red lines will give you the most.
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Post by lacs on Apr 23, 2015 12:32:46 GMT
yeah but no, I'm focussing on both def, when the number of uses reaches 600, a new page will be unlocked, do you know how much def does 8 red lines give? it has less than 2 times 1 line, same goes to blue line, when i unlock the next page, i will have 2 times one line, that maxes all the defenses
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Post by lacs on Apr 23, 2015 12:39:43 GMT
also, adds some others stats, if i had focussed only on def, and the next page only on mdef, the bonuses will be lower, with less atk and stuff, apostolia really makes you think if focussing only in one stat is good, it works for bish and hw, using max magic atk, but it is different for other classes
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Apr 23, 2015 19:54:36 GMT
yeah but no, I'm focussing on both def, when the number of uses reaches 600, a new page will be unlocked, do you know how much def does 8 red lines give? it has less than 2 times 1 line, same goes to blue line, when i unlock the next page, i will have 2 times one line, that maxes all the defenses Did you try 8 red lines, yet? I'm sure now. You are misunderstanding it. 1 line gives you about 10def or less, I'm nor sure, but 8 lines will give 256 def.
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Post by lacs on Apr 23, 2015 20:30:35 GMT
1 line HP + 800, DEF + 256, HP natural recovery +48 2 line HP + 700, DEF + 128, HP natural recovery +42 3-line HP + 600, DEF + 64, HP natural recovery +36 4 line HP + 500, DEF + 32, HP natural recovery +30 5 line HP + 400, DEF + 16, HP natural recovery +24 6 line HP + 300, DEF + 8, HP natural recovery +18 7 line HP + 200, DEF + 4, HP natural recovery +12 8 line HP + 100, DEF + 2, HP natural recovery +
1 line ads 256
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Apr 23, 2015 22:21:28 GMT
yeah but no, I'm focussing on both def, then the number of uses reaches 600, a new page will be unlocked, do you know how much def does 8 red lines give? it has less than 2 times 1 line, same goes to blue line, when i unlock the next page, i will have 2 times one line, that maxes all the defenses Extra page comes at 500. Im 5 Ignites shy to 600 so I wouldnt know for sure but Im expecting the duration cap of 300 to be released to 600secs. Tomorrow we will know. yes It is correct that the lines give diminishing returns so I guess Its not so bad to split colors If you dont plan to Invest on RLB. edit: I read the jp wiki wrong, It takes 2000 ignites to release 600sec cap. 600ignites does nothing.
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Post by lacs on Apr 23, 2015 23:59:51 GMT
i won't invest on rgb at the moment, I'm using 100 on exp right now, and I'm only using 100 points on special stats, but i might use stefilys and go 50-50 on red (def) and blue (mdef) i want to be an impenetrable tank
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Post by mokie on Apr 24, 2015 4:15:33 GMT
1 line HP + 800, DEF + 256, HP natural recovery +48 2 line HP + 700, DEF + 128, HP natural recovery +42 3-line HP + 600, DEF + 64, HP natural recovery +36 4 line HP + 500, DEF + 32, HP natural recovery +30 5 line HP + 400, DEF + 16, HP natural recovery +24 6 line HP + 300, DEF + 8, HP natural recovery +18 7 line HP + 200, DEF + 4, HP natural recovery +12 8 line HP + 100, DEF + 2, HP natural recovery + 1 line ads 256 That is why you misunderstanding. That is wrong information that gets from translation. If you read some comment, they said it works inversely. So, 1line gives only 2def.
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