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Post by Midnight on Nov 24, 2014 8:17:18 GMT
You should have read crazybrker's enchanter guide for int agi vit build. Since you almost have the same build.
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lilac
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i will play toram when there's more classes.
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Post by lilac on Nov 25, 2014 15:03:57 GMT
question. if you build int vit agi, when will you kill something? your accuracy sux to the bottom and your counter chance sux too because of evasion. just wondering~
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Post by Midnight on Nov 26, 2014 6:19:49 GMT
question. if you build int vit agi, when will you kill something? your accuracy sux to the bottom and your counter chance sux too because of evasion. just wondering~ did you even read the guide? 1. this is for enchanters that uses crit rate instead of dex for accuracy. pramia, ultimi, doggie ears, tech abilities will make sure that you hit. 2. claw enchanters are most likely not counter type. they use autoskill chance per atk.
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Post by wesly on Nov 26, 2014 7:06:26 GMT
my enchanter =3= pramia stil the best choice for claw enchanter on eng now /-\
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lilac
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i will play toram when there's more classes.
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Post by lilac on Nov 26, 2014 7:57:00 GMT
question. if you build int vit agi, when will you kill something? your accuracy sux to the bottom and your counter chance sux too because of evasion. just wondering~ did you even read the guide? 1. this is for enchanters that uses crit rate instead of dex for accuracy. pramia, ultimi, doggie ears, tech abilities will make sure that you hit. 2. claw enchanters are most likely not counter type. they use autoskill chance per atk. i don't want to argue. update the thread when you get there. i was a crt rate enchanter too before i discover my flaw.
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Post by Midnight on Nov 26, 2014 8:13:01 GMT
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Post by hellarmy on Nov 27, 2014 7:06:40 GMT
Thanks for the help you all, I consider my question answered and this thread is officially closed.
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Post by Tyranull on Nov 27, 2014 14:41:18 GMT
question. if you build int vit agi, when will you kill something? your accuracy sux to the bottom and your counter chance sux too because of evasion. just wondering~ did you even read the guide? 1. this is for enchanters that uses crit rate instead of dex for accuracy. pramia, ultimi, doggie ears, tech abilities will make sure that you hit. 2. claw enchanters are most likely not counter type. they use autoskill chance per atk. Legitimate counter enhancers are nail users. Just saying.
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Post by Midnight on Nov 28, 2014 1:56:31 GMT
did you even read the guide? 1. this is for enchanters that uses crit rate instead of dex for accuracy. pramia, ultimi, doggie ears, tech abilities will make sure that you hit. 2. claw enchanters are most likely not counter type. they use autoskill chance per atk. Legitimate counter enhancers are nail users. Just saying. yep you use judgement forgot about that one. was thinkin only of pramia as the build thread was not for counter my bad.
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Post by absolutezero12 on Nov 28, 2014 17:09:41 GMT
This may be a newbish question on my part, but was Grail ever considered as a "claw" enchanter weapon choice by anyone? I know the -50% ATK seems to be a bit of a turn-off, but the Ice Spear auto (supposedly) supposedly deals x3 the damage of the conventional attack. And because Enchanters from what I gather will focus on Autoskill percentage and MATK over the damage of the weapon itself (excluding the autos it may carry). Not sure if anyone is tested this weapon on Enchanter but if so, may you please share your experiences? As a separate note I (myself HAS experienced this) learned that Grail's proc damage CAN CRIT.
And I haven't the slightest clue about what this Primia whatsit weapon is or it's stats/abilities. Can someone include them here please?
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Post by absolutezero12 on Nov 28, 2014 17:19:17 GMT
And can someone cue me in on this "Dialan" scythe thing? I apologize for the ignorance, but due to work/school/etc, I can't keep up with everything all the time. I'm an 123 aspiring Enchanter, so I'd like as much info as possible before I decide on what route I'd like to go with it.
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Post by Tyranull on Nov 29, 2014 0:00:40 GMT
This may be a newbish question on my part, but was Grail ever considered as a "claw" enchanter weapon choice by anyone? I know the -50% ATK seems to be a bit of a turn-off, but the Ice Spear auto (supposedly) supposedly deals x3 the damage of the conventional attack. And because Enchanters from what I gather will focus on Autoskill percentage and MATK over the damage of the weapon itself (excluding the autos it may carry). Not sure if anyone is tested this weapon on Enchanter but if so, may you please share your experiences? As a separate note I (myself HAS experienced this) learned that Grail's proc damage CAN CRIT. And I haven't the slightest clue about what this Primia whatsit weapon is or it's stats/abilities. Can someone include them here please? Dude, I have been telling people this since Grail came out, But yet nobody has ever believed me. But this here surprises me. I swear... But I honestly believe this weapon has the greatest potential, If the build of the enchanter is Agi Crt Dex.
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elias
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The strength of a knight, the wisdom of a wizard. I am a magic warrior, I am an Enchanter!
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Post by elias on Nov 29, 2014 1:58:39 GMT
This may be a newbish question on my part, but was Grail ever considered as a "claw" enchanter weapon choice by anyone? I know the -50% ATK seems to be a bit of a turn-off, but the Ice Spear auto (supposedly) supposedly deals x3 the damage of the conventional attack. And because Enchanters from what I gather will focus on Autoskill percentage and MATK over the damage of the weapon itself (excluding the autos it may carry). Not sure if anyone is tested this weapon on Enchanter but if so, may you please share your experiences? As a separate note I (myself HAS experienced this) learned that Grail's proc damage CAN CRIT. And I haven't the slightest clue about what this Primia whatsit weapon is or it's stats/abilities. Can someone include them here please? Dude, I have been telling people this since Grail came out, But yet nobody has ever believed me. But this here surprises me. I swear... But I honestly believe this weapon has the greatest potential, If the build of the enchanter is Agi Crt Dex. The best potential of Grail will come out when Grail III is released, because ATK-50% becomes ATK-10%. This will lead to an awesome attack autoskill *-* of course, only for agi/crt users, as you said.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Nov 29, 2014 2:21:31 GMT
Dude, I have been telling people this since Grail came out, But yet nobody has ever believed me. But this here surprises me. I swear... But I honestly believe this weapon has the greatest potential, If the build of the enchanter is Agi Crt Dex. The best potential of Grail will come out when Grail III is released, because ATK-50% becomes ATK-10%. This will lead to an awesome attack autoskill *-* of course, only for agi/crt users, as you said. Pretty darn hard to get a 2slot Grail which is what turned me off. It's from a rare mob that has nothing to do with missions and people rarely farm it for xtal so the probability of a Grail 2s in the market gets very low. This is the primary reason why I didn't even bother to test it.
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Post by absolutezero12 on Nov 29, 2014 17:16:45 GMT
Hmm…In my opinion AGI>CRIT>DEX is just terrible unless you're a monk or ninja maybe. Building an Enchanter around a single weapon isn't something I would think of as a good idea. IMO Enchanter INT below 200 is unacceptable. I would think of as an "ideal" build for Grail as something like: INT>CRIT>AGI(maybe 160~180ish?) and the rest of it DEX. Or you could max CRIT and sit on 200 INT.
Enchanters gain attack passives based on your INT, so maxing AGI seems rather pointless, so as long as you can evade most physical attacks. Because I believe Enchanter gains most of its damage through multiple procs, one alone is a gamble, unless you know it will go off every time (which is why I assume this Magic Blade build is so deadly, damage aside).
My take on the 2s, I haven't been playing long enough to understand the concept behind gear with multiple slots. While xtals are nice, I don't believe I understand the actual power behind one single xtal and the difference it can truly make.
The only reason I brought this to subject is because I saw videos of Enchanters and I didn't particularly like what I saw performance-wise in terms of damage. It's not that I expect for enchanter to be dealing samurai-level damage, but I somehow felt I could push it further. A buddy had given me the Grail claw, I wasn't impressed by the attack cut. But after trying it for lulz, I was SHOCKED at the Proc damage. So I wondered if this might be something workable, with Enchanter's Autoskill benefits. I actually got lucky on a Dark Warrior once and got a proc almost every time, despite the absence of any autoskill rate influence and tore it apart. The only thing currently bothering me about it is the proc is directly affected by ATK (I think) rather than MATK. So if you're fighting a boss/mob that has rock-hard DEF, you're going to have a bad time.
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