Flarius
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What do people do with all the extra time they save by writing "K" instead of "OK"?
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Post by Flarius on Mar 17, 2014 9:31:55 GMT
after reading this enchanter thread, im startin to think dat all enchanter user is all mathematics and physics expertise ,,do u have like super processor in ur brains? psssstt: enchanters and assassins are for genius!!!! silent assassins passin by.....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2014 11:30:10 GMT
i see dps enchanter as magical assassin and tank enchanter as magical paladin. i treat myself as an assassin. i dont buff myself when farming so there's no crash-bang-boom magics all over when im attacking. just like an assassin. high evasion just like an assassin. critical damage just like an assassin. soon, illness hit skill will have the exact animation as your backstab so yes. another just like assassin.
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tasm
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Post by tasm on Mar 17, 2014 13:27:19 GMT
Enchanter can compare to assassin, but, unless, there's a successful method to keep the aggro, paladin > enchanter.
Tank enchanter isn't really tank, more like aspires to solo entire game. But that's an impossible venture atm and will be until at least 250-ish cap (so maybe some months away). And even then, it'll take some serious effort to pull off. o.o
Doesn't help that all are skills want high cooldown when spam stoneskin is key to enchanter survival.
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Post by ManaKhe on Mar 18, 2014 6:47:31 GMT
I think tanking on enchanter would require high vit, that one hammer upgrade, auto provoke xtal, and a kaphar xtal or two. Main issue I find is keeping hate from snipers and really heal happy bishops. It can also be pretty inconsistent but I think with the proper hate rise gear it won't be.
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tasm
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Post by tasm on Mar 18, 2014 11:20:48 GMT
I think tanking on enchanter would require high vit, that one hammer upgrade, auto provoke xtal, and a kaphar xtal or two. Main issue I find is keeping hate from snipers and really heal happy bishops. It can also be pretty inconsistent but I think with the proper hate rise gear it won't be. I've tried this and still lose the aggro. Two kaphar, provoke, pumpkin hammer (switching between a second provoke on one rabbit ear and a oni hachigane kaphar). Hate rise % is barely noticeable. Not sure if its ailments like paralysis which cause the problem or if something like crit'ing every hit would draw more hate, though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 12:31:55 GMT
i lose aggro very very easily. that's one of my weakness but hey, who actually is perfect?
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Post by ManaKhe on Mar 18, 2014 19:40:13 GMT
Hmm. I still only really have trouble with snipers mainly. Hwiz usually don't steal hate from me and I haven't tanked with an assassin. Most other DPS don't steal hate much. I don't have any kaphar either. Do you have max ASPD and Provoke Auto?
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Post by ManaKhe on Mar 18, 2014 19:44:36 GMT
I'm also not very experienced with tanking so don't take what I say on it super seriously haha. I mostly try to stick to fire/water/wind/earth bosses so I miss out on a lot of bosses.
Fun fact: Medalbrow is hard to tank at the beginning and easy at the end for chanters lol.
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tasm
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Post by tasm on Mar 19, 2014 6:50:07 GMT
I'm also not very experienced with tanking so don't take what I say on it super seriously haha. Is mostly try to stick to fire/water/wind/earth bosses so I miss out on a lot of bosses. Fun fact: Medalbrow is hard to tank at the beginning and easy at the end for chanters lol. Brow likes to start with 16k hits right @ the beginning =.=
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Post by ManaKhe on Mar 19, 2014 21:14:48 GMT
Yeah. I think he is the hardest boss for enchanters to tank. Except for maybe Sianas and the gods. Asimov too maybe? I haven't tried him but he is fire element so I doubt he will be too bad.
I love how people talked about how hard Slebinia was gonna be when almost all the bosses are pretty easy.
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tasm
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Post by tasm on Mar 19, 2014 21:25:29 GMT
Eh I can only solo rossam, but your soloing jabek leaves some promise with agi/vit combinations. I just worry about dmg as the enemies keep increasing the sze of their hp bars.
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Post by ManaKhe on Mar 20, 2014 5:31:13 GMT
Meh I gotta try out Jabek again. I'm starting to think I was lucky and he decided not to crit me. I know I used wind origin because I guessed he was wind lol but he is neutral. I have about 13.5k hp while using HP gear with Plate armor instead of Iron up so it isn't anything crazy yet.
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Post by ManaKhe on Mar 20, 2014 5:44:56 GMT
Nah I remember now. I shouldn't have said solo lol. Idk why I did. I can tank without heals though. I think I said I could tank without heals at first.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2014 8:18:02 GMT
solo. this is out of my territory so im not gonna talk. as long as i can do current mq, next mq & another 5 mq, im happy.
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tasm
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Post by tasm on Mar 20, 2014 13:03:01 GMT
Nah I remember now. I shouldn't have said solo lol. Idk why I did. I can tank without heals though. I think I said I could tank without heals at first. Eh, tbh I think the solo'ing all boss as enchanter is impossible. It's some of the reason I complain about the ratio of tank enchanter to dps enchanter, when dps is correct build as per what I've learned so far. Honestly, I expect to be the odd one out with a tank build, but it turns out differently. Just waiting on some future updates. 'Cause so far, I've managed to out tank newbie Paladin under lv 140, but that's the limit. Jst can't hold the aggro. Solo is a little different, though. It just falls to tanking when I realize I can't perform solo @ all. My buddy actually removed majority of his int from enchanter cause he found it a pain to continually recast buffs for instable dmg through additional atks. Lowered his strength, but improved his consistency enough that it's roughly the same overall as before.
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