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Post by itoffee on Nov 10, 2014 6:26:57 GMT
Whoever owns both of them may I ask who deals the higher magic damage with the same matk?
I now someone posted 10k damage for pramia but was this tested on dialan with same matk?
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Post by Cerulean on Nov 13, 2014 17:15:42 GMT
They won't have the same matk because pramia is a claw type abs dialan is a magic sword so you'll get more matk with dialan. And itll also depend on the enemy, while pramia is fire and dialan is water. They would have to be used differently to maximize damage output so there's no clear winner
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Post by Dark§tØrm on Nov 13, 2014 19:54:21 GMT
Is difficult to compare both because Dialan MATK not only depends from your MATK but also your AGI. In my case Dialan deals a little more damage, but normal ATK is much higher with Dialan. BTW im talking from mage side, warrior may think different.
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Post by itoffee on Nov 14, 2014 14:58:20 GMT
I just wanna know which weapin has the better scaling magic attack with MATK.
Right now i have 1986 math with my dialan scythe magic procing 6-7k.
I know pramia needs alot of money to reach 2k matk a d dialan scythe is cheaper.but for future reference and guide to fellow enchys i just want to make a comparison.
I might deal 6-7k with my dialan but pramia procs faster due to faster attack animation
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Post by Cerulean on Nov 14, 2014 16:19:31 GMT
They differ to much, use them as situational like pram for high ents dialan for nommers for elemental boost. As an enchant you should always use those to your advantage
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Post by ManaKhe on Nov 15, 2014 6:48:03 GMT
Dailan is better than Pramia in pretty much all situations, or at least equal. I've used both when I was autoskill build. On Earth and Water mobs they do close to the same, I think Dailan does slightly more. Dailan is waaay better on Fire mobs and also better on anything else. So if you are gonna go out of your way to get either of them Dailan is the better choice.
When it comes to Autoskill builds(not including Staff builds) in order from best to worse its:
Dailan Scythe>Pramia>Laevatein>Dia Espada
You also won't get the same MATK with Dailan and Pramia xD. To give you numbers uh...Spell Boosted Fire Origin Pramia did about 12k on Ents with Fire Lance. Dailan did about the same with water and spell boost on the same mob. Also Enchant Weapon did a lot more damage with Dailan scythe due to the like 800 MATK difference lol.
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Post by itoffee on Nov 21, 2014 1:24:43 GMT
To dialan users who hates missing due to -15% accuracy penalty from weapon, i got a solution.
Xeltysis crysta.critical rate +75 melee up by lvl -9% crit damage.
Combined with dialan i got 100 crit dealing 2k each. I find my autoskills more stable now that im hitting every swing compared to missing.(tested with danmar)
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Post by Aroxis on Dec 9, 2014 0:16:24 GMT
Dailan is better than Pramia in pretty much all situations, or at least equal. I've used both when I was autoskill build. On Earth and Water mobs they do close to the same, I think Dailan does slightly more. Dailan is waaay better on Fire mobs and also better on anything else. So if you are gonna go out of your way to get either of them Dailan is the better choice. When it comes to Autoskill builds(not including Staff builds) in order from best to worse its: Dailan Scythe>Pramia>Laevatein>Dia Espada You also won't get the same MATK with Dailan and Pramia xD. To give you numbers uh...Spell Boosted Fire Origin Pramia did about 12k on Ents with Fire Lance. Dailan did about the same with water and spell boost on the same mob. Also Enchant Weapon did a lot more damage with Dailan scythe due to the like 800 MATK difference lol. Thats odd.....My spell boosted on ents is almost 17.5k. Is pramia have like metalbrow xtal and dailan have gerust? XD |
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Post by ManaKhe on Dec 9, 2014 4:01:00 GMT
Dailan is better than Pramia in pretty much all situations, or at least equal. I've used both when I was autoskill build. On Earth and Water mobs they do close to the same, I think Dailan does slightly more. Dailan is waaay better on Fire mobs and also better on anything else. So if you are gonna go out of your way to get either of them Dailan is the better choice. When it comes to Autoskill builds(not including Staff builds) in order from best to worse its: Dailan Scythe>Pramia>Laevatein>Dia Espada You also won't get the same MATK with Dailan and Pramia xD. To give you numbers uh...Spell Boosted Fire Origin Pramia did about 12k on Ents with Fire Lance. Dailan did about the same with water and spell boost on the same mob. Also Enchant Weapon did a lot more damage with Dailan scythe due to the like 800 MATK difference lol. Thats odd.....My spell boosted on ents is almost 17.5k. Is pramia have like metalbrow xtal and dailan have gerust? XD I was using 3 FGs when I was auto build. I could be remembering wrong too :/ I know for certain that the damage is very similar on Ents though. |
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Post by Rendet on Dec 20, 2014 0:36:58 GMT
Another solution to not miss with dialan is to use ze spec eq Gauntlet+
Its stats are: hit up by dex with sword, hp+10% and atk+30 if im not mistaken
With this, its like not having ze accuracy-10% that dialan gives
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Post by itoffee on Dec 27, 2014 9:09:36 GMT
I made an almost legit comparison between them. By reaching 2.2k matk with pramia via spellboostand fire origin i reach 12k+ fire lance.with dialan reaching 2k flat matk im dealing 11k with a fire mob. I think its the same but im dealing higher dmage with dialan+ifrit ( 9 secs high ent =16k dmg) than pramia+ifrit( 15 secs high ent =12k dmg). I dont think faster animation of claws has better proc rate.
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Post by Kirin。 on Jan 1, 2015 3:15:57 GMT
I made an almost legit comparison between them. By reaching 2.2k matk with pramia via spellboostand fire origin i reach 12k+ fire lance.with dialan reaching 2k flat matk im dealing 11k with a fire mob. I think its the same but im dealing higher dmage with dialan+ifrit ( 9 secs high ent =16k dmg) than pramia+ifrit( 15 secs high ent =12k dmg). I dont think faster animation of claws has better proc rate. Yes aspd has a more relevance to proc rate of autoskills than the animation and also aspd for both claw and swrd is the same. And also did you put ifrit on pramia/dialan? If so you might want to remove it and place it on other equip as ifrit consumes autoskill for both weapons  and last thing thank you for this thread im having second thought on the selection of weapons but so far i cant seem to know if dialan is better than pramia  |
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Post by itoffee on Jan 10, 2015 9:06:17 GMT
Oh im sorry. I have gerust on dialan. Mir sym/ifrit. Its just that dialan procs ice lance lvl3 and ifrit procs fire lance lvl 3.
Look at this guy omg
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Post by meizi on Feb 4, 2015 1:02:16 GMT
Hi all whats the stat of dailan? I cant seemed to find it at jap wiki. Where do you guys find most of these new stuff? I cannot even get stats of gold armor in jap wiki. (using jap wiki as my main reference, is there better ones ? )
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Post by ☪Ⓛⓐⓩⓘ on Feb 4, 2015 16:32:35 GMT
Hi all whats the stat of dailan? I cant seemed to find it at jap wiki. Where do you guys find most of these new stuff? I cannot even get stats of gold armor in jap wiki. (using jap wiki as my main reference, is there better ones ? ) Dialan Scythe: MATK+150, CRT+25, Accuracy rate -15%, Effect slightly changes if AGI>127, Magic Sword |
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and last thing thank you for this thread im having second thought on the selection of weapons but so far i cant seem to know if dialan is better than pramia 
