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Post by Umaru-chan on Jan 9, 2015 2:40:19 GMT
Umaru-chanIf you go INT VIT DEX, you are a counter Enchanter that will eventually become an Mblade spammer at 220. For this Resty is probably pretty good considering getting maximum MATK would be nice from it. Any AGI on a counter build seems pointless to me since a very large majority of your damage will come from Counters not auto attacking unless you get your AGI to 135, use Dailan Scythe/Pramia/Earth Geiser/Dia Espada, and gear for Auto attack. You are an auto attacker at that point. AGI will do nothing for a counter enchanter in the long run. Basically go either Counter Enchanter OR Auto attack. You can't really do both effectively(sorta but I see counter as more of a precursor to Mblade spam at which point AGI is pretty much a bad thing). What i meant for this is that is it better for me to spam wizard skills than autoattack(when i get enchant weapon skill) using a int vit dex build since as you know magic blade is really long way to go im just assuming that at higher lvls proc rate will be better since at my current lvl(59) magia hood procs pretty good not to mention the dps with sofys xtal when spellboost triggers from resty
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elias
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Post by elias on Jan 9, 2015 2:46:28 GMT
Umaru-chanIf you go INT VIT DEX, you are a counter Enchanter that will eventually become an Mblade spammer at 220. For this Resty is probably pretty good considering getting maximum MATK would be nice from it. Any AGI on a counter build seems pointless to me since a very large majority of your damage will come from Counters not auto attacking unless you get your AGI to 135, use Dailan Scythe/Pramia/Earth Geiser/Dia Espada, and gear for Auto attack. You are an auto attacker at that point. AGI will do nothing for a counter enchanter in the long run. Basically go either Counter Enchanter OR Auto attack. You can't really do both effectively(sorta but I see counter as more of a precursor to Mblade spam at which point AGI is pretty much a bad thing). What i meant for this is that is it better for me to spam wizard skills than autoattack(when i get enchant weapon skill) using a int vit dex build since as you know magic blade is really long way to go im just assuming that at higher lvls proc rate will be better since at my current lvl(59) magia hood procs pretty good not to mention the dps with sofys xtal when spellboost triggers from resty If you have to choose between attack autoskill (with magia hood) and counter-attacking (viola + sofys xtals), i definitely prefer counters. It's way more easier to farm normal mobs as you just need to hit them once (or drain them). I'm already lv194 and my counters deal 10-12k when resty's boost is activated. Can easily keep tanking 3 h.ents and lure another when one of them dies, which makes a constant flow of experience. Actually i'm waiting for Apostolia to come out. I'm already farming Al Christa to make purple lines (autoskill, ASPD and crit rate). I hope i can actually use this and Status Release to make a decent build that can switch equips between dps counter and dps auto-attacker. Just an idea
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Post by Umaru-chan on Jan 9, 2015 2:51:20 GMT
What i meant for this is that is it better for me to spam wizard skills than autoattack(when i get enchant weapon skill) using a int vit dex build since as you know magic blade is really long way to go im just assuming that at higher lvls proc rate will be better since at my current lvl(59) magia hood procs pretty good not to mention the dps with sofys xtal when spellboost triggers from resty If you have to choose between attack autoskill (with magia hood) and counter-attacking (viola + sofys xtals), i definitely prefer counters. It's way more easier to farm normal mobs as you just need to hit them once (or drain them). I'm already lv194 and my counters deal 10-12k when resty's boost is activated. Can easily keep tanking 3 h.ents and lure another when one of them dies, which makes a constant flow of experience. Actually i'm waiting for Apostolia to come out. I'm already farming Al Christa to make purple lines (autoskill, ASPD and crit rate). I hope i can actually use this and Status Release to make a decent build that can switch equips between dps counter and dps auto-attacker. Just an idea actually counter build is pretty much set in stone for me since i already have experience on it. im just wondering on what you do when not countering hahaha are you autoattacking or are younspamming wizard skills?
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Post by elias on Jan 9, 2015 2:53:59 GMT
If you have to choose between attack autoskill (with magia hood) and counter-attacking (viola + sofys xtals), i definitely prefer counters. It's way more easier to farm normal mobs as you just need to hit them once (or drain them). I'm already lv194 and my counters deal 10-12k when resty's boost is activated. Can easily keep tanking 3 h.ents and lure another when one of them dies, which makes a constant flow of experience. Actually i'm waiting for Apostolia to come out. I'm already farming Al Christa to make purple lines (autoskill, ASPD and crit rate). I hope i can actually use this and Status Release to make a decent build that can switch equips between dps counter and dps auto-attacker. Just an idea actually counter build is pretty much set in stone for me since i already have experience on it. im just wondering on what you do when not countering hahaha are you autoattacking or are younspamming wizard skills? Well, since i have little AGI (around 65 going to 100) i autoattack and make use or enchant weapon skill. With viola's +50% cast time it's a lot faster than spamming wiz skills.
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Post by Umaru-chan on Jan 9, 2015 3:07:42 GMT
actually counter build is pretty much set in stone for me since i already have experience on it. im just wondering on what you do when not countering hahaha are you autoattacking or are younspamming wizard skills? Well, since i have little AGI (around 65 going to 100) i autoattack and make use or enchant weapon skill. With viola's +50% cast time it's a lot faster than spamming wiz skills. Haha thanks for answering i see a potentially high dps with magia hood even as a counter type, Im only 59 app. Cleric(until 70 so i can solo part1 mq) atm and i already see good number in terms of counter dmg and proc rate of magia doesnt seem low for me it also gives me faster exp grinding at minotaurs since i can kill one in 30secs(not that its something to brag about hahaha but you get the idea)
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Post by Tyranull on Jan 9, 2015 3:25:28 GMT
Well, counter enchanter isn't just about defensive autoskills. That is the main point of it, but not the only thing it can do. Back when I was with elias grinding when he let me use resty, I was hitting off 9-10k+ on enemies, and it got me wondering about what counter enchanter+dps stuff could do. That much was just resty alone, no other matk+ stuff (too stubborn to do dps stuff) but I would imagine it being able to kill things pretty quickly.
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Post by Umaru-chan on Jan 9, 2015 14:24:35 GMT
Master elias & Tyranull may i just ask which would be a better xtal to use in spec. equip: Mezza or should i just use another sofys? I am confused whether if i can mix autoattack with 1 agi and just rely on massive matk or should i just stick with a counter type idk since i think agi less enchanters are also quite flexible with build and thus can still be a great autoattacker even with 1 agi
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Post by Tyranull on Jan 9, 2015 18:06:55 GMT
Master elias & Tyranull may i just ask which would be a better xtal to use in spec. equip: Mezza or should i just use another sofys? I am confused whether if i can mix autoattack with 1 agi and just rely on massive matk or should i just stick with a counter type idk since i think agi less enchanters are also quite flexible with build and thus can still be a great autoattacker even with 1 agi If you use scarlet ribbon, you can drastically increase your attack speed (+100% Aspd) But the drawback being your hit and critical hit rate are lowered If Agi is low. But that is what Dex is Also for (besides casting, of course). About your crysta question, I believe it would be best to have 2 counters (1 on armor, 1 on add) with the obvious crysta, Sofys. On your weapon, you could use stuff like Gerust, Beelzetor, Isurigi, etc., and on special use Mezzaluna crysta. That way, not only will your counters do massive damage (that much may be exaggerated a Tad bit), But you Also have your auto attacks to do damage with too.
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Post by elias on Jan 9, 2015 19:48:33 GMT
Master elias & Tyranull may i just ask which would be a better xtal to use in spec. equip: Mezza or should i just use another sofys? I am confused whether if i can mix autoattack with 1 agi and just rely on massive matk or should i just stick with a counter type idk since i think agi less enchanters are also quite flexible with build and thus can still be a great autoattacker even with 1 agi Master elias.. I just cried.. :') Personally i prefer using sofys in armor and special instead of add, just because viola's dark blast counter deals more dmg than sofys. My dream set would be: Resty rod / gerust or beelzetor Dark priest robe / sofys Viola / dunkelis or tarna (quite impossible) Shell necklace* / sofys *any special equip works
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Post by Umaru-chan on Jan 9, 2015 23:53:11 GMT
Im pertaining to both of you as masters alright? hahaha thanks for the input btw so my future set-up until magic blade would be: Resty-Gerust Dpr-Sofys Viola-Dunkelis(Tarna quite impossible too)/Magia Hood-Dunkelis(For Slow hitting mobs or when ninja dude keeps stealing hate) Brave Bangle-Sofys/ Brave Bangle-Mezza or Carved demon ns *which gives matk up by vit, but idk which would give higher matk and again for slow hitting mobs or when ninja dude steal hate
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Post by elias on Jan 10, 2015 17:26:15 GMT
Im pertaining to both of you as masters alright? hahaha thanks for the input btw so my future set-up until magic blade would be: Resty-Gerust Dpr-Sofys Viola-Dunkelis(Tarna quite impossible too)/Magia Hood-Dunkelis(For Slow hitting mobs or when ninja dude keeps stealing hate) Brave Bangle-Sofys/ Brave Bangle-Mezza or Carved demon ns *which gives matk up by vit, but idk which would give higher matk and again for slow hitting mobs or when ninja dude steal hate Perfect. Just remember that drain will be slower due to viola's stats. Be careful
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Post by jizee on Jan 11, 2015 7:13:07 GMT
Hi Guys, I am currently lvl 177 Counter-Enchanter, please check out, i have few concerns on this build These are my Stats: Int 256 Vit 150 Agi 55 Dex 81(currently working on this one for cspd) Well, what i do is i switch eventail, to Resty Rod when casting drain. Eq: Weapon: Resty rod Gerust. Armor: DPR UP Sofys Add: Scarlet Ribbon Dunk Spec: Dragonewt Sofys. (Planning to switch from scarlet ribbon to viola in the future once I set my full ASPD by Agi) 1.I have this fine EQ and Build, How come I always die like once or twice per attack(I meant on going inside) on Mezzaluna.(well I use pet) I have seen DPS Enchanter once. lvl 150+ The two of us inside Mezza and he can even sustain his health and kill Mezzaluna without dying. 2.I can kill one Megaroche in 2-3 mins is this fine? I saw a post somewhere, enchanter can kill megaroche in 10-20 seconds. 3.Mblade is buff right? And they call it spam build. How come, I see mblade as a buff and 2 mins of duration. When Counter-Enchanter reach 220 should we change build? I mean on eq. or no? Thank you in advance
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Post by elias on Jan 11, 2015 14:03:21 GMT
Hi Guys, I am currently lvl 177 Counter-Enchanter, please check out, i have few concerns on this build These are my Stats: Int 256 Vit 150 Agi 55 Dex 81(currently working on this one for cspd) Well, what i do is i switch eventail, to Resty Rod when casting drain. Eq: Weapon: Resty rod Gerust. Armor: DPR UP Sofys Add: Scarlet Ribbon Dunk Spec: Dragonewt Sofys. (Planning to switch from scarlet ribbon to viola in the future once I set my full ASPD by Agi) 1.I have this fine EQ and Build, How come I always die like once or twice per attack(I meant on going inside) on Mezzaluna.(well I use pet) I have seen DPS Enchanter once. lvl 150+ The two of us inside Mezza and he can even sustain his health and kill Mezzaluna without dying. 2.I can kill one Megaroche in 2-3 mins is this fine? I saw a post somewhere, enchanter can kill megaroche in 10-20 seconds. 3.Mblade is buff right? And they call it spam build. How come, I see mblade as a buff and 2 mins of duration. When Counter-Enchanter reach 220 should we change build? I mean on eq. or no? Thank you in advance Let's see... 1. Your build is fine, but i would suggest raising vit to 200+. I have around 230 vit and i hardly die against Mezza. Using Tyranull's Damage Disable set would make it even easier but slower. 2. It's a good time for a Counter Enchanter. Obviously Dps auto-attackers can kill them a lot faster. Just wait to reach lv180 and get origin skill, tanking megaroxhes as well as any other elemental mob will be easier. Just in case, Origin gives you an elemental buff to Fire, Water, Wind or Earth. For example, if you activate Water origin, your water magic and resistance is increased, and your fire magic and resistance is lowered. Water monsters (megaroches for example) will deal only half damage to you BUT fire mobs will tear you apart (it happened to me against altadora q.q) With that and more vit as i said in the previous point you will be able to tank 3 megaroches in the same time (around 2 minutes). Just keep your buffs/stone skin active and enjoy the fireworks *-* 3. Magic blade is not a buff. It's an offensive skill for level 220 Enchanters that deal 2 damages (one ATK-based, one MATK-based). When us counter Enchanters reach that level, with just some equipment switching we can change from a Damage Counter build to a Magic Blade Spam build and deal massive damage, always taking the tanking role in the party, because Magic Blade generates A LOT of hate. At that point you will also obtain Stone Skin 2, it will make tanking a whole lot easier.
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Post by Capicuo on Jan 11, 2015 14:20:26 GMT
Hi there! I just made and acc at forums to say u all thank u for letting me know bout counterchanter!
Im loving so much killing a stack of mobs by just hitting them and smoking a cigarrette (dont smoke kids, its really bad -.-) while the counters do the rest lol.
Furthermore I wanned to ask how can u all manage to kill a roche in 2 mins. Im currently lv 177 and cant manage to do it in less than 3 mins, but i can do mawid quest REALLY fast cuz with resty's spellboost one counter is enought to kill a mob.
My current gear is: Resty @179 ns DPR ns Viola s clean Lotus seed ns (I know i need xtas but im not lucky with drops, so i cant make any spina lol)
Btw maze lv 44 is a nice place to lv up cuz every mob is aggresive and Ancients Gladiators give exp similar to h.ents.
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elias
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Post by elias on Jan 11, 2015 16:10:10 GMT
Hi there! I just made and acc at forums to say u all thank u for letting me know bout counterchanter! Im loving so much killing a stack of mobs by just hitting them and smoking a cigarrette (dont smoke kids, its really bad -.-) while the counters do the rest lol. Furthermore I wanned to ask how can u all manage to kill a roche in 2 mins. Im currently lv 177 and cant manage to do it in less than 3 mins, but i can do mawid quest REALLY fast cuz with resty's spellboost one counter is enought to kill a mob. My current gear is: Resty @179 ns DPR ns Viola s clean Lotus seed ns (I know i need xtas but im not lucky with drops, so i cant make any spina lol) Btw maze lv 44 is a nice place to lv up cuz every mob is aggresive and Ancients Gladiators give exp similar to h.ents. How can we kill megas in 2 mins? Well the answer is simple: tanking more than one at the same time. When you have 3 megaroches attacking you, resty's spellbost will be reactivated easily, it actually keeps re-buffing and your counters keep doing 10k+ damage. Remember that if you want to tank megaroches effectively you will need Origin skill (lv180) When using resty rod, counter-enchanters become kinda weird, because the more monsters we are fighting at the same time, the fastest we kill them haha ^^
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