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Post by Enriz on Oct 8, 2014 3:02:25 GMT
I building Tank Enchanter, but so far i face problem to keep agro on me.. This affecting the whole party while I cant keep agro.. Anyone have any idea how to solve this?
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Post by Stacy's Mom on Oct 8, 2014 3:14:09 GMT
your only way is to get hate+% gear/xtals like kaphar/rowell, which cripples your output. chanters aren't really made to be party tanks.
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Post by ReaDaeyn on Oct 8, 2014 4:48:39 GMT
There's a great guide that covers dps and tanky enchanters. irunaonline.boards.net/thread/190/enchanter-guideThe more you keep your target engaged, the better you hold hate. So if are up against Bishops that spam or in a pt with another spammer or someone who has higher dps, they'll steal aggro. |
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Oct 8, 2014 10:35:39 GMT
I building Tank Enchanter, but so far i face problem to keep agro on me.. This affecting the whole party while I cant keep agro.. Anyone have any idea how to solve this? I don't think there is an existing formula for hate. If there is one, we can review and exploit it. Keeping hate is a vital part of tanking and there are numerous hate abilities/gears/xtals out there to use. The only problem is, without the formula, we wouldn't know how much hate is enough to keep aggro in a certain situation. I have a taunt bangle slot with Kaphar and it seems to work well enough to steal aggro from a wiz on a 2-man party. I haven't really tested well enough beyond that, though. |
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Post by GENSHIN™ on Oct 8, 2014 11:29:29 GMT
This may sound a bit silly but it works for me along with your taunt bangle slot it should probably work a bit better then what it does for me if one of your Pty membs draw aggro away from you try one mini heal 3 to draw aggro back I know for a fact any sort of healing aggros like a B! I do this from time to time in mega Pty and it does work reasonable well its very hard to hold aggro 100% as enchanter maybe this method will work for you give it a try.
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Keep Agro
Oct 8, 2014 13:36:43 GMT
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Post by Tyranull on Oct 8, 2014 13:36:43 GMT
Oh, so when it comes to a party tank; here is what you need: Provoke on sword, provoke on add, taunt bangle, and if your tanking is really good, you should throw in a few matk xtals so you hold aggro by doing damage.
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Post by Tyranull on Oct 8, 2014 14:08:30 GMT
Prvoke on sword is dropped by boss colon in eternity maze, btw. Idk about what drops it on add.
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Post by Enriz on Oct 9, 2014 1:02:37 GMT
Prvoke on sword is dropped by boss colon in eternity maze, btw. Idk about what drops it on add. I use Provoke lvl3.. But it seems not enough to hold agro.. |
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Post by Tyranull on Oct 9, 2014 3:58:15 GMT
Well if that isn't working, try to get lv 5, and use good matk xtals so you deal good damage; which draws aggro. Or you could always switch to cane weapons and use t bolt repeatedly. Need a good amount of dex though.
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Post by Enriz on Oct 9, 2014 7:49:10 GMT
Maybe I should get lvl5.. Using gerust n shojo for matk. Someone mention above more dps. Related to atk speed or what? If that the case, need to spent more agi then..
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Post by Stacy's Mom on Oct 9, 2014 14:22:34 GMT
Maybe I should get lvl5.. Using gerust n shojo for matk. Someone mention above more dps. Related to atk speed or what? If that the case, need to spent more agi then.. damage in general is one of the biggest factors in getting aggro. there are skills that have their own hate growth, but if someone's damage builds more hate than your skill you will lose aggro. this is why end game geared hwiz/sniper can steal aggro from a pally with good gear just from spamming spells. |
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Keep Agro
Oct 9, 2014 22:53:06 GMT
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Post by Enriz on Oct 9, 2014 22:53:06 GMT
Maybe I should get lvl5.. Using gerust n shojo for matk. Someone mention above more dps. Related to atk speed or what? If that the case, need to spent more agi then.. damage in general is one of the biggest factors in getting aggro. there are skills that have their own hate growth, but if someone's damage builds more hate than your skill you will lose aggro. this is why end game geared hwiz/sniper can steal aggro from a pally with good gear just from spamming spells. How about ninja that can hold agro? |
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Post by Stacy's Mom on Oct 10, 2014 0:14:50 GMT
damage in general is one of the biggest factors in getting aggro. there are skills that have their own hate growth, but if someone's damage builds more hate than your skill you will lose aggro. this is why end game geared hwiz/sniper can steal aggro from a pally with good gear just from spamming spells. How about ninja that can hold agro? most ninja's that have end game gear can hold aggro for the fact that they do high dps constantly (let's say 7k autos and 50-60k docs) doc has high dmg resulting on high aggro gains, but against a end game hwiz they don't really stand a chance (i had to hold back vs two 220+ ninjas as a 163 hwiz because i kept stealing aggro from them at WoL) |
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Keep Agro
Oct 10, 2014 0:37:44 GMT
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Post by Enriz on Oct 10, 2014 0:37:44 GMT
How about ninja that can hold agro? most ninja's that have end game gear can hold aggro for the fact that they do high dps constantly (let's say 7k autos and 50-60k docs) doc has high dmg resulting on high aggro gains, but against a end game hwiz they don't really stand a chance (i had to hold back vs two 220+ ninjas as a 163 hwiz because i kept stealing aggro from them at WoL) So, enchanter need high damage + high dps to keep agro.. Is DPS related to atk spd? |
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Post by Stacy's Mom on Oct 10, 2014 0:57:20 GMT
most ninja's that have end game gear can hold aggro for the fact that they do high dps constantly (let's say 7k autos and 50-60k docs) doc has high dmg resulting on high aggro gains, but against a end game hwiz they don't really stand a chance (i had to hold back vs two 220+ ninjas as a 163 hwiz because i kept stealing aggro from them at WoL) So, enchanter need high damage + high dps to keep agro.. Is DPS related to atk spd? dps is a term used for average damage per second, you can look at it like this, if in the period of 1 minute you do 300k dmg you do 5k dmg per second. what comes next is if it's burst damage or regular damage. burst damage is what hwiz does, nin has a bit of a mix of both (they do damage with autos and DoC) regular damage (Autoattacks) also build up aggro and can maintain aggro if the damage is good in general, otherwise they start losing aggro to the hwiz's burst damage. . |
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