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Post by Forensena on Feb 28, 2014 8:54:19 GMT
Actually, Ninja Mages can do more damage then H Wiz currently. It is actually a good idea, if you get shojo and other matk% or element damage up. if ur going fulll matk ninja then yah, but otherwise no since special bow is -atk per int or vit but if a ninja is going mage ninja, they wouldn't be using special bows.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 13:08:40 GMT
if ur going fulll matk ninja then yah, but otherwise no since special bow is -atk per int or vit but if a ninja is going mage ninja, they wouldn't be using special bows. I'm saying as 2 different things...special bow if dps ninja...int if magic ninja...I'm saying for the dps ninjas not to put any points In int for the reason of int lowering atk on special bow...not saying magic ninja to use special bow lol
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Post by kenny on Mar 1, 2014 20:15:16 GMT
agi and crt build is good bt i wanna do the shuriken-ninja build does anyone know the steps i should take on the builds like what stats i need to add first. Help will really be appreciated tanx.
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Post by dt88 on Mar 3, 2014 5:40:34 GMT
Hi,
I was planning to do a agi/crt build ninja. But the problem is the 3rd stat which im unsure of which to pump it to.
currently im level 190+ and after maxing both agi and crt i have 70+ for 3rd stat. I pump it all to str but it only affects my damage by a little. On the other hand, my dance of clone CD is ultra long. about 10-12 seconds.
My question is should i just concentrate my 3rd stat all on dex if i am more dependent on using dance of clone rather than using the normal attk button?
Thank you in advance for your help ! =)
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Post by drrockso on Mar 3, 2014 15:19:25 GMT
im not pro ninja, but i wouldnt suggest int since ninjas have enough mp, if going for third stat, go for either str or dex, currently im agi crt dex Actually, Ninja Mages can do more damage then H Wiz currently. It is actually a good idea, if you get shojo and other matk% or element damage up. Yep at lvl 100 mage ninja can do 10k damage but when your a app hw you only do about 5-6k and when you become high wiz you hit like 13k than when mage ninja hits 140 his spells are op ive seen a lvl 130 ninja and he could solo grail i tried and died everytime
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Post by xgodricx on Mar 4, 2014 7:36:10 GMT
can i do 130 agi, max int and evenly distribute leftovers to dex and crit, if i wanna be both types ninja?
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Post by elk on Mar 6, 2014 3:42:05 GMT
can i do 130 agi, max int and evenly distribute leftovers to dex and crit, if i wanna be both types ninja? Hybrids aren't very good nor do they play well with others. Excel in one thing you'll be better off
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Post by elk on Mar 6, 2014 3:44:31 GMT
Hi, I was planning to do a agi/crt build ninja. But the problem is the 3rd stat which im unsure of which to pump it to. currently im level 190+ and after maxing both agi and crt i have 70+ for 3rd stat. I pump it all to str but it only affects my damage by a little. On the other hand, my dance of clone CD is ultra long. about 10-12 seconds. My question is should i just concentrate my 3rd stat all on dex if i am more dependent on using dance of clone rather than using the normal attk button? Thank you in advance for your help ! =) Dex only reduces cast speed not cool down. If you feel str isn't quite enough go int due to the fact ninja has terrible recovery rate it'll keep you grinding a bit longer ^^
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2014 4:45:19 GMT
Hi, I was planning to do a agi/crt build ninja. But the problem is the 3rd stat which im unsure of which to pump it to. currently im level 190+ and after maxing both agi and crt i have 70+ for 3rd stat. I pump it all to str but it only affects my damage by a little. On the other hand, my dance of clone CD is ultra long. about 10-12 seconds. My question is should i just concentrate my 3rd stat all on dex if i am more dependent on using dance of clone rather than using the normal attk button? Thank you in advance for your help ! =) Dex only reduces cast speed not cool down. If you feel str isn't quite enough go int due to the fact ninja has terrible recovery rate it'll keep you grinding a bit longer ^^ Dex will decrease the cooldown a little, and i dont see what recovery rate really has to do with ninja lol. Anyways dt88 str will add the same amount of claw damage that agi does. If your mp pool is what your worried about, then remagics and maybe 25int will solve that problem, otherwise your leaning towards the stronger throwing knives.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Mar 6, 2014 6:12:52 GMT
I know a ninja doing 50-60k every 5 or so seconds (aside from normal attack). That's not so bad right?
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Post by elk on Mar 6, 2014 16:57:52 GMT
Dex only reduces cast speed not cool down. If you feel str isn't quite enough go int due to the fact ninja has terrible recovery rate it'll keep you grinding a bit longer ^^ Dex will decrease the cooldown a little, and i dont see what recovery rate really has to do with ninja lol. Anyways dt88 str will add the same amount of claw damage that agi does. If your mp pool is what your worried about, then remagics and maybe 25int will solve that problem, otherwise your leaning towards the stronger throwing knives. considering ninja is a solo class they dont quite have anyone to rely on and remL can get pretty expensive which could end up making your profits from a grind little to none and a ninja recovers very little mp during sit. But I suppose thats a bit hard for you to understand ^^
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Post by elk on Mar 6, 2014 17:01:56 GMT
Hi, I was planning to do a agi/crt build ninja. But the problem is the 3rd stat which im unsure of which to pump it to. currently im level 190+ and after maxing both agi and crt i have 70+ for 3rd stat. I pump it all to str but it only affects my damage by a little. On the other hand, my dance of clone CD is ultra long. about 10-12 seconds. My question is should i just concentrate my 3rd stat all on dex if i am more dependent on using dance of clone rather than using the normal attk button? Thank you in advance for your help ! =) but all and all agi>crit>str is the right way to go to maximize damage output.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2014 20:32:48 GMT
Dex will decrease the cooldown a little, and i dont see what recovery rate really has to do with ninja lol. Anyways dt88 str will add the same amount of claw damage that agi does. If your mp pool is what your worried about, then remagics and maybe 25int will solve that problem, otherwise your leaning towards the stronger throwing knives. considering ninja is a solo class they dont quite have anyone to rely on and remL can get pretty expensive which could end up making your profits from a grind little to none and a ninja recovers very little mp during sit. But I suppose thats a bit hard for you to understand ^^ If your to poor to afford remagic then you shouldnt be a ninja in the first place. Further explained in the link below irunaonline.boards.net/thread/855/ninja Dont see every other class adding precious points into int just so they gain a little more mp when they sit.
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Post by dt88 on Mar 8, 2014 1:51:36 GMT
considering ninja is a solo class they dont quite have anyone to rely on and remL can get pretty expensive which could end up making your profits from a grind little to none and a ninja recovers very little mp during sit. But I suppose thats a bit hard for you to understand ^^ If your to poor to afford remagic then you shouldnt be a ninja in the first place. Further explained in the link below irunaonline.boards.net/thread/855/ninja Dont see every other class adding precious points into int just so they gain a little more mp when they sit. Thanks for all the advice. The sole reason for me to put DEX is because i thought it will decrease cool down and cast time greatly for my dance of clone. Anyway I have already tested it out with stelfhy book, no difference at all. That makes me left with no other option other than STR. and I understand fully what you said elk =.= plus its pretty common sense. I think Tilt has a better understanding of ninja than you. No offense of course ^^
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 4:02:35 GMT
Well if you use INT over agi then the shurikens damage will be higher than kodachi. The magic will be useful once you add the magic stats. Going off of what you say, you have no magic stats so the magic part of the ninja wont show to well for you. Im also still confused about the shuriken thing. Throwing is shuriken. And no ninja skill specifically targets shuriken. Same with samurai and the katana. Some things may be word kind of weird. fortunatly I have a ninja and samurai and both shuriken and katana so ill test just in case. maybe it has to do with translation Not everything in Japanese directly translated to english. Just a guess tho. lol, it sounds crazy, but could be true, for example, ghost ring on jp is magic eva +10%, on eng its magic r +10%, just trying to support your theory
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