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Post by meow on Nov 18, 2015 5:33:42 GMT
Hi,
It depends:
Bows deal more dmg if you compare it per atk or doc, unless there's a better special than a.ring s. for nails to use.
Magic Ninja deals more dmg overtime and against high def bosses or barriers (ES: 100k+ Domination 55k+) because the skill combination is faster than DOC without dex build, but need a PT. HW or Enchanter spams paralyze, Magic Ninja can use Katon > ES > Domination (can skip raiton if hw or enchanter spam their paralyze).
Magic Ninja is harder to lv, it's more expensive on pots and need pt (mp healer),
Don't like dex build for non magic ninja's because I sometimes switch to sword + myrica slot for high hp against certain bosses to solo.
Tested on Lv 300 Nin. (Stopped MQ at olt. village - waiting for the new ai xtal to replace the free blank ai) Str: 357 Agi: 405 Crt: 405
Claw vs Bow = bow wins
Because a.arrow slotted is way more powerful than a.ring slotted.
a.ring slotted can't even win against an a.arrow (non slot)
Thanks
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Post by ruebear on Nov 18, 2015 6:00:30 GMT
Hi, It depends: Bows deal more dmg if you compare it per atk or doc, unless there's a better special than a.ring s. for nails to use. Magic Ninja deals more dmg overtime and against high def bosses or barriers (ES: 100k+ Domination 55k+) because the skill combination is faster than DOC without dex build, but need a PT. HW or Enchanter spams paralyze, Magic Ninja can use Katon > ES > Domination (can skip raiton if hw or enchanter spam their paralyze). Magic Ninja is harder to lv, it's more expensive on pots and need pt (mp healer), Don't like dex build for non magic ninja's because I sometimes switch to sword + myrica slot for high hp against certain bosses to solo. Tested on Lv 300 Nin. (Stopped MQ at olt. village - waiting for the new ai xtal to replace the free blank ai) Str: 357 Agi: 405 Crt: 405 Claw vs Bow = bow wins Because a.arrow slotted is way more powerful than a.ring slotted. a.ring slotted can't even win against an a.arrow (non slot) Thanks Most Ninja builds that go bow have a stat build of agi>crt>dex. And most people who use this build use thimble rather than adamantite arrow. However if you go agi>crt>str, you can still go both claw or bow, thus letting you use a.arrow. I just feel that maxing dex is a better option than str. You're already using thimble for the extra attack. Plus you have more cast time delay, more mdef, etc. I don't know why you would need high hp as a Ninja when you have clones...
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Post by meow on Nov 18, 2015 6:11:40 GMT
I need hp gear, hp abilities and str stat for soloing bosses with stuns + hp rate cut while stunned that makes us lose all our clones without dying or relying on pet.
with str: can use bow, nail & swords (1hp to high hp).
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Post by snake on Nov 18, 2015 7:02:01 GMT
Hi, It depends: Bows deal more dmg if you compare it per atk or doc, unless there's a better special than a.ring s. for nails to use. Magic Ninja deals more dmg overtime and against high def bosses or barriers (ES: 100k+ Domination 55k+) because the skill combination is faster than DOC without dex build, but need a PT. HW or Enchanter spams paralyze, Magic Ninja can use Katon > ES > Domination (can skip raiton if hw or enchanter spam their paralyze). Magic Ninja is harder to lv, it's more expensive on pots and need pt (mp healer), Don't like dex build for non magic ninja's because I sometimes switch to sword + myrica slot for high hp against certain bosses to solo. Tested on Lv 300 Nin. (Stopped MQ at olt. village - waiting for the new ai xtal to replace the free blank ai) Str: 357 Agi: 405 Crt: 405 Claw vs Bow = bow wins Because a.arrow slotted is way more powerful than a.ring slotted. a.ring slotted can't even win against an a.arrow (non slot) Thanks Most Ninja builds that go bow have a stat build of agi>crt>dex. And most people who use this build use thimble rather than adamantite arrow. However if you go agi>crt>str, you can still go both claw or bow, thus letting you use a.arrow. I just feel that maxing dex is a better option than str. You're already using thimble for the extra attack. Plus you have more cast time delay, more mdef, etc. I don't know why you would need high hp as a Ninja when you have clones... 1 STR with adamantite arrows gives 1.1 atk, while 1 DEX with thimble only 1 atk. Also dex doesn't reduce skill delay for doc at all. Str is the way to go imo.
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Post by ruebear on Nov 18, 2015 12:30:32 GMT
Most Ninja builds that go bow have a stat build of agi>crt>dex. And most people who use this build use thimble rather than adamantite arrow. However if you go agi>crt>str, you can still go both claw or bow, thus letting you use a.arrow. I just feel that maxing dex is a better option than str. You're already using thimble for the extra attack. Plus you have more cast time delay, more mdef, etc. I don't know why you would need high hp as a Ninja when you have clones... 1 STR with adamantite arrows gives 1.1 atk, while 1 DEX with thimble only 1 atk. Also dex doesn't reduce skill delay for doc at all. Str is the way to go imo. Yes I understand, but dex allows you to hit more and you have a higher base attack. I was a fair amount of lvl higher than bosses when doing my mq and I would miss a lot that is untill I added dex. Bow users need dex originally anyways. So you can take a lot of missed hits with I guess "stronger" hits two out of 5 hits. Or use dex and have a higher hit rate. I haven't tried agi>crt>str so maybe you don't have as much missed hits or maybe you do. But from what I experienced as a bow user, you need dex. You can add str later if you want, maybe in stat release, then possible switch over to a.arrow.
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Post by snake on Nov 18, 2015 14:51:39 GMT
1 STR with adamantite arrows gives 1.1 atk, while 1 DEX with thimble only 1 atk. Also dex doesn't reduce skill delay for doc at all. Str is the way to go imo. Yes I understand, but dex allows you to hit more and you have a higher base attack. I was a fair amount of lvl higher than bosses when doing my mq and I would miss a lot that is untill I added dex. Bow users need dex originally anyways. So you can take a lot of missed hits with I guess "stronger" hits two out of 5 hits. Or use dex and have a higher hit rate. I haven't tried agi>crt>str so maybe you don't have as much missed hits or maybe you do. But from what I experienced as a bow user, you need dex. You can add str later if you want, maybe in stat release, then possible switch over to a.arrow. Lol with max crt rate you don't need hit rate at all, because critical hits don't rely on hit rate. So, as i said, str is way better.
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Post by ruebear on Nov 18, 2015 18:31:21 GMT
Yes I understand, but dex allows you to hit more and you have a higher base attack. I was a fair amount of lvl higher than bosses when doing my mq and I would miss a lot that is untill I added dex. Bow users need dex originally anyways. So you can take a lot of missed hits with I guess "stronger" hits two out of 5 hits. Or use dex and have a higher hit rate. I haven't tried agi>crt>str so maybe you don't have as much missed hits or maybe you do. But from what I experienced as a bow user, you need dex. You can add str later if you want, maybe in stat release, then possible switch over to a.arrow. Lol with max crt rate you don't need hit rate at all, because critical hits don't rely on hit rate. So, as i said, str is way better. Well you can go str I'll go with dex. I like the of having dex. All in all its based on opinions.
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Post by ruebear on Nov 19, 2015 3:11:15 GMT
[quote author=" snake"[/quote] Lol with max crt rate you don't need hit rate at all, because critical hits don't rely on hit rate. So, as i said, str is way better. [/quote] Also doesn't DoC only do normal attacks? So your maxed critical would mean nothing with str if you can barely hit with DoC without dex.
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Post by snake on Nov 19, 2015 6:33:59 GMT
Lol with max crt rate you don't need hit rate at all, because critical hits don't rely on hit rate. So, as i said, str is way better. [/quote] Also doesn't DoC only do normal attacks? So your maxed critical would mean nothing with str if you can barely hit with DoC without dex. [/quote] Lol? Doc is critical based too, even though it's white damage. Basically it's your regular crt atk x number of clones. Hit rate is not important.
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Post by HolySoul on Nov 30, 2015 16:46:36 GMT
I'm a tad bit confused (I'm a little new to the game) so I'm going Dex/crit/str. Will it be harder to survive as a ninja with this build as in cloning is it reliable for fast attacking monsters? My equipment currently is Weapon: Le fue Armor: Theft garb Add:dark wings Special gear?:Thimble >.< I feel like I'm all over the place. And are my current equipment decent enough for a lvl 56
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Post by ◀♡ReD♥▶ on Nov 30, 2015 22:08:42 GMT
I'm a tad bit confused (I'm a little new to the game) so I'm going Dex/crit/str. Will it be harder to survive as a ninja with this build as in cloning is it reliable for fast attacking monsters? My equipment currently is Weapon: Le fue Armor: Theft garb Add:dark wings Special gear?:Thimble >.< I feel like I'm all over the place. And are my current equipment decent enough for a lvl 56 yes it will be hard cuz without agi your clones will die quick.
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Post by zelml on Mar 3, 2016 18:02:58 GMT
My thoughts on iruna ninja builds.There are basic three ninja types according to common weapon.Throw type.Bow ninja are pure hybrid.The three ninja types.
MELEE NINJA STR>CRIT>INT (DC Spammer)(SILIENT KILLING) The pures physical attack ninja.Can be proven to Spamm 200k+ per sec. Bad thing is, survivalbilty is rated medium to low.Your resorted to 9clone technenic and spamming bushi 3clone skill.LAST PHYSICAL ATTACKS PRONE TO BARRIERS.
MAGIC NINJA(MY FAVORITE) INT>DEX>CRIT (CHAINING ELEMENTAL MAGIC,DOMINATION,SILIENT KILLING) The pures magical attack ninja.Magic ninja no problem with barriers, making attacks the most constistent.Capable of high damage through chain magic.Mage ninja is a DOT type character.Survivablity is rated medium high in comparson the the three ninjas due to domination.Reborner has a good forum here on magic ninja.In my opinion the only bad thing is magic ninja gains hate in partys or alone making it more common for ailments espcially stunn.
AUTO/TANK NINJA (Special throw) INT>AGL>VIT INT>VIT>AGL
I'm keep it to the point,God ninja.If done right this ninja can not die.Truly immortal.9clone technic, Bushi 3clone,HP, and evasion.the only bad thing about Special throw is the weakest of the three ninja, yet its the tankest in the whole iruna imo.The damage not bad yet the weakest of the three ninjas.
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Post by zelml on Mar 3, 2016 18:19:31 GMT
Also claw ninja is a hybrid too.
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Post by Faylyne on Mar 3, 2016 22:24:58 GMT
Maybe you must try to see this xD
Raton :
Ouvel :
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Post by Cerulean on Mar 4, 2016 0:24:14 GMT
Maybe you must try to see this xD Raton : Ouvel : Lel ouvel died 2 sec in xD
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