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Post by dadsgone on Aug 17, 2014 19:58:47 GMT
im planning to build eva tank build but it looks like eva tank is too risky since it has low hp and sum bosses can easily kill them even with high eva.
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Post by crazybrker on Aug 18, 2014 11:17:16 GMT
My current build is EVA TANK. Even at capped AGI you really wont dodge too much... Even with Sinbad3 (AGI+24), Aulis Gale, volk shoes, and evasion buff... You will still get hit. So if you want to be real tank and be able to survive then you need VIT.
So my build is INT>AGI>VIT
My gear focuses on EVA and CRIT for hit rate.
Gear options are:
Pramia - claw, crit rate +20 I think?
Air slicer - Melee +50, skill delay -0.2, crit rate +30, wind element, throwing
Ultimi - Matk+6%, Critical Up, Delay -0.5s (item & skill, don't forget), Melee+100, Accuracy+50, Absolute Evasion+5%
T Garb4 - Evasion +6%, Crit Rate +15, Magic Evasion +6%
Aulis Gale - Crit +20, evasion up on attack
Mermaid Jewel - crit rate+5/crit damage+5%
Volk Shoes - Evasion +10%, Abs Evasion +2%
Probably a couple more but you get the picture. I have a pretty good hit rate DPS with just Dia+DPR+Mir if you still want to use that, but you can switch to crit/eva gear when you need more accuracy for more evasive mobs/heavy hitters.
Evasion + Tank is a win in my book
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Aug 18, 2014 14:52:24 GMT
Ive had agi builds and vit builds on warrior classes and although evasion can work well, you will still need some meat to take in magic and criticals (if u combine it with normal attacks that still hit you, it might look like you dont have evasion at all). This is unless you have clones like a ninja. If you plan to solo hard bosses, I would recommend vit. Otherwise just do evasion for mobs and be ranged on boss grinds.
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Post by GENSHIN™ on Aug 18, 2014 20:54:50 GMT
Could do it the so called average way of doing enchanter int,vit,agl,dex everyone will swear blind that its not the best you will be average enchanter but its far from average if you ask me you got the best of both worlds tbh decent tank and more then decent damage seriously such a under rated build. I'm only 171 you ever see me about ign GENSHIN™ come see my build and tell me if its average you will be shocked man roll on level 230 when I have more points and be more god like. Hahahaha hahahaha was killing them brosche mobs in mawid plains out doing a level 200 ninja I never lie about these things! If your blessed to have a bit of money for reset books try all the builds and holla at me give me feed back because it seems like I'm one of the very few on eng version with this build. I wanna know is it just me who thinks this build is gd or I'm just deluded by my build.
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Post by dadsgone on Aug 20, 2014 18:59:55 GMT
My current build is EVA TANK. Even at capped AGI you really wont dodge too much... Even with Sinbad3 (AGI+24), Aulis Gale, volk shoes, and evasion buff... You will still get hit. So if you want to be real tank and be able to survive then you need VIT. So my build is INT>AGI>VIT My gear focuses on EVA and CRIT for hit rate. Gear options are: Pramia - claw, crit rate +20 I think? Air slicer - Melee +50, skill delay -0.2, crit rate +30, wind element, throwing Ultimi - Matk+6%, Critical Up, Delay -0.5s (item & skill, don't forget), Melee+100, Accuracy+50, Absolute Evasion+5% T Garb4 - Evasion +6%, Crit Rate +15, Magic Evasion +6% Aulis Gale - Crit +20, evasion up on attack Mermaid Jewel - crit rate+5/crit damage+5% Volk Shoes - Evasion +10%, Abs Evasion +2% Probably a couple more but you get the picture. I have a pretty good hit rate DPS with just Dia+DPR+Mir if you still want to use that, but you can switch to crit/eva gear when you need more accuracy for more evasive mobs/heavy hitters. Evasion + Tank is a win in my book Don't you need dex for higher autoskill rate and for ultimi, you might not get a slot one right? |
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Post by kafuka on Aug 20, 2014 19:21:09 GMT
My current build is EVA TANK. Even at capped AGI you really wont dodge too much... Even with Sinbad3 (AGI+24), Aulis Gale, volk shoes, and evasion buff... You will still get hit. So if you want to be real tank and be able to survive then you need VIT. So my build is INT>AGI>VIT My gear focuses on EVA and CRIT for hit rate. Gear options are: Pramia - claw, crit rate +20 I think? Air slicer - Melee +50, skill delay -0.2, crit rate +30, wind element, throwing Ultimi - Matk+6%, Critical Up, Delay -0.5s (item & skill, don't forget), Melee+100, Accuracy+50, Absolute Evasion+5% T Garb4 - Evasion +6%, Crit Rate +15, Magic Evasion +6% Aulis Gale - Crit +20, evasion up on attack Mermaid Jewel - crit rate+5/crit damage+5% Volk Shoes - Evasion +10%, Abs Evasion +2% Probably a couple more but you get the picture. I have a pretty good hit rate DPS with just Dia+DPR+Mir if you still want to use that, but you can switch to crit/eva gear when you need more accuracy for more evasive mobs/heavy hitters. Evasion + Tank is a win in my book Don't you need dex for higher autoskill rate and for ultimi, you might not get a slot one right? I never heard of needing dex for autoskill. Ultimi is always slotted Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 |
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Post by dadsgone on Aug 20, 2014 19:23:23 GMT
then why do some people have over 200+ dex?
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Post by kafuka on Aug 20, 2014 19:42:49 GMT
then why do some people have over 200+ dex? Hit, spellboost duration Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 |
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Post by ManaKhe on Aug 21, 2014 3:18:03 GMT
then why do some people have over 200+ dex? Hit, spellboost duration Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Also CSPD, MATK, and Moldus xtal. |
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Post by ManaKhe on Aug 21, 2014 3:20:05 GMT
Could do it the so called average way of doing enchanter int,vit,agl,dex everyone will swear blind that its not the best you will be average enchanter but its far from average if you ask me you got the best of both worlds tbh decent tank and more then decent damage seriously such a under rated build. I'm only 171 you ever see me about ign GENSHIN™ come see my build and tell me if its average you will be shocked man roll on level 230 when I have more points and be more god like. Hahahaha hahahaha was killing them brosche mobs in mawid plains out doing a level 200 ninja I never lie about these things! If your blessed to have a bit of money for reset books try all the builds and holla at me give me feed back because it seems like I'm one of the very few on eng version with this build. I wanna know is it just me who thinks this build is gd or I'm just deluded by my build. I think INT DEX AGI VIT is the most common Enchanter build actually so people won't call it average lol. |
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Post by crazybrker on Aug 21, 2014 13:19:45 GMT
I'd agree too that ^ that is the most common build and some people keep it balanced and others take it to 1 extreme. Generally those are the only places that you can put stats.
Extreme Builds:
DPS - INT>AGI>DEX or INT>DEX>AGI
Normal Tank - INT>VIT>DEX
Eva Tank - INT>AGI>VIT
Common/solo build just has some of all 4 stats INT~DEX~VIT~AGI, adjusted by preference
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Post by Enriz on Oct 10, 2014 2:16:09 GMT
I'd agree too that ^ that is the most common build and some people keep it balanced and others take it to 1 extreme. Generally those are the only places that you can put stats. Extreme Builds: DPS - INT>AGI>DEX or INT>DEX>AGI Normal Tank - INT>VIT>DEX Eva Tank - INT>AGI>VIT Common/solo build just has some of all 4 stats INT~DEX~VIT~AGI, adjusted by preference What do you think of Int>Vit>Crt build? |
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Post by crazybrker on Oct 11, 2014 12:23:49 GMT
I'd agree too that ^ that is the most common build and some people keep it balanced and others take it to 1 extreme. Generally those are the only places that you can put stats. Extreme Builds: DPS - INT>AGI>DEX or INT>DEX>AGI Normal Tank - INT>VIT>DEX Eva Tank - INT>AGI>VIT Common/solo build just has some of all 4 stats INT~DEX~VIT~AGI, adjusted by preference What do you think of Int>Vit>Crt build? That would work too. More damage on main attack, but the majority of damage still comes from magic auto skills. So normal attack vs crit attack is offset by the higher matk if you were to go with dex instead of crt, In my opinion. To maximize damage on crit you need a weapon that benifits from your stats like special throwing comes from int vit agi. Might be out a year or 2 from now. I can't wait! |
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Post by Tyranull on Oct 13, 2014 4:12:38 GMT
I can guarantee that you all who use evasion tank don't use dark blast. Dark blast's status is amazing, and it procs for me quite often; usually within the first three uses. The thing is, it makes any attack have the chance of missing by the opponent, at a certain rate of course, and is signaled by a miss, but instead of a red miss: it is a purple miss. And for those of you who don't think it makes all hits having a chance of missing, I tested it out. Magic: Shojo, Mezzaluna.
Critical hit: Ganei, advanced Ghoulie. Melee: Do I really have to prove melee? Not like you need melee Eva since you already building evasion tank.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Oct 13, 2014 5:20:24 GMT
I can guarantee that you all who use evasion tank don't use dark blast. Dark blast's status is amazing, and it procs for me quite often; usually within the first three uses. The thing is, it makes any attack have the chance of missing by the opponent, at a certain rate of course, and is signaled by a miss, but instead of a red miss: it is a purple miss. And for those of you who don't think it makes all hits having a chance of missing, I tested it out. Magic: Shojo, Mezzaluna. Critical hit: Ganei, advanced Ghoulie. Melee: Do I really have to prove melee? Not like you need melee Eva since you already building evasion tank. Where can I get information on the Dark Blast status effect? I would like to look into this. I was not so keen on this because I assumed: 1) The proc rate of inflicting the status is not 100% (so I may need to dark blast a number of times before the mob gets the effect, is this correct?) 2) After I inflict the status, the miss rate of the mob is still not 100% (btw, how long is the status duration?) Hence, when I compound the DPR proc rate x the rate of the inflict x rate of miss because of the status, the chances of the miss proccing might be so low that it wouldn't make sense. This unless the duration of the status is long enough and/or the rate of miss the status gives is high enough. I think I can push to around 50% disable damage with 2 gears (whatever passes through my natural evasion) but it is still far from what I want to achieve (like maybe around 90+% disable damage) so I would like to look venture this option that you are suggesting. |
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