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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 15:39:13 GMT
 here an Elemental guides by Ron-Exon. Can somebody explain this? he's an enchanter and okay, Ganei is wind element and he's buffing wind origin instead of taking advantage over Ganei by using earth origin. any logical explanation over this type of problem in case i'v missed something critical?  |
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Post by AnTz on Feb 4, 2014 7:37:53 GMT
As far as I know, If u use same element with ur enemies, u will deal lower dmg to him but he also do lower dmg to u. Basically the idea of the enchanter is to strengthened his defense. I ve seen other enchan use this trick too.. N the result is awesome, his stoneskin bcome impenetrable
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 9:33:02 GMT
im an enchanter and actually, wind vs wind=same damage, wind vs earth also result in same damage. only wind vs ice will give 900+ damage boost to me.
question:
*logically, do you fight fire mob with fire lance instead of ice spear?
*now reverse the situation. wouldn't earth buff make wind enemy's attack ineffective to you & your attack become stronger?
wind vs wind = impenetrable stoneskin. you just sync your elemental. not gaining advantage.
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Post by AnTz on Feb 4, 2014 17:38:23 GMT
Actually, I have enchanter too, but still not take the skill quest, so maybe I wrong. I just say what I saw. I saw he can even solo simcracker after sync the element. Just try it urself to confirm  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 23:59:54 GMT
so all enchanter fight fire with fire, wind with wind except me then?
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Post by jbazt on Feb 5, 2014 8:59:52 GMT
here an Elemental guides by Ron-Exon. Can somebody explain this? he's an enchanter and okay, Ganei is wind element and he's buffing wind origin instead of taking advantage over Ganei by using earth origin. any logical explanation over this type of problem in case i'v missed something critical? i got an enchanter too and im curious. is that enchanter fighting with a sword? or casting skills using staff? for me with this type of boss. defense set is needed. ganei does normal atk mosty with high aspd. high evasion set + sinbad may dodge most atk. sometimes the best offense is your best defense esp for enchanters that each hit might do decent if it triggers. you can go full set of maxautoskill but if you die in 2-3 hits, would it be helpfull to a party? and best set of gears depends on the other party members class. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 10:29:55 GMT
here an Elemental guides by Ron-Exon. Can somebody explain this? he's an enchanter and okay, Ganei is wind element and he's buffing wind origin instead of taking advantage over Ganei by using earth origin. any logical explanation over this type of problem in case i'v missed something critical? i got an enchanter too and im curious. is that enchanter fighting with a sword? or casting skills using staff? for me with this type of boss. defense set is needed. ganei does normal atk mosty with high aspd. high evasion set + sinbad may dodge most atk. sometimes the best offense is your best defense esp for enchanters that each hit might do decent if it triggers. you can go full set of maxautoskill but if you die in 2-3 hits, would it be helpfull to a party? and best set of gears depends on the other party members class. he is using throwing. its not right to say we dps enchanters die easy. even not solo, i can duo ganei with a hwiz without new skills & ofc no healer. how decent is "decent as it triggers"? i mean, how much damage can an enchanter do now? cute 10k damage per hit? |
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Post by jbazt on Feb 6, 2014 2:11:35 GMT
i got an enchanter too and im curious. is that enchanter fighting with a sword? or casting skills using staff? for me with this type of boss. defense set is needed. ganei does normal atk mosty with high aspd. high evasion set + sinbad may dodge most atk. sometimes the best offense is your best defense esp for enchanters that each hit might do decent if it triggers. you can go full set of maxautoskill but if you die in 2-3 hits, would it be helpfull to a party? and best set of gears depends on the other party members class. he is using throwing. its not right to say we dps enchanters die easy. even not solo, i can duo ganei with a hwiz without new skills & ofc no healer. how decent is "decent as it triggers"? i mean, how much damage can an enchanter do now? cute 10k damage per hit? now i see what your trying to say, its all about the new lvl180 new enchanter skills. honestly, havent have it yet. but reading the skill's description may answer your question. from wiki: Origin Way to increase the target attribute attack, the defense. Attributes that increase at a level to be used is changing. Lv1 (fire), Lv2 (water), Lv3 (wind), Lv4 (ground) SLv1 ~ 4 MP160 quest skill acquisition trial [!] (Lv180) (2 minutes time effect) clear Lv1 (fire) Fire Physical Attack Damage Fire defense increase, Fire magic attack power increase Lv2 (water) water element physical attack damage, water attribute defense increase, water element magic attack power increase Lv3 (wind) wind attribute physical attack damage, wind attribute defense increase, wind element magic attack power increase Lv4 (earth) ground attribute physical attack damage area attribute defense increase, earth element magic attack power increase so it seems like the new skill is offensive and defensive buffs. vs ganei i will use wind origin if im the tank in the party with no healer and survival is a must "wind attribute defense increase". vs ganei i will use earth origin if the party got tank (if he good @ keeping the hate) and healer. "ground attribute physical attack damage"+"earth element magic attack power increase" echanters are good dps too. vs hwizz class 10secs offense continuity. average wizz can do 3 earthquake averaging 60k-70k+. average enchanters can do 2swings in every 1sec averaging 1k each hit. if it triggers, 1k atk + 4k skill and in 15-20 hits, 7-8 triggered(can be improve still) all classes are strong. some class just dont deliver it in huge digits (wizz/samurai). |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2014 8:34:17 GMT
he is using throwing. its not right to say we dps enchanters die easy. even not solo, i can duo ganei with a hwiz without new skills & ofc no healer. how decent is "decent as it triggers"? i mean, how much damage can an enchanter do now? cute 10k damage per hit? now i see what your trying to say, its all about the new lvl180 new enchanter skills. honestly, havent have it yet. but reading the skill's description may answer your question. from wiki: Origin Way to increase the target attribute attack, the defense. Attributes that increase at a level to be used is changing. Lv1 (fire), Lv2 (water), Lv3 (wind), Lv4 (ground) SLv1 ~ 4 MP160 quest skill acquisition trial [!] (Lv180) (2 minutes time effect) clear Lv1 (fire) Fire Physical Attack Damage Fire defense increase, Fire magic attack power increase Lv2 (water) water element physical attack damage, water attribute defense increase, water element magic attack power increase Lv3 (wind) wind attribute physical attack damage, wind attribute defense increase, wind element magic attack power increase Lv4 (earth) ground attribute physical attack damage area attribute defense increase, earth element magic attack power increase so it seems like the new skill is offensive and defensive buffs. vs ganei i will use wind origin if im the tank in the party with no healer and survival is a must "wind attribute defense increase". vs ganei i will use earth origin if the party got tank (if he good @ keeping the hate) and healer. "ground attribute physical attack damage"+"earth element magic attack power increase" echanters are good dps too. vs hwizz class 10secs offense continuity. average wizz can do 3 earthquake averaging 60k-70k+. average enchanters can do 2swings in every 1sec averaging 1k each hit. if it triggers, 1k atk + 4k skill and in 15-20 hits, 7-8 triggered(can be improve still) all classes are strong. some class just dont deliver it in huge digits (wizz/samurai). enchanter deal the least damage now. a dps which is made to tank. if you tank, your damage suffer. if you deal damage, your survival suffer. if you do both, you're not darn good at both. just average. either way. you are a tanker & im a damage dealer. you can solo bosses that i cant but you cant do such damage that i can. |
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Post by AnTz on Feb 6, 2014 8:59:35 GMT
now i see what your trying to say, its all about the new lvl180 new enchanter skills. honestly, havent have it yet. but reading the skill's description may answer your question. from wiki: Origin Way to increase the target attribute attack, the defense. Attributes that increase at a level to be used is changing. Lv1 (fire), Lv2 (water), Lv3 (wind), Lv4 (ground) SLv1 ~ 4 MP160 quest skill acquisition trial [!] (Lv180) (2 minutes time effect) clear Lv1 (fire) Fire Physical Attack Damage Fire defense increase, Fire magic attack power increase Lv2 (water) water element physical attack damage, water attribute defense increase, water element magic attack power increase Lv3 (wind) wind attribute physical attack damage, wind attribute defense increase, wind element magic attack power increase Lv4 (earth) ground attribute physical attack damage area attribute defense increase, earth element magic attack power increase so it seems like the new skill is offensive and defensive buffs. vs ganei i will use wind origin if im the tank in the party with no healer and survival is a must "wind attribute defense increase". vs ganei i will use earth origin if the party got tank (if he good @ keeping the hate) and healer. "ground attribute physical attack damage"+"earth element magic attack power increase" echanters are good dps too. vs hwizz class 10secs offense continuity. average wizz can do 3 earthquake averaging 60k-70k+. average enchanters can do 2swings in every 1sec averaging 1k each hit. if it triggers, 1k atk + 4k skill and in 15-20 hits, 7-8 triggered(can be improve still) all classes are strong. some class just dont deliver it in huge digits (wizz/samurai). enchanter deal the least damage now. a dps which is made to tank. if you tank, your damage suffer. if you deal damage, your survival suffer. if you do both, you're not darn good at both. just average. either way. you are a tanker & im a damage dealer. you can solo bosses that i cant but you cant do such damage that i can. That's conclude this topic It depends of how u want ur enchanter to be. Offensive or defensive. If u go offensive, use the opposite element, if u go defensive, use same element with ur enemies. Overall this skill show how flexible enchanter is.. balance of attack n defense. Thats why I love enchanter  |
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