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Post by Umaru-chan on Jul 27, 2014 4:29:45 GMT
Hello Guys could you tell me what class between the two is more fun and can solo level. Both are Cool to begin with do im really at a lost on what job will i push through any opinion is very much appreciated
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Post by reb13 on Jul 27, 2014 10:01:24 GMT
Enchanter is more of a soloer then magic ninja to me due to its defensive skills n mana pool
Enchanter>
Pros:
gd survival
fun
ez play
Mp recharge
Penetrate thru thickest def but low dmg
Cons:
Not a dependent soloer
Cant solo much till late game
Magic ninja:
Pros:
Gd survival
Ez play
Fun
High dmg that pierce any def
Cons:
Not dependant soloist
Uses too much mp
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Post by Umaru-chan on Jul 27, 2014 11:25:25 GMT
Enchanter is more of a soloer then magic ninja to me due to its defensive skills n mana pool Enchanter> Pros: gd survival fun ez play Mp recharge Penetrate thru thickest def but low dmg Cons: Not a dependent soloer Cant solo much till late game Magic ninja: Pros: Gd survival Ez play Fun High dmg that pierce any def Cons: Not dependant soloist Uses too much mp Damn hahaha dat "High Dmg that pierce any def" hahaha can you give some tips on survival... i really think im gonna be very squishy when drain is removed |
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Post by Ryukengan on Jul 27, 2014 12:03:53 GMT
Actually a magic ninja is the most dependant solo class, unless the boss has a built in stun, for example stun at 50% hp or something. An Enchanters survival comes from the HP buff, the characters evasion, drain, and the stone skin buff. The Enchanter already has plenty of survival tools, if you have some VIT or some HP gear (Iron Armor for example) you don't need to worry about survivability, unless you want to kill bosses. Enchanters can easily solo Megaroches with some HP potions for example, whilst many classes would struggle with it. (It just takes forever)
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Post by reb13 on Jul 27, 2014 12:09:42 GMT
Actually a magic ninja is the most dependant solo class, unless the boss has a built in stun, for example stun at 50% hp or something. An Enchanters survival comes from the HP buff, the characters evasion, drain, and the stone skin buff. The Enchanter already has plenty of survival tools, if you have some VIT or some HP gear (Iron Armor for example) you don't need to worry about survivability, unless you want to kill bosses. Enchanters can easily solo Megaroches with some HP potions for example, whilst many classes would struggle with it. (It just takes forever) yes magic ninja is dependant but it has no mp recharge the moment u run out of mp ur screwed |
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Post by Ryukengan on Jul 27, 2014 12:13:06 GMT
Actually a magic ninja is the most dependant solo class, unless the boss has a built in stun, for example stun at 50% hp or something. An Enchanters survival comes from the HP buff, the characters evasion, drain, and the stone skin buff. The Enchanter already has plenty of survival tools, if you have some VIT or some HP gear (Iron Armor for example) you don't need to worry about survivability, unless you want to kill bosses. Enchanters can easily solo Megaroches with some HP potions for example, whilst many classes would struggle with it. (It just takes forever) yes magic ninja is dependant but it has no mp recharge the moment u run out of mp ur screwed A boss run takes one wild dance, I think you can easily sustain yourself with remagic M even.. |
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Post by reb13 on Jul 27, 2014 12:15:57 GMT
yes magic ninja is dependant but it has no mp recharge the moment u run out of mp ur screwed A boss run takes one wild dance, I think you can easily sustain yourself with remagic M even.. thats a thrwing ninja not magic><many ppl get confuses between those 2 magic use katon raiton earthshaker n bushin thrwing use bushin desperate n dance |
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Post by Ryukengan on Jul 27, 2014 12:18:42 GMT
A boss run takes one wild dance, I think you can easily sustain yourself with remagic M even.. thats a thrwing ninja not magic><many ppl get confuses between those 2 magic use katon raiton earthshaker n bushin thrwing use bushin desperate n dance You dont use magic as a magic ninja if you want to solo bosses, thats the thing. A magic ninja usually also uses throwing weapons. |
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Post by reb13 on Jul 27, 2014 12:20:39 GMT
thats a thrwing ninja not magic><many ppl get confuses between those 2 magic use katon raiton earthshaker n bushin thrwing use bushin desperate n dance You dont use magic as a magic ninja if you want to solo bosses, thats the thing. A magic ninja usually also uses throwing weapons. ive been dping it all wrong then I used magic to solo the bosses:/ |
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Post by Ryukengan on Jul 27, 2014 12:25:22 GMT
You dont use magic as a magic ninja if you want to solo bosses, thats the thing. A magic ninja usually also uses throwing weapons. ive been dping it all wrong then I used magic to solo the bosses:/ Why would you, if you can 1 shot bosses with a single wild dance? It's a complicated procedure though and I'm on my phone. I might explain it when I'm back home, if noone writes how to do it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 12:37:33 GMT
i'm an enchanter but i vote for magic ninja. almost all enchanter skill will be there for gladiator even the soloing playstyle later will be the same. it doesn't feel that special anymore. just that enchanter get survival first before damage and gladiator is the opposite.
magic ninja probably solo better. they take any hit like a normal hit. be it fatal hit, critical hit, normal hit, magic hit etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 12:45:01 GMT
thats a thrwing ninja not magic><many ppl get confuses between those 2 magic use katon raiton earthshaker n bushin thrwing use bushin desperate n dance You dont use magic as a magic ninja if you want to solo bosses, thats the thing. A magic ninja usually also uses throwing weapons. question. why is it called a magic ninja if its not using magic? throwing is not a magic weapon either. nothing is magical on your type of ninja that i can relate. i'm leaning toward the term throwing ninja for this case. there's actually an old thread discussing about the difference of throwing and magic ninja. magic ninja use their magic skill, chain combo katon-raiton-earthshaker and aim for the highest matk. throwing ninja use int>str>dex>crt in any order to fully maximize physical damage to utilize clone dance and aim for the highest atk. the only reason throwing ninja build on int is to increase throwing's atk. just my piece. |
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Post by Ryukengan on Jul 27, 2014 12:48:28 GMT
i'm an enchanter but i vote for magic ninja. almost all enchanter skill will be there for gladiator. An ven the soloing playstyle later will be the same. it doesn't feel that special anymore. just that enchanter get survival first before damage and gladiator is the opposite. magic ninja probably solo better. they take any hit like a normal hit. be it fatal hit, critical hit, normal hit, magic hit etc. The fun begins at 280 for Enchanters, I don't think that they are like Gladiators. They are much better supporters, and most importantly they can refill MP! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 12:55:07 GMT
i'm an enchanter but i vote for magic ninja. almost all enchanter skill will be there for gladiator. An ven the soloing playstyle later will be the same. it doesn't feel that special anymore. just that enchanter get survival first before damage and gladiator is the opposite. magic ninja probably solo better. they take any hit like a normal hit. be it fatal hit, critical hit, normal hit, magic hit etc. The fun begins at 280 for Enchanters, I don't think that they are like Gladiators. They are much better supporters, and most importantly they can refill MP! but you pointed out the "support" term which almost majority of enchanter don't build their char for. max int>140-ish agi for aspd>70-ish dex for accuracy>rest to vit is not at all a support type. i'm built to support party and i can say enchanter is one of the best supporter if it is built to support and not to be on the front line. solo wise, they are the same. party support, its subjective. |
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Post by Ryukengan on Jul 27, 2014 13:03:03 GMT
The fun begins at 280 for Enchanters, I don't think that they are like Gladiators. They are much better supporters, and most importantly they can refill MP! but you pointed out the "support" term which almost majority of enchanter don't build their char for. max int>140-ish agi for aspd>70-ish dex for accuracy>rest to vit is not at all a support type. i'm built to support party and i can say enchanter is one of the best supporter if it is built to support and not to be on the front line. solo wise, they are the same. party support, its subjective. You don't really need to build for support to support well though. All you have to do is buff your party members, of course max VIT helps with MP refill, but the main sensation are all the great buffs an Enchanter can bring into the fight. The problem with most Enchanters though is that they don't want to accept the fact that they are a mostly auxiliary force, they only buff themselves up and try to maximise their own damage instead of trying to maximise the party's damage, resulting in an overall much higher damage output, and party survivability. |
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