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Post by Enriz on Aug 6, 2014 5:42:56 GMT
I have 2s rod, so I wonder the best xtal to put.. Maybe u have suggestion?
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Post by Alfamale on Aug 6, 2014 10:37:39 GMT
I have 2s rod, so I wonder the best xtal to put.. Maybe u have suggestion? I'd put 2 Gerust xtals on it. Matk+40% total
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Post by Enriz on Aug 6, 2014 11:49:46 GMT
I have 2s rod, so I wonder the best xtal to put.. Maybe u have suggestion? I'd put 2 Gerust xtals on it. Matk+40% total Need - skill delay to encounter xtal + delay then.. Exelis is the best option right?
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Post by Alfamale on Aug 6, 2014 12:02:59 GMT
I'd put 2 Gerust xtals on it. Matk+40% total Need - skill delay to encounter xtal + delay then.. Exelis is the best option right? Skill delay weakens you. It doesn't provide efficient Matk like other armors. This is what separates me from other high wizards. even tho I'm lv209 with no -skill delay my damage out does -skill delay users so what I'm saying is more Matk= highest dmg possible= less need of skill delay. sure people want Skill delay to spam but there's no point of wasting that high amount of money on over priced gears when the guy with +Skill delay does the same damage you'd do in 2-3 hits, while the guy does 1. plus with Max DEX the skill delay isnt event that long so I don't see why people complain...
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Post by Enriz on Aug 7, 2014 1:35:17 GMT
Need - skill delay to encounter xtal + delay then.. Exelis is the best option right? Skill delay weakens you. It doesn't provide efficient Matk like other armors. This is what separates me from other high wizards. even tho I'm lv209 with no -skill delay my damage out does -skill delay users so what I'm saying is more Matk= highest dmg possible= less need of skill delay. sure people want Skill delay to spam but there's no point of wasting that high amount of money on over priced gears when the guy with +Skill delay does the same damage you'd do in 2-3 hits, while the guy does 1. plus with Max DEX the skill delay isnt event that long so I don't see why people complain... I see, couldn't agree more.. Well explain
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 1:41:03 GMT
i'm not high but im still a wizard and i approve.
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Post by reb13 on Aug 9, 2014 6:11:36 GMT
If want skill delay just use magic robe+w.hat both r cheaper n just as strong as exelis up n mercure
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aroxis
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Post by aroxis on Aug 11, 2014 17:12:54 GMT
Need - skill delay to encounter xtal + delay then.. Exelis is the best option right? Skill delay weakens you. It doesn't provide efficient Matk like other armors. This is what separates me from other high wizards. even tho I'm lv209 with no -skill delay my damage out does -skill delay users so what I'm saying is more Matk= highest dmg possible= less need of skill delay. sure people want Skill delay to spam but there's no point of wasting that high amount of money on over priced gears when the guy with +Skill delay does the same damage you'd do in 2-3 hits, while the guy does 1. plus with Max DEX the skill delay isnt event that long so I don't see why people complain... Is ultimi the most prefered now since it gives -skill delay and matk?
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Post by kronikk on Aug 11, 2014 21:01:44 GMT
Need - skill delay to encounter xtal + delay then.. Exelis is the best option right? Skill delay weakens you. It doesn't provide efficient Matk like other armors. This is what separates me from other high wizards. even tho I'm lv209 with no -skill delay my damage out does -skill delay users so what I'm saying is more Matk= highest dmg possible= less need of skill delay. sure people want Skill delay to spam but there's no point of wasting that high amount of money on over priced gears when the guy with +Skill delay does the same damage you'd do in 2-3 hits, while the guy does 1. plus with Max DEX the skill delay isnt event that long so I don't see why people complain... Skill delay its not just for spam skill.its also for mana recharge,mana stock and many more use.i dont know why u not complain about skill delay.i guess u only play your char for leveling.. Dont confuse people saying that your 1hit is equal to 2-3hit from people who use skill delay equip.i got both set and compare the damge,the dmge is just slightly difference between 3.3k matk and 3.5k matk.the big diference is when you compare the total dmge u can deal in 1minute.skill delay equip totally deal more damage. Try join a pt farm crazy boss like almas or whatever crazy boss with your +skill delay equip,im sure u will know why people prefer skill delay.imagine that u need 2-3sec per mp recharge even for ardent you will fail.people that i know who always farm boss prefer skill delay equip.the only reason they not use skill delay is because they still lack in spina to afford it.not mean to provoke u just my opinion on why people complain about skill delay.
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Post by aroxis on Aug 13, 2014 14:51:55 GMT
Skill delay weakens you. It doesn't provide efficient Matk like other armors. This is what separates me from other high wizards. even tho I'm lv209 with no -skill delay my damage out does -skill delay users so what I'm saying is more Matk= highest dmg possible= less need of skill delay. sure people want Skill delay to spam but there's no point of wasting that high amount of money on over priced gears when the guy with +Skill delay does the same damage you'd do in 2-3 hits, while the guy does 1. plus with Max DEX the skill delay isnt event that long so I don't see why people complain... Skill delay its not just for spam skill.its also for mana recharge,mana stock and many more use.i dont know why u not complain about skill delay.i guess u only play your char for leveling.. Dont confuse people saying that your 1hit is equal to 2-3hit from people who use skill delay equip.i got both set and compare the damge,the dmge is just slightly difference between 3.3k matk and 3.5k matk.the big diference is when you compare the total dmge u can deal in 1minute.skill delay equip totally deal more damage. Try join a pt farm crazy boss like almas or whatever crazy boss with your +skill delay equip,im sure u will know why people prefer skill delay.imagine that u need 2-3sec per mp recharge even for ardent you will fail.people that i know who always farm boss prefer skill delay equip.the only reason they not use skill delay is because they still lack in spina to afford it.not mean to provoke u just my opinion on why people complain about skill delay. I am a hw and I agree with this 100%
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Post by Alfamale on Aug 14, 2014 0:05:22 GMT
Skill delay weakens you. It doesn't provide efficient Matk like other armors. This is what separates me from other high wizards. even tho I'm lv209 with no -skill delay my damage out does -skill delay users so what I'm saying is more Matk= highest dmg possible= less need of skill delay. sure people want Skill delay to spam but there's no point of wasting that high amount of money on over priced gears when the guy with +Skill delay does the same damage you'd do in 2-3 hits, while the guy does 1. plus with Max DEX the skill delay isnt event that long so I don't see why people complain... Skill delay its not just for spam skill.its also for mana recharge,mana stock and many more use.i dont know why u not complain about skill delay.i guess u only play your char for leveling.. Dont confuse people saying that your 1hit is equal to 2-3hit from people who use skill delay equip.i got both set and compare the damge,the dmge is just slightly difference between 3.3k matk and 3.5k matk.the big diference is when you compare the total dmge u can deal in 1minute.skill delay equip totally deal more damage. Try join a pt farm crazy boss like almas or whatever crazy boss with your +skill delay equip,im sure u will know why people prefer skill delay.imagine that u need 2-3sec per mp recharge even for ardent you will fail.people that i know who always farm boss prefer skill delay equip.the only reason they not use skill delay is because they still lack in spina to afford it.not mean to provoke u just my opinion on why people complain about skill delay. You've obviously need to really actually try being both. With a full -skill delay/matk xtal set you'd get around 3.5k matk. With a full +skill delay/matk xtal set you'll have 4k give or take. I've been a high wizard ever since. And believe me I know which does better/more dmg + being able to mp recharge its called timing. You don't need - skill delay equips to mp recharge because you can recharge a pt in 2-3 secs with + skill delay. With - skill delay 2 secs. My damage can up keep with - skill delay mana stock hwiz btw, and I'm 11 lvls short of getting mana stock. High wizards aren't about speed. I never knew high wizards for speed but for power, And - skill delay is just barely...just barely faster than a non - skill delay user. I was a - skill delay user for a short period. I've tried every build there is and set for high wiz's none compare to the ones with more power.
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Post by aroxis on Aug 15, 2014 5:01:39 GMT
Oh? Then lets make a fake scenairo to see which build will actually work better :3
HIGH WIZARD #1 Resty rod/gerust (+30%) Dragon Mail/Moldus(+20%) Viola/gerust (+24%) S.bangle
Total magic atk : +74% matk Total skill delay : +1.5 seconds (Factoring the -1 sec delay from max dex)
HIGH WIZARD #2 Solve rod/gerust (+27%) Ultimi/moldus (+20%) Mercure/dunkelis (+19) ......Mercure gives 6% matk rite?.... .-.
Total magic atk : 66% matk Total skill delay : -1.7 seconds (Factoring the -1 sec delay from max dex)
Now that we have all the numbers layed out lets apply them to a skill...
EARTHQUAKE
Now lets say that it takes 2 seconds to cast EQ with max dex and it has a 4 sec cooldown... (no modifiers)
Now with HW #1 it will take 3 seconds to cast and almost 6 seconds to cooldown (5.5 second to be accurate) Which is basically 10 seconds in between EQ's
Now with HW#2 will take 2 seconds to cast and approx. 2 seconds to cooldown (2.3 sec to be exact) which is basically 4-5 seconds between EQ And Tbh if its gonna take me twice as long to give an EQ that is 8% stronger, its not worth it. In fact every 10 seconds the cooldown build is dealing 80% more dmg than the heavy dmg build is.
There you go.
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Post by mrkuppel on Aug 17, 2014 5:32:19 GMT
Oh? Then lets make a fake scenairo to see which build will actually work better :3
HIGH WIZARD #1 Resty rod/gerust (+30%) Dragon Mail/Moldus(+20%) Viola/gerust (+24%) S.bangle
Total magic atk : +74% matk Total skill delay : +1.5 seconds (Factoring the -1 sec delay from max dex)
HIGH WIZARD #2 Solve rod/gerust (+27%) Ultimi/moldus (+20%) Mercure/dunkelis (+19) ......Mercure gives 6% matk rite?.... .-.
Total magic atk : 66% matk Total skill delay : -1.7 seconds (Factoring the -1 sec delay from max dex)
Now that we have all the numbers layed out lets apply them to a skill...
EARTHQUAKE
Now lets say that it takes 2 seconds to cast EQ with max dex and it has a 4 sec cooldown... (no modifiers)
Now with HW #1 it will take 3 seconds to cast and almost 6 seconds to cooldown (5.5 second to be accurate) Which is basically 10 seconds in between EQ's
Now with HW#2 will take 2 seconds to cast and approx. 2 seconds to cooldown (2.3 sec to be exact) which is basically 4-5 seconds between EQ And Tbh if its gonna take me twice as long to give an EQ that is 8% stronger, its not worth it. In fact every 10 seconds the cooldown build is dealing 80% more dmg than the heavy dmg build is.
There you go.
I'm almost hw #2 i just have 2 fg and hp 20
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Post by Alfamale on Aug 18, 2014 0:09:55 GMT
Oh? Then lets make a fake scenairo to see which build will actually work better :3
HIGH WIZARD #1 Resty rod/gerust (+30%) Dragon Mail/Moldus(+20%) Viola/gerust (+24%) S.bangle
Total magic atk : +74% matk Total skill delay : +1.5 seconds (Factoring the -1 sec delay from max dex)
HIGH WIZARD #2 Solve rod/gerust (+27%) Ultimi/moldus (+20%) Mercure/dunkelis (+19) ......Mercure gives 6% matk rite?.... .-.
Total magic atk : 66% matk Total skill delay : -1.7 seconds (Factoring the -1 sec delay from max dex)
Now that we have all the numbers layed out lets apply them to a skill...
EARTHQUAKE
Now lets say that it takes 2 seconds to cast EQ with max dex and it has a 4 sec cooldown... (no modifiers)
Now with HW #1 it will take 3 seconds to cast and almost 6 seconds to cooldown (5.5 second to be accurate) Which is basically 10 seconds in between EQ's
Now with HW#2 will take 2 seconds to cast and approx. 2 seconds to cooldown (2.3 sec to be exact) which is basically 4-5 seconds between EQ And Tbh if its gonna take me twice as long to give an EQ that is 8% stronger, its not worth it. In fact every 10 seconds the cooldown build is dealing 80% more dmg than the heavy dmg build is.
There you go.
Resty rod buff reacts nearly every time you're hit(including aoe hits/bursts). Which is +50% Matk, Dragon mail has a 4-5k counter attack, viola does 10-15k counter attacks so often it's basically a double attack equip for high wizards. That's basically a total of 124% Matk. The question about EQ. It wouldn't take 10 seconds between each cast as with + skill delay equips. It's roughly 5-6 seconds. With viola equipped it's just barely any difference in casting.
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Post by aroxis on Aug 18, 2014 17:49:00 GMT
Resty rod buff reacts nearly every time you're hit(including aoe hits/bursts). Which is +50% Matk, Dragon mail has a 4-5k counter attack, viola does 10-15k counter attacks so often it's basically a double attack equip for high wizards. That's basically a total of 124% Matk. The question about EQ. It wouldn't take 10 seconds between each cast as with + skill delay equips. It's roughly 5-6 seconds. With viola equipped it's just barely any difference in casting.I dont really understand here...do you like lvl solo all the time because I Have i hw and i rarely get hit in pts...When im farming mega...i usually have a pally or glad to keep hate another hw and a bishop with me...and im not dumb enough to stand right next to the mega hoping i get hit so my resty and viola will proc causing the bishop to stop spamming neme and healing me lowering the overall dps of the party. And when exactly does a high wizard get hit during boss farms for these buffs to activate? All this counter atk stuff is kinda worthless when you are in a party lmao. In a party leveling or farming, you are still gonna get out dps by the cooldown hw lmao. And btw what calculations did you do to get that "total of 124% matk"? Also if you looked at what i said i said its a fake scenario, so this may not be exactly like your toon but i set both high wizards to the same standards and one still out dpsed the other. You also talked about viola has almost no effect on casting. Yep it probaly doesnt if it takes 2 seconds to cast normally, now it takes 3 seconds, no problem for you but every second counts for a cooldown hw so viola wont work since it makes them slower and clunkier
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