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Post by crazybrker on Jul 21, 2014 5:47:47 GMT
Haha ok that's the one
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Post by Tyranull on Jul 21, 2014 17:19:25 GMT
Crimson ribbon gives ATKSPD +100% so you only need 41 AGI to hit max attack speed. Low AGI helps you get hit a lot too. Sofy does a light element counter attack on defense and procures pretty often. VS some dark mobs it was doing around 7300 dmg. So I max out at around 22k per counter with 3 xtals. If everything were perfect and you had 4 mobs attacking you at the same time you you could put out 88k damage in that instant... That is the max possible and would most likely never happen. But i can dream... =). You can also do damage while running away, stunned or paralyzed. More perks of this build. Give it a shot and have fun. Dealing damage without attacking is my main way of dealing damage. I dont like how most other matk Crysta work, so instead of focusing on my enchant weapon damage, I focus on taking hits to deal set damage (damage corresponds to level). Really makes me helpful against certain bosses, but when I deal with slow bosses that hit hard, I am close to useless since my usual enchant weapon damage is 2.1k-3.9k.
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Post by crazybrker on Jul 22, 2014 3:39:35 GMT
That is the downfall of the build. We also don't hold agro well. So if you party with a ninja or something, you will rarely get hit and thus, deal no damage... That's the main reason that I switched back to an offensive build.
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Post by Tyranull on Jul 28, 2014 15:35:05 GMT
Update: Judgement@175 slot(Clean) Dragon Mail @10 Def13 slot(Schlingle came with it when bought for 9m) Mir Symbol slot (Forgot Def, garel) Lotus seeds ns (still aiming for slot) Basically, I have put a lot of thought unto this, and the finished product of this build will be all ziddu xtals, intelligence on nail, vitality on armor, autoskill on additional and whatever special equips can get of they have anything for ability. By maximizing my autoskill chance, I get more counters to defend while I drain and all that good stuff, and also deal optimal damage against fast mobs like ganei or Botanian. Pretty much I look to boost my tanking ability as well as dps with boosting our main type of battling style, autoskill usage. This may get a bit more expensive than the usual enchanter recommended equips, but it sure is fun. ziddu only give autosill on weapon Incorrect. I actually have the xtal, and it gives autoskill3% as the base stat. Only the hate rise-5% and atk+5% are if applied to weapon. Anyway, gonna go back to my original plan and use all Ziddu.
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Post by Umaru-chan on Aug 14, 2014 0:17:02 GMT
Tyranull here. I am almost completely positive I am the first one to make a set that increases tanking tenfold. My set, as the thread title states, is of the counter variety. Basically, the counters I use shield me from damage (Does not appear as 0 damage so I get lots of mp from taking hits), and has a chance of replenishing my HP when I counter; by chance. My set: Judgement ns D Mail ns Mir Symbol ns Lotus Seeds ns (Don't judge me by my ns, I am broke and I am proud). I have no idea which item gives me HP when I counter, judgement or d mail, could potentially be both; but my damage per counter is 3460 on each equip, making up for my lack of dps from being a tank. Yesterday my counter damage before I leveled was 3440 so counter damage may vary in level (unless my vit increase had something to do with it). I feel like all ench under level 160 should use this set since it can be used as stoneskin or even replace it for the higher level ench. Didn't have to use stone skin once at DDF or Kaise Piltz. Just a thing I encourage us enchanters to try. Is the Counter dmg of Judgement the same as that of D. mail's (Fixed dmg)? or is it based on your atk?
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Post by Stacy's Mom on Aug 14, 2014 0:58:59 GMT
Done and done! Counter Attack Enchanter here! My stats are: INT - 256 VIT - 256 (for good solo/bosses without HP equipment) AGI - 41 (for max aspd w/ crimson ribbon but low enough to get hit EVERY time) DEX - 140+ til MAXED Current gear: Dia Espada - FG Dragon Mail - Sofy Crimson Ribbon - Sofy (Light element counter autoskill) Dragonnewt Bangle - Sofy or just reduce bangle Pros: 2 Attack autoskills (enchant and Dia)and 3 counter autoskills (Sofy), good damage because that normally go to AGI are put into dex for damage, great survivability (16k HP base, 19k with MB3). Good for fighting multiple mobs, due to the counter autoskills. Just cast drain on as many mobs as you can as fast as you can. With max INT/VIT you defense it high enough that the drain will be more than the damage you receive. I can string 4+ mobs before they start dieing off. You also have an amazing MP heal of 4k. Cons: Lose out on Ciel's offensive autoskill, and requires you to get hit to get to do more damage. Light element mobs are an issue too. Neutral element counter xtals would be nice... Maybe in the future. you could go even ballzier with the counters and go with a resty rod, with best xtal being gerust.
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Post by crazybrker on Aug 16, 2014 15:59:11 GMT
^ Agreed. Resty worked amazingly well with this build. With damages to roches hitting between 8-10k during boost with full dps gear. Boost triggers itself, you just kick back and drain once in a while.
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Post by Stacy's Mom on Aug 16, 2014 16:10:50 GMT
^ Agreed. Resty worked amazingly well with this build. With damages to roches hitting between 8-10k during boost with full dps gear. Boost triggers itself, you just kick back and drain once in a while. btw kudos on coming up with using scarlet ribbon for the aspd, i had thought of the counter chanter but the issue was the max aspd, since 170 agi is a fairly high amount of eva later on.
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Post by Tyranull on Aug 16, 2014 18:14:49 GMT
Tyranull here. I am almost completely positive I am the first one to make a set that increases tanking tenfold. My set, as the thread title states, is of the counter variety. Basically, the counters I use shield me from damage (Does not appear as 0 damage so I get lots of mp from taking hits), and has a chance of replenishing my HP when I counter; by chance. My set: Judgement ns D Mail ns Mir Symbol ns Lotus Seeds ns (Don't judge me by my ns, I am broke and I am proud). I have no idea which item gives me HP when I counter, judgement or d mail, could potentially be both; but my damage per counter is 3460 on each equip, making up for my lack of dps from being a tank. Yesterday my counter damage before I leveled was 3440 so counter damage may vary in level (unless my vit increase had something to do with it). I feel like all ench under level 160 should use this set since it can be used as stoneskin or even replace it for the higher level ench. Didn't have to use stone skin once at DDF or Kaise Piltz. Just a thing I encourage us enchanters to try. Is the Counter dmg of Judgement the same as that of D. mail's (Fixed dmg)? or is it based on your atk? It is the same as d mail.
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Post by sencka on Sept 4, 2014 6:22:58 GMT
Update: Judgement@175 slot(Clean) Dragon Mail @10 Def13 slot(Schlingle came with it when bought for 9m) Mir Symbol slot (Forgot Def, garel) Lotus seeds ns (still aiming for slot) Basically, I have put a lot of thought unto this, and the finished product of this build will be all ziddu xtals, intelligence on nail, vitality on armor, autoskill on additional and whatever special equips can get of they have anything for ability. By maximizing my autoskill chance, I get more counters to defend while I drain and all that good stuff, and also deal optimal damage against fast mobs like ganei or Botanian. Pretty much I look to boost my tanking ability as well as dps with boosting our main type of battling style, autoskill usage. This may get a bit more expensive than the usual enchanter recommended equips, but it sure is fun. i suggest use ifrit or gusanoth ^^
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Post by MadMoon on Sept 15, 2014 1:17:39 GMT
tried it!! so damm awesome!!!
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elias
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The strength of a knight, the wisdom of a wizard. I am a magic warrior, I am an Enchanter!
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Post by elias on Sept 22, 2014 20:34:03 GMT
Counter enchanter in progress here!
Level: 141 atm
Int max Vit around 150 (dont remember xD) Agi 40
Equip: Laevatein ns (cant afford slot e.e) Dpr up sofys Mir symbol clean Dragonewt bangle hp+20%
Just turned into full class and i reach 10k hp with magic barrier 2. The sofys xtal works wonders, hits around 3.5-4.5k and procs about 50% of the time with draw 2, a lot more than dpr's counter. Even so i made the mistake of placing sofys in dpr and not in mir first so i could have 2 counters (silly me xD)
Still need someone who sells another sofys to cover that clean slot. I could buy 2 but don't have enough spina xD
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elias
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The strength of a knight, the wisdom of a wizard. I am a magic warrior, I am an Enchanter!
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Post by elias on Sept 26, 2014 20:41:02 GMT
Update: Counter Enchanter lv160
Int max, vit 194 (until 200), agi 40, dex will be rest
Got my 2nd sofys for my mir and now things got better, can solo Finstern thanks to stone skin *-* and each counter deals 5k damage (10k when both trigger). Survivabilty increased tenfold thanks to stone skin + my 15k hp.
Next target may be to switch beteen sofys equip and spell boost equip to increase counters even more..
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Post by Stacy's Mom on Sept 26, 2014 20:44:27 GMT
Update: Counter Enchanter lv160 Int max, vit 194 (until 200), agi 40, dex will be rest Got my 2nd sofys for my mir and now things got better, can solo Finstern thanks to stone skin *-* and each counter deals 5k damage (10k when both trigger). Survivabilty increased tenfold thanks to stone skin + my 15k hp. Next target may be to switch beteen sofys equip and spell boost equip to increase counters even more.. try going for a resty rod instead of switching out equips to spellboost.
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elias
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The strength of a knight, the wisdom of a wizard. I am a magic warrior, I am an Enchanter!
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Post by elias on Sept 26, 2014 20:52:03 GMT
Update: Counter Enchanter lv160 Int max, vit 194 (until 200), agi 40, dex will be rest Got my 2nd sofys for my mir and now things got better, can solo Finstern thanks to stone skin *-* and each counter deals 5k damage (10k when both trigger). Survivabilty increased tenfold thanks to stone skin + my 15k hp. Next target may be to switch beteen sofys equip and spell boost equip to increase counters even more.. try going for a resty rod instead of switching out equips to spellboost. Hmmm... What would be te effect if we used spellboost + resty buff?? The answer is... COUNTER DA HELL OUT OF THEM ALL!! PD: price of resty slot? XD
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