Koikoi
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is coming back to Iruna ( I think) haha!
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Post by Koikoi on Jul 5, 2014 22:22:08 GMT
♡（ゝ。∂）♥ Lvl 189 Max int 50 vit 140 agi 140-ish dex and adding rest of stats on dex for the rest of my life Weapon: Dia Espada/kaiser Armor: Dpr/Fg Gear: Ciel/kaiser Special: reduce bangle Wanting to be stronger as in to do more damage with my autoskills. Not focusing much on survivability, currently content with it  Thanks! |
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Post by ManaKhe on Jul 5, 2014 22:39:25 GMT
♡（ゝ。∂）♥ Lvl 189 Max int 50 vit 140 agi 140-ish dex and adding rest of stats on dex for the rest of my life Weapon: Dia Espada/kaiser Armor: Dpr/Fg Gear: Ciel/kaiser Special: reduce bangle Wanting to be stronger as in to do more damage with my autoskills. Not focusing much on survivability, currently content with it Thanks! Switch Kaisers with FG/Gerust/Mezzaluna/Beelzetor/Isurugi. |
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Koikoi
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is coming back to Iruna ( I think) haha!
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Post by Koikoi on Jul 5, 2014 23:24:26 GMT
♡（ゝ。∂）♥ Lvl 189 Max int 50 vit 140 agi 140-ish dex and adding rest of stats on dex for the rest of my life Weapon: Dia Espada/kaiser Armor: Dpr/Fg Gear: Ciel/kaiser Special: reduce bangle Wanting to be stronger as in to do more damage with my autoskills. Not focusing much on survivability, currently content with it Thanks! Switch Kaisers with FG/Gerust/Mezzaluna/Beelzetor/Isurugi. ♡（ゝ。∂）♥ Thanks! I'll check on the stats and rokoko prices XD |
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tasm
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Dead bones for sale... ~
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Post by tasm on Jul 6, 2014 13:50:43 GMT
Grab a spellboost. xD (Gerust won't have longevity, btw. Soon, we need -skill delay. [We actually already need it some / it cuts rebuff time which increase dps, but soon we need it for dps directly] So, it becomes a poor choice of xtal. )
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 14:11:47 GMT
i'm with tasm. you need -skill delay in the near future instead of going crazily over matk since magic sword don't fancy quick casting/skill delay as staffs does. you should check future skills now and build for it so you wont fail to compete in damage arena. especially the android/IOS-exclusive skill is next on the list to be released. |
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Post by kafuka on Jul 7, 2014 4:07:50 GMT
i'm with tasm. you need -skill delay in the near future instead of going crazily over matk since magic sword don't fancy quick casting/skill delay as staffs does. you should check future skills now and build for it so you wont fail to compete in damage arena. especially the android/IOS-exclusive skill is next on the list to be released. There are gonna be different skills for ios and android? That's weird.. for every class? Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 |
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Aerokun
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Finally got mezza xtal. slight symptoms of happiness were found.
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Post by Aerokun on Jul 7, 2014 6:34:18 GMT
i'm with tasm. you need -skill delay in the near future instead of going crazily over matk since magic sword don't fancy quick casting/skill delay as staffs does. you should check future skills now and build for it so you wont fail to compete in damage arena. especially the android/IOS-exclusive skill is next on the list to be released. There are gonna be different skills for ios and android? That's weird.. for every class? Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 No, I think it's the skills are different from the original i-mode version of iruna both the ios and android would get the same skills. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 8:05:01 GMT
i'm with tasm. you need -skill delay in the near future instead of going crazily over matk since magic sword don't fancy quick casting/skill delay as staffs does. you should check future skills now and build for it so you wont fail to compete in damage arena. especially the android/IOS-exclusive skill is next on the list to be released. There are gonna be different skills for ios and android? That's weird.. for every class? Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 IOS & Android will have the same skill that differs from imode. not every class but enchanter is listed to have new skills. gone is the long-awaited aspd+20% buff. if i'm not mistaken only enchanter & gladiator will get 2 new skills. other class only get 1. edited: this is out of subject. stick to the topic before getting "stick to the topic" notice from CrystalQ. |
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Post by ManaKhe on Jul 8, 2014 3:11:59 GMT
i'm with tasm. you need -skill delay in the near future instead of going crazily over matk since magic sword don't fancy quick casting/skill delay as staffs does. you should check future skills now and build for it so you wont fail to compete in damage arena. especially the android/IOS-exclusive skill is next on the list to be released. Are you sure we will need -skill delay gear? If it is at the fastest skill delay with max DEX than Gerust would be completely plausible. It also says this on JP Wiki for the skill: Reduce up to 0 seconds cast time. This could mean with Staff but I doubt they would make Enchanters a staff only class since they are the only class that REALLY utilizes Magic Swords and other Magic Weapons. It's mostly speculation unless someone who plays a high level Enchanter in JP comes and explains the skill further anyways though. So we shall see! Hopefully Msword AND Staff are both good options with this skill though. Bleh should probably make a separate post about this sometime in the near future. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 3:39:28 GMT
i'm with tasm. you need -skill delay in the near future instead of going crazily over matk since magic sword don't fancy quick casting/skill delay as staffs does. you should check future skills now and build for it so you wont fail to compete in damage arena. especially the android/IOS-exclusive skill is next on the list to be released. Are you sure we will need -skill delay gear? If it is at the fastest skill delay with max DEX than Gerust would be completely plausible. It also says this on JP Wiki for the skill: Reduce up to 0 seconds cast time. This could mean with Staff but I doubt they would make Enchanters a staff only class since they are the only class that REALLY utilizes Magic Swords and other Magic Weapons. It's mostly speculation unless someone who plays a high level Enchanter in JP comes and explains the skill further anyways though. So we shall see! Hopefully Msword AND Staff are both good options with this skill though. Bleh should probably make a separate post about this sometime in the near future. you said it. reduce up to 0 second cast time. not skill delay. why is gerust not recommended?: *because it adds skill delay by second. which means even dex cap break wont reduce it. only gear will. enchanter wont be insert-weapon-type-here only class. i'v seen the skill in POV. the skill is quick because the enchanter using it maxed her dex and use throwing weapon. never claim staff will be superior here. just pointing out that msword wont trigger autoskill if you're spamming it. what's hexe without its mwave? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 3:53:48 GMT
its completely fine to spam it with any weapon of your choice but just wanna point that everybody knows staff will reduce cast/skill delay noticeably. its a spam skill and which enchanter so far has max their dex for it? this is a suggestion. not an order.
i'm a cane user and i understand cane is lame in enchanter term so i'm not trying to make anyone use cane and deal low dmg like me. cane deals low dmg. cane is not as superior as throwing weapon & magic weapons.
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tasm
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Post by tasm on Jul 8, 2014 18:00:13 GMT
ManaKheBasically everything above. The fastest casting speeds are gained through using either throwing knives or staffs/magic wands. So, for a spammable skill those are ideal. Skill delay + is just bad anyway you cut it because the matk/dmg gained doesn't equal or exceed the dps lost due to slower casting speeds. Moreover, the alternative xtals have a small matk% difference when compared to Gerust. I always say that Enchanter playstyle is very variable. For this particular skill, which will be our strongest skill for a while, skill delay - is a must. The fastest possible casting speeds are a must. However, for example an autohitting strategy, Gerust might be viable. But that strategy will at least for some lenght of time be completely overwhelmed by the sheer power/strength/etc. of the new spammable skill. Maybe later at the 280 skill quest or beyond, the autohitting strategy might be a more viable/stronger option. Nevertheless, in the very near future, it's one of the weaker playstyles/strategies that an Enchanter level 220/240+ can choose.
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Post by ManaKhe on Jul 9, 2014 1:46:28 GMT
If you have reached the fastest skill delay without using gear than Gerust won't hurt at all really. Use an Excelis UP with it. Your skill delay won't change at that point.
Dia Espada has Neutral Magic+10%. I'm fairly certain this magic part of the skill is Neutral Magic. Therefore it should boost at least that part.
I wouldn't be surprised if Throwing is the best for it considering Fuma's stats though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 2:19:32 GMT
If you have reached the fastest skill delay without using gear then Gerust won't hurt at all really. Use an Exelis UP with it. Your skill delay won't change at that point. Dia Espada has Neutral Magic+10%. I'm fairly certain this magic part of the skill is Neutral Magic. Therefore it should boost at least that part. I wouldn't be surprised if Throwing is the best for it considering Fuma's stats though. i did mention fuma months before on your old thread. anyways, old things aside, yes this magic is non-elemental. you got some good point up. true. gerust wont hurt at all once you capped your skill delay. simple question. if you maxed your int at 256, dump some agi say 140 for aspd cap, a little dex for hit rate like most people do say 70-ish, the rest for survival so all other points to vit. with this evenly distributed stat, at what level will you cap your skill delay? of course, there's no pride in building an enchanter because stefly is too cheap. |
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