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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2014 5:01:58 GMT
imode wiki are not behind. check the update log. the skills are complete and imode updates lately focused on fixing and adjusting skill. there's no new skill other than stated in wiki with the exception of Android / IOS version's skill e.g new version magic blade, sword pillar, massive skin, power enhancement etc. Theres a lot we dont know. A lot you dont know. Some matery info was added. Not all, just checked. Do u know exactly how effecient the high lv skills are? The other types of crysta and all that? My point was...nvm told myself im not gana debate with somepeople. Lol we are not debating. i'm just telling you what you need to know since i also check update logs for imode regularly and im pretty sure you missed that. about AI crysta yes i know about it. its multi colored and different color combination will grant different stat. it is used after ep3 mission which will add a button under status that you can click to switch between normal stat and released stat. on the left hand corner is where you put your AI crysta in. enough detail? i know the skill used by the bishop in the video is bright heal that cures status ailment because i'v watched that video before this thread came out. not saying i know everything in game but the wiki itself is not as behind as you see. it is not regularly update just because everything introduced in imode that is bugged will be fixed first before other new content is released. especially cadal alexio skill which requires several update to fix everything.
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Post by ainfinit on Jun 25, 2014 5:25:00 GMT
Theres a lot we dont know. A lot you dont know. Some matery info was added. Not all, just checked. Do u know exactly how effecient the high lv skills are? The other types of crysta and all that? My point was...nvm told myself im not gana debate with somepeople. Lol we are not debating. i'm just telling you what you need to know since i also check update logs for imode regularly and im pretty sure you missed that. about AI crysta yes i know about it. its multi colored and different color combination will grant different stat. it is used after ep3 mission which will add a button under status that you can click to switch between normal stat and released stat. on the left hand corner is where you put your AI crysta in. enough detail? i know the skill used by the bishop in the video is bright heal that cures status ailment because i'v watched that video before this thread came out. not saying i know everything in game but the wiki itself is not as behind as you see. it is not regularly update just because everything introduced in imode that is bugged will be fixed first before other new content is released. especially cadal alexio skill which requires several update to fix everything. Stick to the point. Magic sword att bishops. Not . Oh hey wiki is updated and blah blah. And everything is not up to date, and i doubt u researched everything about magic sword n gear a sword bishop could use. That was my point. No need for a forum know it all that acntually doesnt know it all. Dam im only gana open guild area from now on. Look at monk mastery. And everything isnt added. How much does job mastery give? stat whose? People in i-mode have a idea n know more details ehich are not added in wiki. Thus, wiki is not what we would call up to date. Ok so u know a lil about the crystas, but u dont know as much as u think. You read about it, or you watch famines video of it. Thats not enof to claim you know. Dam people gettin ahead of themzelfs on here. Peace out. Stickin to guild section.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2014 7:49:52 GMT
we are not debating. i'm just telling you what you need to know since i also check update logs for imode regularly and im pretty sure you missed that. about AI crysta yes i know about it. its multi colored and different color combination will grant different stat. it is used after ep3 mission which will add a button under status that you can click to switch between normal stat and released stat. on the left hand corner is where you put your AI crysta in. enough detail? i know the skill used by the bishop in the video is bright heal that cures status ailment because i'v watched that video before this thread came out. not saying i know everything in game but the wiki itself is not as behind as you see. it is not regularly update just because everything introduced in imode that is bugged will be fixed first before other new content is released. especially cadal alexio skill which requires several update to fix everything. Stick to the point. Magic sword att bishops. Not . Oh hey wiki is updated and blah blah. And everything is not up to date, and i doubt u researched everything about magic sword n gear a sword bishop could use. That was my point. No need for a forum know it all that acntually doesnt know it all. Dam im only gana open guild area from now on. Look at monk mastery. And everything isnt added. How much does job mastery give? stat whose? People in i-mode have a idea n know more details ehich are not added in wiki. Thus, wiki is not what we would call up to date. Ok so u know a lil about the crystas, but u dont know as much as u think. You read about it, or you watch famines video of it. Thats not enof to claim you know. Dam people gettin ahead of themzelfs on here. Peace out. Stickin to guild section. *you doubt i do a research on magic sword? big lol here. i'm an enchanter and you're not even a wizard before you go ninja. *there is a section in wiki describing job bonus and you said its not up to date with those info? monk's claw mastery add 6% atk. where do i know this if its not there in wiki? divine intervention? lift your finger to search before somebody lift their finger to correct you. i'm giving info here and you go hell fire questioning about what i know all the sudden. what's wrong with you?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2014 12:04:42 GMT
STICK TO THE POINT
After seeing the level 340 bishop take on Raaton single handedly, I was inspired to create this. Any thoughts? Click here.
The point is to tell your thoughts on lvl 340 bishop taking on Raaton
not wiki not research ~ not even imode grrr..
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Post by Krish (Retired Player) on Jun 28, 2014 17:38:09 GMT
STICK TO THE POINT After seeing the level 340 bishop take on Raaton single handedly, I was inspired to create this. Any thoughts? Click here. The point is to tell your thoughts on lvl 340 bishop taking on Raaton not wiki not research ~ not even imode grrr.. Yes, that was the entire point of this thread. Anyhow, I've made a vast improvement on everything you guys have said in comparison, and here is the new video. Also, my previous video was renamed to "Sword Bishop." This video is me soloing Mezzaluna. My next video will be focused on Gadave or Morisaki no Ryu. Click here.
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Post by Krish (Retired Player) on Jun 28, 2014 19:11:15 GMT
I'd say however that this was just a test. Hopefully later on I could be able to solo more bosses than what meets the eye. Us bishop can already take on alota difficult bosses .At ur lvl ,FG should be under 30 secs kill . Here's a few vids of what bishop can do . Except that those guys are all using holy light. I have my devastating damage with holy light already. (Raziel Code Gerust, Magic Robe FG, Witch Hat FG, and Magic Amp.) It just seems that i wanted to test out my magic sword build, and see if it would make a difference. Very soon it will.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jun 30, 2014 1:08:39 GMT
STICK TO THE POINT After seeing the level 340 bishop take on Raaton single handedly, I was inspired to create this. Any thoughts? Click here. The point is to tell your thoughts on lvl 340 bishop taking on Raaton not wiki not research ~ not even imode grrr.. Yes, that was the entire point of this thread. Anyhow, I've made a vast improvement on everything you guys have said in comparison, and here is the new video. Also, my previous video was renamed to "Sword Bishop." This video is me soloing Mezzaluna. My next video will be focused on Gadave or Morisaki no Ryu. Click here.Mezza is a bad choice of boss to kill with a Dia Espada as you get damage penalty to Non-element. I really think you are doing poorly in a DPS perspective. It needs alot of improvement and I don't think it is because of stat point limitation because at lvl230 you have enough to max 2 stats and have lots of spare. What stats and gear are you using now? Did you up your Dia and have you +9 it? Sorry but 600dmg is really low even with the atk penalty from Dia.
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Post by Tilt*Madara on Jun 30, 2014 2:21:09 GMT
While i am a fan of the experiments, im not sure a magic sword bishop would really be worth it. In your video vs mezzaluna you did actually die and was saved by your pet so the magic sword bishops soloing abilities was void there.
From what i see the strategy is a basic auto attack. An auto attack with no crt in fact. Auto attack with no crt equals slow kills. Slow kills result in more chances for the boss to take over as shown in the mezza video, which may have ended better with higher dps.
However i could see this being well worth it if you had crt as the 2nd maxed stat and the rest agi while using an aules gale or sinbad2. That would give it plenty of magic and melee defenses.
I suppose that when its down to the core, it is just a nemisis build with a sword so the biggest advantage to your build is being able to switch back to a normal bishop playstyle at will. Im also happy that the barrage of forum haters did not attack your build and accepted it as an experiment.
However like i said above, from the view of a fellow bishop experiment maker, i cant imagine an auto attack with no crt being any real force to be reckoned with after that big fish boss after fg with the exception of a few simple bosses like ghoulie. I also couldnt help but notice the agility buff you had when fighting against false grecia so that solo could also be counted as void.
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Post by crazybrker on Jul 1, 2014 6:35:13 GMT
I think it's a cool idea! I think it would be more of an alt set for when you go against MP delete bosses. Auto attacking with sword will keep you useful while waiting for bless to recover your MP. I encourage looking into the flexibility of your build. Good to have sets:
Heal Set MP Delete magic sword set Weak multi-mob nemesis set Tank set?
Playing the different roles keeps it interesting for sure. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by Krish (Retired Player) on Jul 2, 2014 6:08:52 GMT
While i am a fan of the experiments, im not sure a magic sword bishop would really be worth it. In your video vs mezzaluna you did actually die and was saved by your pet so the magic sword bishops soloing abilities was void there. From what i see the strategy is a basic auto attack. An auto attack with no crt in fact. Auto attack with no crt equals slow kills. Slow kills result in more chances for the boss to take over as shown in the mezza video, which may have ended better with higher dps. However i could see this being well worth it if you had crt as the 2nd maxed stat and the rest agi while using an aules gale or sinbad2. That would give it plenty of magic and melee defenses. I suppose that when its down to the core, it is just a nemisis build with a sword so the biggest advantage to your build is being able to switch back to a normal bishop playstyle at will. Im also happy that the barrage of forum haters did not attack your build and accepted it as an experiment. However like i said above, from the view of a fellow bishop experiment maker, i cant imagine an auto attack with no crt being any real force to be reckoned with after that big fish boss after fg with the exception of a few simple bosses like ghoulie. I also couldnt help but notice the agility buff you had when fighting against false grecia so that solo could also be counted as void. I know it was pretty bad that I may have died against Mezzaluna, but I'm trying my best to maintain a nemesis stat build as well as a magic sword build. If I were to max crit or any other stat than the current ones I am using, it would ruin the damage. That's why I hope that later on I may be able to do a 4th stat and cap that. INT=256 DEX=256 AGI=188 That Physical attacking bishop we've seen in the past video was a 340. He, without a doubt, has more stats to distribute. Also, that FG kill won't count because I haven't used a magic sword and instead, used a sword.
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Post by Krish (Retired Player) on Jul 2, 2014 6:13:17 GMT
Yes, that was the entire point of this thread. Anyhow, I've made a vast improvement on everything you guys have said in comparison, and here is the new video. Also, my previous video was renamed to "Sword Bishop." This video is me soloing Mezzaluna. My next video will be focused on Gadave or Morisaki no Ryu. Click here. Mezza is a bad choice of boss to kill with a Dia Espada as you get damage penalty to Non-element. I really think you are doing poorly in a DPS perspective. It needs alot of improvement and I don't think it is because of stat point limitation because at lvl230 you have enough to max 2 stats and have lots of spare. What stats and gear are you using now? Did you up your Dia and have you +9 it? Sorry but 600dmg is really low even with the atk penalty from Dia. Dia Espada Attack 171+8 Kaiser. Dark Priest Robe Upg. Defense 10+8 Kaiser. Ciel Defense 6+9 Kaiser. Dragonewt Bangle Matadora. I'm not really expecting the greatest results from my bishop right now, but perhaps later on we might.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 2, 2014 7:32:40 GMT
Mezza is a bad choice of boss to kill with a Dia Espada as you get damage penalty to Non-element. I really think you are doing poorly in a DPS perspective. It needs alot of improvement and I don't think it is because of stat point limitation because at lvl230 you have enough to max 2 stats and have lots of spare. What stats and gear are you using now? Did you up your Dia and have you +9 it? Sorry but 600dmg is really low even with the atk penalty from Dia. Dia Espada Attack 171+8 Kaiser. Dark Priest Robe Upg. Defense 10+8 Kaiser. Ciel Defense 6+9 Kaiser. Dragonewt Bangle Matadora. I'm not really expecting the greatest results from my bishop right now, but perhaps later on we might.Ok after seeing your stat build and gear, I see the problem with your DPS. You are relying on your MATK and Dia's proc for your DPS. I would agree with Tilt*Madara to use CRT instead because you don't have enchanter skills that improve autoskill chances. You will have to rely on your weapon damage and the best auto attack stat would be CRT. However, I understand that you don't want to risk your build since you are doing so well with your nemesis. So you might want to try what I did with my Pally. (I have a video in the Pally section that was able to build a crit berserker without change in stats) Of course you won't deal better DPS than my Pally because I have skills like double attack, battle mastery, warcry and gloria, but I'm pretty sure you will do better than what you have now. Use a throw knife with +30crt rate (Dragon Lore maybe), Schmuck upgraded, and stuff them with Boss Colon. Schwartz up Magonza and RRS Ganei. This should land you with 3k+ single crit damage easily. You will have 45 crit rate (and +5% more from schmuck up) which you can fill up with Technique ability. These are simple gears, so of course with better gear, you can improve your DPS. Alternatively, you can build AGI/INT/CRT and live with lower nemesis and rely on skill reduction gear but have better auto DPS. (maybe boost your auto DPS to around 6k to 8k crit damage, plus you widen your selection of INT weapons). Of course warrior class will do better, but hey, they don't have bless and resurrection.
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Post by aroxis on Jul 2, 2014 7:53:37 GMT
Dia Espada Attack 171+8 Kaiser. Dark Priest Robe Upg. Defense 10+8 Kaiser. Ciel Defense 6+9 Kaiser. Dragonewt Bangle Matadora. I'm not really expecting the greatest results from my bishop right now, but perhaps later on we might. Ok after seeing your stat build and gear, I see the problem with your DPS. You are relying on your MATK and Dia's proc for your DPS. I would agree with Tilt*Madara to use CRT instead because you don't have enchanter skills that improve autoskill chances. You will have to rely on your weapon damage and the best auto attack stat would be CRT. However, I understand that you don't want to risk your build since you are doing so well with your nemesis. So you might want to try what I did with my Pally. (I have a video in the Pally section that was able to build a crit berserker without change in stats) Of course you won't deal better DPS than my Pally because I have skills like double attack, battle mastery, warcry and gloria, but I'm pretty sure you will do better than what you have now. Use a throw knife with +30crt rate (Dragon Lore maybe), Schmuck upgraded, and stuff them with Boss Colon. Schwartz up Magonza and RRS Ganei. This should land you with 3k+ single crit damage easily. You will have 45 crit rate (and +5% more from schmuck up) which you can fill up with Technique ability. These are simple gears, so of course with better gear, you can improve your DPS. Alternatively, you can build AGI/INT/CRT and live with lower nemesis and rely on skill reduction gear but have better auto DPS. (maybe boost your auto DPS to around 6k to 8k crit damage, plus you widen your selection of INT weapons). Of course warrior class will do better, but hey, they don't have bless and resurrection. Or you could get 2 lvl4 tech abi and one lvl 5 cri abi for sword and use aulis gale and slot a himmel somwhere..crit almsot evry hit ^^
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 2, 2014 8:18:22 GMT
Or you could get 2 lvl4 tech abi and one lvl 5 cri abi for sword and use aulis gale and slot a himmel somwhere..crit almsot evry hit ^^ Well yeah, Aulis gale would be a good choice if you don't have enough techniques. But I wouldn't really recommend a Himmel. Slots are too valuable to put a crt rate xtal. These are easily covered by abilities and/or gears.
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Post by skyjaws on Jul 4, 2014 22:52:35 GMT
I use magic sword every once in a while, its really fun, I mean if your bored sure go ahead :3 i sure have fun with it ^.^
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