Koikoi
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is coming back to Iruna ( I think) haha!
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Post by Koikoi on Jun 25, 2014 20:11:35 GMT
♡（ゝ。∂）♥ Wala p ata ako s mq n yn teh haha Sana affordable cya rokoko Not mq boss. Divine tower boss. Goddess(?) of mercy ata ♡（ゝ。∂）♥ Ah wenk. Okay thanks ^^ |
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Illumina
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Post by Illumina on Jul 2, 2014 8:03:41 GMT
Sensya na medyo na adik sa Toram kaya ngayon lang naka post. xD
Yep sa divine tower si Veltria and mercy nga ata. Sya yung may drop din ng 3 tails na color peach or pink.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jul 10, 2014 19:00:39 GMT
Actually ganito, para mas malinawan ka (iyon eh kung magiging malinaw ang aking explanation (>.<)). Ang skill na "Dance of Clones" na sta-stack ang damage nyan. For example ang isang clone nag damage ng 5k, so kung meron kang 9 clones i-multiply mo sya sa 9. 5,000 x 9 = 45,000 <-- yan ang magiging damage mo. Of course hindi yan fix, merong range damage depende sa attack and crit mo. Now, ang tanong naman ngayon pano ka makaka produce ng 9 clones. Initially pwede kang makagawa ng 3 clones sa skill na "Alter Ego". Para naman maka lagpas ka sa 3 clones may isa pang skill na kailangan mong gamitin. Ito ay yung "Desperate Move". Ang requirement nito ay dapat maging less than 10% or 5% ata ang hp mo. Not sure of the percentage, basta nasa bingit ka ng kamatayan, yun na yon xD Pero hindi doon natatapos yan, tulad ng sinabi mo medyo complicated pero pag nasanay ka na, madali lang sya. Habang gumagawa ka ng clones, kailangan mong mag palit palit ng isang klase ng gear para mai-adjust mo ang max hp mo. Yung isang gear eh para fully mapabagsak ang max hp mo sa needed percentage at yung isa ay para itaas ulit ang max hp mo ngunit ang remaining hp mo eh nasa required percentage para ma activate mo ang +2 clones gamit ang Desperate Move. Bigyan kita ng example. Let's pretend naka complete max hp reduction set ka at na achieve mo ang 1 Max HP. Ang gagamitin mong papalit palit na gear ay Schwartz para sa pag complete ng 1 MaxHP set at Thief Garb para maging.. lets say 200+ ang max HP mo. STEPS: - Nag cast ka ng Alter Ego at nagkaroon ka ng 3 clones.
- Nag palit ka ng schwartz para bumaksak ang max hp to 1.
- Nag palit ka ulit ng armor, at ipinalit mo ang Thief garb, naging 200+ ang iyong max hp pero 1 ang remaining hp mo.
- Nag cast ka ng Desperate Move kagad agad habang 1 HP, na heal mo ang sarili mo gamit ang skill na ito at may kasamang +2 clones. Ngayon ay meron ka ng 5 clones.
- Repeat steps 2 to 4 hangang maka ipon ka ng 9 clones.
Hindi mawawala ang clones mo hanggat di ka tinatamaan at di ka nagla-log out. Wala itong time limit. I hope malinaw ang aking taglish at tl;dr na paliwanag. （≧▼≦；) Maraming marami pong salamat! You definitely shined the light on this rather... bizarre (or at least singular!) aspect of the class, lol Papaano po kung mid battle? Kelan ka mag re-cast? I assume you re-cast for long fights since the clones will slowly go away as you get hit Alter-ego - no HP requirement? Poison - if you already have Vaccine, you don't get hit at all? Kasi alam ko vaccine "cleans" you every tick but you can still get poison...tama ba? Lastly, ano recommended gear for a CRT/AGI Nail user? Kasama na reduction gear, and DPS gear if different? |
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Post by Almas on Jul 10, 2014 19:13:49 GMT
Alter ego or bunshin no jutsu po np requirement yan. Instant 3 po.
If poison ka pero under vaccine effect naman, mawawala yun poison before the damage tick so hindi ka madadamay.
Sa gitna ng fight, pwede pa rin naman clone, it takes 3 presses for +2 clones.
Sa sets, wala ako alam diyan xD
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jul 10, 2014 19:21:28 GMT
Salamat po!
I Still need to figure out what kind of Nin I'll make lol, but leaning towards CRT/AGI Nail char. For now, App Wiz alt ko (no pts distributed) para lang maka pag Mana Recharge siya while I dual log on my HW on neks lol.
Papaano evade ng Bow user or Magic Nin? Wala sila AGI?
Btw, gaano po ba kahirap yung class change quest? If I bring a L165 HW and/or L165 Bishop, ok na ba yun? I assume I'll need quest set for each char going in
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Post by Almas on Jul 10, 2014 19:29:55 GMT
Claw type po ang may highest survivality among the ninja types pagkakaalam ko po. Higher evasion means lesser chance of clone being destroyed po. Pero lower damage compared sa bow type.
Magic ninja naman doesn't really depend on 9 clones. Isang bunshin lang. Kasi if you keep cloning, hindi mo masasakto yung sequence of attack ng Magic ninja. They're more of the party type kumbaga po.
Madali lang naman. Provided your bish can tank a few hits. Just let HW paralyze and blind para maganda. Hehe.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jul 10, 2014 20:45:36 GMT
Ah, ok ty. Not that interested with the Magic Nin, but the Bow type is tempting due to the (supposedly) higher DMG output. But I guess they're not as good doing bosses solo?
Eh papaano po ang Throwing? Since NIN have throw bonus, bakit hindi ito ang primary choice?
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Illumina
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Post by Illumina on Jul 10, 2014 20:46:16 GMT
Bunshin no jutsu nga pala name ng Alter Ego sa english, mas naalala ko kasi yung wiki translation. lol! Tnx Almas! xD Gears for AGI/CRT nail, eto para sakin, a combination of evasion, attack and -hp. It's also up to you to mix and match depende sa play style and preference mo and what you can afford. Additional: Ghost Ring Armor: Schwartz UP, Exelis UP, Thief Garb re-UP Weapon: Kodachi II Special: Atleta ring, Powerful ring, Dodge ring Crystals: Ganei, Magonza, Cerberus, Minenaga, Interfike If you get a 2 slot koda, you can place 2 ganei there and put those other attack/crit xtals on your other 1 or 2 gears. Interfike will be the hardest to get, kahit ako wala pa nyan. xD Maganda rin if you consider the cast delay kaya nilagay ko din ang exelis on armor at may kasama pa syang evasion. Pwede mo din kunin sa ability ang cast delay. Ang maganda naman sa thief garb re-UP ay yung melee and magic evasion nya. May na post din akong cheap gear for -HP set Isang option mo din habang wala ka pang ganei. Ghost Ring (Additional) -20% HP Magical Ring (Special) if below lvl 200 -40% hp Schwartz (Armor) -30% HP Sa equips na yan meron ka ng -90% HP, may nagsabi sakin na makakapag summon ka na ng +2 clones sa desperate move kahit -90% or -95%. Pero kung hindi ito effective, may mas murang crystal na nakaka baba ng hp at mas mura sa ganei.. yung blue ogre crystal na nagbibigay ng -10% HP. Hindi rin talaga madaling gamitin ang ninja dahil weak ito sa mga status ailments. Dapat pag aralan mo kung paano mo ito maka-counter and mag form ng strategies kung paano ka makakapag survive at magiging effective na ninja. |
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Illumina
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Post by Illumina on Jul 10, 2014 20:56:48 GMT
Kung may time na magsosolo ka and walang kasamang mp healer, you should also consider owning a Magic Garb or Tunic with jabbek. Gagamitin mo lang sya kung gusto mong umupo at mag regen ng MP at nagtitipid ng mp pots. lol!
Yung throwing kasi mas maganda sya for Magic NIN. Well pwede ka naman mag INT CRT AGI with throwing pero baka mas malakas padin ang CRT AGI STR nail type. Why? with int crit agi you can only boost your atk points and DoC damage from Int and crit. But with CRT AGI STR those 3 stats will boost your DoC damage.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jul 10, 2014 21:16:32 GMT
Bunshin no jutsu nga pala name ng Alter Ego sa english, mas naalala ko kasi yung wiki translation. lol! Tnx Almas! xD Gears for AGI/CRT nail, eto para sakin, a combination of evasion, attack and -hp. It's also up to you to mix and match depende sa play style and preference mo and what you can afford. Additional: Ghost Ring Armor: Schwartz UP, Exelis UP, Thief Garb re-UP Weapon: Kodachi II Special: Atleta ring, Powerful ring, Dodge ring Crystals: Ganei, Magonza, Cerberus, Minenaga, Interfike If you get a 2 slot koda, you can place 2 ganei there and put those other attack/crit xtals on your other 1 or 2 gears. Interfike will be the hardest to get, kahit ako wala pa nyan. xD Maganda rin if you consider the cast delay kaya nilagay ko din ang exelis on armor at may kasama pa syang evasion. Pwede mo din kunin sa ability ang cast delay. Ang maganda naman sa thief garb re-UP ay yung melee and magic evasion nya. May na post din akong cheap gear for -HP set Isang option mo din habang wala ka pang ganei. Ghost Ring (Additional) -20% HP Magical Ring (Special) if below lvl 200 -40% hp Schwartz (Armor) -30% HP Sa equips na yan meron ka ng -90% HP, may nagsabi sakin na makakapag summon ka na ng +2 clones sa desperate move kahit -90% or -95%. Pero kung hindi ito effective, may mas murang crystal na nakaka baba ng hp at mas mura sa ganei.. yung blue ogre crystal na nagbibigay ng -10% HP. Hindi rin talaga madaling gamitin ang ninja dahil weak ito sa mga status ailments. Dapat pag aralan mo kung paano mo ito maka-counter and mag form ng strategies kung paano ka makakapag survive at magiging effective na ninja. Salamat po! Do you know the EVA calc for Ghost Ring? I.e. how much EVA I'll get per AGI? I'm thinking of this set, but there's hardly any evasion%, lol H Helm Up Ganei (-30%) Schwartz Up Ganei (-50%) - (I can't recall if Non UP is only different by the -10% or something else?) swap with Iron Up+20% Koda2 Ganei (-30%) Atleta Ring (Too bad Beelzenoid is STR based or I'd shoot for that on a DCS lol) |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jul 10, 2014 21:17:23 GMT
Kung may time na magsosolo ka and walang kasamang mp healer, you should also consider owning a Magic Garb or Tunic with jabbek. Gagamitin mo lang sya kung gusto mong umupo at mag regen ng MP at nagtitipid ng mp pots. lol! Yung throwing kasi mas maganda sya for Magic NIN. Well pwede ka naman mag INT CRT AGI with throwing pero baka mas malakas padin ang CRT AGI STR nail type. Why? with int crit agi you can only boost your atk points and DoC damage from Int and crit. But with CRT AGI STR those 3 stats will boost your DoC damage. The plan is to solo with this guy, but I can dual/triple log with a HW and Bishop - not as good as it sounds, as it's Very hard to really manage more than one char at a time haha |
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Illumina
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Post by Illumina on Jul 10, 2014 22:30:17 GMT
Jeancarlo, with cap agi, I have 492 evade without g.ring. Evade jumps to 620 with g.ring. Ok naman din ang h.helm kung di mo masyado kailangan ng evade sa boss or mob na pinapatay mo pero kakailanganin mo ung evade talaga sa karamihan ng high level boss para hindi kaagad maubos ang clones mo and mas mataas chance mo mag survive pag na stun ka.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jul 14, 2014 21:42:26 GMT
Jeancarlo, with cap agi, I have 492 evade without g.ring. Evade jumps to 620 with g.ring. Ok naman din ang h.helm kung di mo masyado kailangan ng evade sa boss or mob na pinapatay mo pero kakailanganin mo ung evade talaga sa karamihan ng high level boss para hindi kaagad maubos ang clones mo and mas mataas chance mo mag survive pag na stun ka. Weird... I could have sword I replied to this one already ... Color me impressed! So that's +0.5 EVA per Agi pt. I will look into that once my Agi is higher. Just finished shopping for Nin. Schwartz Up Ganei Horned Helm Up Ganei A165 Koda2 Ganei Atleta Ring I'll get a IronUp +20% for my switch gear Future wise, I will look into EVA and/or CRT DMG once my ATK is higher. Couple of Nins in guild suggests Exe Up, for the skill delay Thank you! |
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Illumina
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Post by Illumina on Jul 15, 2014 11:18:24 GMT
Jeancarlo, yes you'll get the most benefit from Exe UP. It is good for -cast delay, +atk, and +evade.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jul 17, 2014 23:16:15 GMT
Illumina, I accidentally bought a G ring Ganei lol (someone sold it 12M), so now I have that and the H Helm Up Ganei.
Sine G Ring also comes with -20 HP, I can actually get different xtal on my Schwartz
Koda2 Ganei - 30
SchwartzUp - 20
G Ring Ganei -50
= -100% HP
What do you think? Was thinking mininaga for the CRT DMG?
Alternatively, once I have one, I could slot ganei on a EXE up? and make that as my main body piece.
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