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Post by _Liu_ n Krogerk on Dec 14, 2021 8:01:33 GMT
hello, i recently made a lvl 313 hybrid monk and i've been doing alot of grinding, especially in 3ies these past few days and i feel like im not killing these 3ies as quick as i thought i will be doing.
My stats are:
STR 250
INT 338
VIT 31
AGI 256
CRT 256
My equips are:
D.Claw ii+6 @275 clean
Sheep Shear ii+6 @295 clean
Frost Claw+6 @268 clean (just for freeze on geo)
D.mail LU+7 @16 clean
Ossi Model+4 @5 Dajarte
Breezy ns
S.Plaster up clean
SSF ns
Damage with no buff :
With D.claw, D.mail, S.plaster, and ssf, im dealing around 8k crit auto and around 20k sb
With the same setup but with breezy, im dealing around 8.9k crit auto and around 22k sb
With Shear, D.mail, Breezy and ssf im dealing around 11k crit auto and around 22k sb with dajarte proc around 9k and shear auto around 16k and 28k sb
With the same setup as above but with plaster, im dealing around 9k auto and around 19k sb with dajarte proc around 9k and shear auto around 16k and 25k sb
Is this good enough? or do i have to get a veleno for auto atk-ing?
Thanks
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Post by Aza on Dec 14, 2021 15:55:23 GMT
Hi.
Some important improvement that can be made:
-Refining equipment to +9
-Get xtal. Veleno is the best. Asobimo has nerfed Dajarte not too long ago. Wyn is the 2nd alternative but the dmg is so much lower than veleno.
-If somehow you can't get veleno rn, you can use equipment that has physical autoskill in it. Sheep shear is one of them. But it's better to have that effect on additional and/or special, because d.claw is monk bread and butter. For additional there are nasturtium, gewitter (not sure if the autoskill is good or bad), sulvan mask (good stat but meh autoskill). And for special showy bangle.
-If you're fortunate enough to have Veleno, put Veleno on D.mail, Sector plaster/Breezy and the special. Don't forget to get aconitum, because veleno do max damage when you're in poisoned state.
-IMHO, SSF is only good if you have at least 1 slot. Other than that, better use d.claw. Using 2 HP absorb equipment may help at early level but you will use only 1 after you're stronger. So either d.claw or ssf.
Ossi model has melee pierce, we don't like melee pierce since it hurt shellbreak a lot, more than it helps us on non-shellbreak attack. Dragon mail is the best.
I never compare breezy and sector because I use none of them but I think sector is better for dps. Breezy won slightly on damage but it doesn't help to proc autoskill. It has delay and resistance tho so it's up to your preference.
-VIT. I feel I die more often when I have 80 compared to when I still have 200-ish. How much you put is better to gauge it by yourself. Start low and add when you experience too many death at hard boss. Try not to add past 80 because many people have lower. Some people just don't put VIT at all and they feel fine because friend always heal. I don't enjoy that.
-AGI. I feel like this is monk signature. Although some player I know they don't put that much AGI, but instead they dump it on STR. His dmg is somehow better than mine, equipment supposed to be the same, but ofc I evade more and survive better. In party, people appreciate more damage tho. So if you're interested in more party play, max your STR. Also, STR benefits from wandering clothes, while AGI stuck on either Ira or D.mail.
I don't have many stefly to test things so that's all I can say. Hybrid is less boring because you can do auto or geo. Don't forget to cap your apos too, because unlike pure geo, hybrid has low base ATK due to not able to use Sirius Edge. Stat is our main source of raw ATK.
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Dec 14, 2021 16:31:36 GMT
Hi, My Monk is an Hybrid Monk too (Agi, Crt, Int, 250 Str and 100 Vit)
1. Crt is the best Damage booster for Monk. Gives as much Atk Str increases, plus Critical damage and Shell Break proc.
2. Late game 100 Vit should be enough.
My monk has 100 Vit, and rarely dies (He is level 421)
3. Even if we use Int, Monk has terrible Matk, and after the Magic Autoskills, Magic ones suck terribly.
4. Veleno Rosa has no cap damage, after it, Wyn can ditch better damage than Dajarte, but its soft cap is around 35k.
5. As an Auto Monk, you will want at least 40% Autoskill.
6. As a Monk NEVER use Melee Pierce+%, it decreases Shell Break damage.
7. As an hybrid Monk, you need at least 250 Str (For Ideaus), and 360 Int (For lowering Geo Brealer delay)
The rest, you need to prioritize Agility and Critical.
8. Never equip Autoskill Xtals on equipment with its own Autoskill.
Like equipping Wyn on Dragon Claw, Wyn will overwrite Dragon Claw's Drain.
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Post by mashkris10 on Dec 14, 2021 16:42:26 GMT
Your stat is still ok. I think str250 enough if u want get ideaus effect(if str250, atk&m.atk15%). Int360 is recomended for -3s delay geo.
If your weapon is normal claw, you must capped your agi. It can increase your dmg and evasion for more survivability.
But if u are focus on special claw, str is more important than other stat.
Autoattack... i think veleno is still the best auto. But if u no have spina, u can use equipment with autoskill like Nasturtium, sheep shear II(auto is 4x dmg), ice burn(high auto dmg but need time to farm).
Xtall for your weapon(d.claw), the best is sauro2, but if u want cheap u can buy ideaus. With your str&int250+, u can get atk&m.atk+15% like sauro2.
Armor, because you're using d.mail,recomended to use bodyguard cordal(+auto%) or ideaus(+atk&m.atk), dont use auto xtall on d.mail because it can cancel auto from d.mail(auto is nulify dmg and reflect it back to mob that hit u).
Add... breezy i can't say about this add because i dont have one. I think its ok especialy if it has slot.
Spec, for spec if u want cheap just using 2s spec from mq after kill joshuca(correct if i wrong), telon+veleno for dmg and autoskill or like before with 2 ideaus for 2x atk&m.atk+15%
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Dec 14, 2021 17:10:16 GMT
I will list here my Equipments.
I can do up to 1m+ total damage using my Auto Set on 3 Eyes, and up to 2m+ per Geo Breaker on Frost using my Geo Set.
●Autoattack:
Weapons:
Cremation II+9 ☆Evasion 4 ◇Veleno Rosa
Ice Burn+9 ☆Spell Burst 5 ◇Sauro II
Mirror Claw TST+9 ☆Vitality 5 ◇Veleno Rosa
Zandt Snake+9 ☆Evasion 5 ◇Veleno Rosa
Fanatia+9 ☆Evasion 4 ◇Veleno Rosa
Evil Dog Glove+9 ☆Fixed Melee 5 ◇Sauro II
Snead Claw III+9 ☆Evasion 5 ◇Veleno Rosa
Dragon Claw III+9 ☆Agility 5 ◇Sauro II
Lothos Thorn+9 ☆Evasion 4 ◇Sauro II
Armor:
Ira LU+9 ☆Evasion 5 ◇Veleno Rosa
Additional:
Sector Plaster LU+9 ☆Autoskill 4 ◇Veleno Rosa ◇Ideaus
Aulis Gale ☆Autoskill 5 (Accesory)
Special:
Showy Bangle ☆Autoskill 3 ◇Telon ◇Telon
*I have From 45% to 54% Autoskill rate with my set, counting AL Crysta.
■Geo Breaker Set:
Weapons:
Fanatia+9 ☆Agility 4 ◇Sauro II
Frost Claw@+9 ☆Rate Cut 3 ◇Thrift III (Freeze set)
Armor:
Ultimi LU+9 ☆Critical 5 ◇Ideaus
Ossi Model+9 ◇Thrift III (Freeze Set)
Additional:
Barbarotita LU+9 ☆Quick Cool 4 ◇Ideaus
Audlus+9 ☆Quick Cool 1 ◇Thrift III (Freeze
set)
Sulvan Mask+7@ ☆Quick Cool 5
Special
Specia's Blessed Stone ☆Agility 5 ◇Ideaus ◇Ideaus
Chief God Stone ☆Quick Cool 1 ◇Rossam (Freeze Set)
●Skill Delay/MP Cost/Item Delay Set
Purity Claw III+9 ☆Quick Cool 1 ◇Kagan
Red Bringer+9 ☆MP Cost Lv2 ◇Rossam
Taenia Beret+9 ☆Quick Cool 1 ◇Rossam Sulvan Mask@+7 ☆Quick Cool 5 (Accessory)
Chief God's Stone ☆Quick Cool 1 ◇Rossam
*I can Spam Asura Aura, Items, and all costs 1 MP, while I have good Defenses and Heal.
■AL Crysta:
(6 Yellow, 2 Green)
Jahoel
Uniom sam
G. Muscle
Sauro II
Sauro III
●Relic Glass
Horutes
Eisen
Griffith
Oswald
Melee +1% (x2)
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Post by _Liu_ n Krogerk on Dec 17, 2021 4:46:06 GMT
Hi. Some important improvement that can be made: -Refining equipment to +9 -Get xtal. Veleno is the best. Asobimo has nerfed Dajarte not too long ago. Wyn is the 2nd alternative but the dmg is so much lower than veleno. -If somehow you can't get veleno rn, you can use equipment that has physical autoskill in it. Sheep shear is one of them. But it's better to have that effect on additional and/or special, because d.claw is monk bread and butter. For additional there are nasturtium, gewitter (not sure if the autoskill is good or bad), sulvan mask (good stat but meh autoskill). And for special showy bangle. -If you're fortunate enough to have Veleno, put Veleno on D.mail, Sector plaster/Breezy and the special. Don't forget to get aconitum, because veleno do max damage when you're in poisoned state. -IMHO, SSF is only good if you have at least 1 slot. Other than that, better use d.claw. Using 2 HP absorb equipment may help at early level but you will use only 1 after you're stronger. So either d.claw or ssf. Ossi model has melee pierce, we don't like melee pierce since it hurt shellbreak a lot, more than it helps us on non-shellbreak attack. Dragon mail is the best. I never compare breezy and sector because I use none of them but I think sector is better for dps. Breezy won slightly on damage but it doesn't help to proc autoskill. It has delay and resistance tho so it's up to your preference. -VIT. I feel I die more often when I have 80 compared to when I still have 200-ish. How much you put is better to gauge it by yourself. Start low and add when you experience too many death at hard boss. Try not to add past 80 because many people have lower. Some people just don't put VIT at all and they feel fine because friend always heal. I don't enjoy that. -AGI. I feel like this is monk signature. Although some player I know they don't put that much AGI, but instead they dump it on STR. His dmg is somehow better than mine, equipment supposed to be the same, but ofc I evade more and survive better. In party, people appreciate more damage tho. So if you're interested in more party play, max your STR. Also, STR benefits from wandering clothes, while AGI stuck on either Ira or D.mail. I don't have many stefly to test things so that's all I can say. Hybrid is less boring because you can do auto or geo. Don't forget to cap your apos too, because unlike pure geo, hybrid has low base ATK due to not able to use Sirius Edge. Stat is our main source of raw ATK. got it, dmail it is. i'll probably swap either dclaw or ssf for more damage, use breezy only when spamming geo, and swap ossi for dmail, thanks! 5. As an Auto Monk, you will want at least 40% Autoskill. got any idea on achieving 40% auto with cheap xtals? i dont think i could get my hands on something like cordal or telon Autoattack... i think veleno is still the best auto. But if u no have spina, u can use equipment with autoskill like Nasturtium, sheep shear II(auto is 4x dmg), ice burn(high auto dmg but need time to farm). i'll probably get myself a nasturtium, seems cool. also is ice burn worth it? i'm using sheep shear ii right now and it does work for me most of the time. also one last thing, thanks for the tips but is my damage alright for my level lol |
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Post by mashkris10 on Dec 17, 2021 13:55:13 GMT
Monk dmg... autoattack monk is one of compleks dmg. Its because the calculation is complicated, especially when you got skill named martial art and combination. That two skill will increase your dmg based on stk. On the first hit without stk, your dmg on normal mode. But when reach full stk martial dan combi, your dmg can be double from normal.
Back to topic, your dmg is low. Yeah you know because your equipment not focus on dmg and still need xtall to maximize your dmg.
With your curent stat, u can stop fill str(to get ideaus effect) if using normal claw and then focus with agi-crt. Agi will increase +2 atk. Crt will increase your critical(dmg & rate), but if you're using claw crt can +1 atk status because monk passive. In other word, crt not only increasing your crt damage but it will increase base dmg which also affect final dmg.
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Post by Rocketpower on Dec 18, 2021 8:45:30 GMT
hello, i recently made a lvl 313 hybrid monk and i've been doing alot of grinding, especially in 3ies these past few days and i feel like im not killing these 3ies as quick as i thought i will be doing. My stats are: STR 250 INT 338 VIT 31 AGI 256 CRT 256 My equips are: D.Claw ii+6 @275 clean Sheep Shear ii+6 @295 clean Frost Claw+6 @268 clean (just for freeze on geo) D.mail LU+7 @16 clean Ossi Model+4 @5 Dajarte Breezy ns S.Plaster up clean SSF ns Damage with no buff : With D.claw, D.mail, S.plaster, and ssf, im dealing around 8k crit auto and around 20k sb With the same setup but with breezy, im dealing around 8.9k crit auto and around 22k sb With Shear, D.mail, Breezy and ssf im dealing around 11k crit auto and around 22k sb with dajarte proc around 9k and shear auto around 16k and 28k sb With the same setup as above but with plaster, im dealing around 9k auto and around 19k sb with dajarte proc around 9k and shear auto around 16k and 25k sb Is this good enough? or do i have to get a veleno for auto atk-ing? Thanks I'm not pro monk but never think ur DMG is low if ur under lvl 350 and ur stats aren't 380+ and no +9 weapon |
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Post by Done~with~forums on Dec 18, 2021 21:38:13 GMT
hello, i recently made a lvl 313 hybrid monk and i've been doing alot of grinding, especially in 3ies these past few days and i feel like im not killing these 3ies as quick as i thought i will be doing. My stats are: STR 250 INT 338 VIT 31 AGI 256 CRT 256 My equips are: D.Claw ii+6 @275 clean Sheep Shear ii+6 @295 clean Frost Claw+6 @268 clean (just for freeze on geo) D.mail LU+7 @16 clean Ossi Model+4 @5 Dajarte Breezy ns S.Plaster up clean SSF ns Damage with no buff : With D.claw, D.mail, S.plaster, and ssf, im dealing around 8k crit auto and around 20k sb With the same setup but with breezy, im dealing around 8.9k crit auto and around 22k sb With Shear, D.mail, Breezy and ssf im dealing around 11k crit auto and around 22k sb with dajarte proc around 9k and shear auto around 16k and 28k sb With the same setup as above but with plaster, im dealing around 9k auto and around 19k sb with dajarte proc around 9k and shear auto around 16k and 25k sb Is this good enough? or do i have to get a veleno for auto atk-ing? Thanks I'm not pro monk but never think ur DMG is low if ur under lvl 350 and ur stats aren't 380+ and no +9 weapon this is some of the best advice i have seen i would say main stats 360+ like agi and crt |
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