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Post by AliceNoble on Apr 21, 2021 23:01:51 GMT
Hello, I have read several threads about pally equipment for Guardian and Oath sets, but some are outdated and some aren't really complete.
I am currently helping a pally friend of mine, building him 3 sets: Guardian, Tank, and Oath. He is lvl 200ish. His stats are MAX STR, VIT, and rest DEX. These are the equipment sets I got so far:
Guardian (Overall main set that will be used daily)
Crystal Hammer (Sauro2/Sauro2) Saultus (MaxHP+20%) Duel Shield (MaxHP+20%) Myrica (Douin)
Tank (Used for boss fights and PT)
Genius (Iniliba) Licht (Iniliba) Cuirass (Iniliba) *Don't know what to use for Spec.*
For the Oath set I am still not sure, as I don't really understand how it works, but I assume it does not need a ton of sd- gear and needs to have ATK stats.
Nio/Fudo (Sauro2) BOO (Telon ?) Monty (Telon ?) SBS (2x Telon ?)
Obviously all the equipment listed will be last up and +9 if possible.
Any corrections or suggestions will be greatly welcomed, as this is still work in progress. Thank you.
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Post by senoragi on Apr 21, 2021 23:17:00 GMT
Hello, I have read several threads about pally equipment for Guardian and Oath sets, but some are outdated and some aren't really complete. I am currently helping a pally friend of mine, building him 3 sets: Guardian, Tank, and Oath. He is lvl 200ish. His stats are MAX STR, VIT, and rest DEX. These are the equipment sets I got so far: Guardian (Overall main set that will be used daily) Crystal Hammer (Sauro2/Sauro2) Saultus (MaxHP+20%) Duel Shield (MaxHP+20%) Myrica (Douin) Tank (Used for boss fights and PT) Genius (Iniliba) Licht (Iniliba) Cuirass (Iniliba) *Don't know what to use for Spec.* For the Oath set I am still not sure, as I don't really understand how it works, but I assume it does not need a ton of sd- gear and needs to have ATK stats. Nio/Fudo (Sauro2) BOO (Telon ?) Monty (Telon ?) SBS (2x Telon ?) Obviously all the equipment listed will be last up and +9 if possible. Any corrections or suggestions will be greatly welcomed, as this is still work in progress. Thank you. holy thrust set: crystal hammer 2s or genius 2s, chain mail 2s or licht or vanputt, add u can use light bulb or gloot, spec always myrica. xtal: full flash of day. al: flash of day, enina, biflog, resist or hp. relic: full light magic or hp or resist :v
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Post by blackghost on Apr 22, 2021 18:26:15 GMT
Hello, I have read several threads about pally equipment for Guardian and Oath sets, but some are outdated and some aren't really complete. I am currently helping a pally friend of mine, building him 3 sets: Guardian, Tank, and Oath. He is lvl 200ish. His stats are MAX STR, VIT, and rest DEX. These are the equipment sets I got so far: Guardian (Overall main set that will be used daily) Crystal Hammer (Sauro2/Sauro2) Saultus (MaxHP+20%) Duel Shield (MaxHP+20%) Myrica (Douin) Tank (Used for boss fights and PT) Genius (Iniliba) Licht (Iniliba) Cuirass (Iniliba) *Don't know what to use for Spec.* For the Oath set I am still not sure, as I don't really understand how it works, but I assume it does not need a ton of sd- gear and needs to have ATK stats. Nio/Fudo (Sauro2) BOO (Telon ?) Monty (Telon ?) SBS (2x Telon ?) Obviously all the equipment listed will be last up and +9 if possible. Any corrections or suggestions will be greatly welcomed, as this is still work in progress. Thank you. try brave shield (last up) instead of duel shield. Oath is dependent on how much HP you have currently in contrast with total max HP. Try an HP set to go with it.
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Post by blackghost on Apr 22, 2021 18:33:00 GMT
Also while you have sets for HP and res, you don't have for rate cut. I suggest a Zweig shield (last up) and don't use myrica wristlet as it has rate cut -20%. You can maybe use hero's sword sheath to replace it? You're gonna need a revive when K.Oes equip like flash of day al. You can also make a holy thrust set which for that you need HP, atk and light magic+%. Have all the equips be an HP set and all the Al crysta be light magic+% as well as the relics.
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Post by AliceNoble on Apr 22, 2021 18:58:19 GMT
Also while you have sets for HP and res, you don't have for rate cut. I suggest a Zweig shield (last up) and don't use myrica wristlet as it has rate cut -20%. You can maybe use hero's sword sheath to replace it? You're gonna need a revive when K.Oes equip like flash of day al. You can also make a holy thrust set which for that you need HP, atk and light magic+%. Have all the equips be an HP set and all the Al crysta be light magic+% as well as the relics. The problem I see with Holy Thrust skill, is that it drains MP so fast, it's not worth using unless you have a HW in PT, which we don't. That's why I didn't make a set for that skill.
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Post by senoragi on Apr 22, 2021 19:24:48 GMT
Also while you have sets for HP and res, you don't have for rate cut. I suggest a Zweig shield (last up) and don't use myrica wristlet as it has rate cut -20%. You can maybe use hero's sword sheath to replace it? You're gonna need a revive when K.Oes equip like flash of day al. You can also make a holy thrust set which for that you need HP, atk and light magic+%. Have all the equips be an HP set and all the Al crysta be light magic+% as well as the relics. The problem I see with Holy Thrust skill, is that it drains MP so fast, it's not worth using unless you have a HW in PT, which we don't. That's why I didn't make a set for that skill. try keep your max mp about 2860 and 4.000, spam thick remagic M. your damage late game is like 1.5m every 2sec.
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Post by AliceNoble on Apr 22, 2021 20:05:06 GMT
Hello, I have read several threads about pally equipment for Guardian and Oath sets, but some are outdated and some aren't really complete. I am currently helping a pally friend of mine, building him 3 sets: Guardian, Tank, and Oath. He is lvl 200ish. His stats are MAX STR, VIT, and rest DEX. These are the equipment sets I got so far: Guardian (Overall main set that will be used daily) Crystal Hammer (Sauro2/Sauro2) Saultus (MaxHP+20%) Duel Shield (MaxHP+20%) Myrica (Douin) Tank (Used for boss fights and PT) Genius (Iniliba) Licht (Iniliba) Cuirass (Iniliba) *Don't know what to use for Spec.* For the Oath set I am still not sure, as I don't really understand how it works, but I assume it does not need a ton of sd- gear and needs to have ATK stats. Nio/Fudo (Sauro2) BOO (Telon ?) Monty (Telon ?) SBS (2x Telon ?) Obviously all the equipment listed will be last up and +9 if possible. Any corrections or suggestions will be greatly welcomed, as this is still work in progress. Thank you. try brave shield (last up) instead of duel shield. Oath is dependent on how much HP you have currently in contrast with total max HP. Try an HP set to go with it. Yeah, the Hate Rise on Brave Shield is also nice. My bishop being the main DPS in the PT sometimes makes my friend pally struggle to keep hate on his side.
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Post by blackghost on Apr 22, 2021 21:25:16 GMT
try brave shield (last up) instead of duel shield. Oath is dependent on how much HP you have currently in contrast with total max HP. Try an HP set to go with it. Yeah, the Hate Rise on Brave Shield is also nice. My bishop being the main DPS in the PT sometimes makes my friend pally struggle to keep hate on his side. a combination of brave shield, holy mail and crysta hammer have a rather large hate rise boost as well as decent magic tanking capabilities. At the very least holy mail tanks magic better than licht (last up)
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Post by blackghost on Apr 22, 2021 21:43:13 GMT
Also while you have sets for HP and res, you don't have for rate cut. I suggest a Zweig shield (last up) and don't use myrica wristlet as it has rate cut -20%. You can maybe use hero's sword sheath to replace it? You're gonna need a revive when K.Oes equip like flash of day al. You can also make a holy thrust set which for that you need HP, atk and light magic+%. Have all the equips be an HP set and all the Al crysta be light magic+% as well as the relics. The problem I see with Holy Thrust skill, is that it drains MP so fast, it's not worth using unless you have a HW in PT, which we don't. That's why I didn't make a set for that skill. oh yeah I forgot VIT/STR/DEX paladins have an mp problem. I'm a VIT/DEX/INT paladin so even if I use holy thrust twice or once I still have a huge chunk of MP to spam Guardian. For magic paladins holy thrust is bread and butter for DMG. Can use it twice to get 1m dmg total on average. The heal recovery boost adds a small amount of raw attack too. It's DMG depends on HP, atk and light mgc+% so a VIT/STR/DEX paladin like you can probably make more use out of it than the average mgc paladin. Also the best class to supply you with mp is enchanter. A HW would be too busy chanting long ass spells to give you a mp heal. An enchanter can just mp heal you then return to dmging the boss. Personally I always thought enchanters and paladins are a high tier combo for various reasons.
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Post by AliceNoble on Apr 22, 2021 23:15:09 GMT
The problem I see with Holy Thrust skill, is that it drains MP so fast, it's not worth using unless you have a HW in PT, which we don't. That's why I didn't make a set for that skill. oh yeah I forgot VIT/STR/DEX paladins have an mp problem. I'm a VIT/DEX/INT paladin so even if I use holy thrust twice or once I still have a huge chunk of MP to spam Guardian. For magic paladins holy thrust is bread and butter for DMG. Can use it twice to get 1m dmg total on average. The heal recovery boost adds a small amount of raw attack too. It's DMG depends on HP, atk and light mgc+% so a VIT/STR/DEX paladin like you can probably make more use out of it than the average mgc paladin. Also the best class to supply you with mp is enchanter. A HW would be too busy chanting long ass spells to give you a mp heal. An enchanter can just mp heal you then return to dmging the boss. Personally I always thought enchanters and paladins are a high tier combo for various reasons. Like Senoragi mentioned, I will probably get him some Thick Remagics and put it out auto, maybe that will work. His guardian I can heal easily, but Holy Thrust really does more damage. Thank you.
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Post by senoragi on Apr 23, 2021 0:39:44 GMT
The problem I see with Holy Thrust skill, is that it drains MP so fast, it's not worth using unless you have a HW in PT, which we don't. That's why I didn't make a set for that skill. oh yeah I forgot VIT/STR/DEX paladins have an mp problem. I'm a VIT/DEX/INT paladin so even if I use holy thrust twice or once I still have a huge chunk of MP to spam Guardian. For magic paladins holy thrust is bread and butter for DMG. Can use it twice to get 1m dmg total on average. The heal recovery boost adds a small amount of raw attack too. It's DMG depends on HP, atk and light mgc+% so a VIT/STR/DEX paladin like you can probably make more use out of it than the average mgc paladin. Also the best class to supply you with mp is enchanter. A HW would be too busy chanting long ass spells to give you a mp heal. An enchanter can just mp heal you then return to dmging the boss. Personally I always thought enchanters and paladins are a high tier combo for various reasons. yes, and the MAXHP dmg part is based on level. example: a paladin lv 288 can convert about 190k of max hp as base damage, and a paladin lv 415 can convert 350k maxhp, use full light magic % (easy reach 130 - 180% light magic) and u will dealt 1.2 - 1.5m dmg. using my light magic set my paladin gain 17~20k dmg every 5lv :v this skill is so insane! best light magic in game, can even ignore barrier o.O just like guardian
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Post by senoragi on Apr 23, 2021 0:48:30 GMT
this ability always consumes 35% of your maxmp, so the more mana WORSE your situation is because the easier mana pot to get is thick remagic M (you can make 3,000 in 30 minutes using a job like HW or Servant, you need to learn the best possible route etc) with 3,000 thick remagic M you can (for example) kill an Agira Jarma 500x when you are a high level paladin. profit :v
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Post by blackghost on Apr 23, 2021 6:23:15 GMT
this ability always consumes 35% of your maxmp, so the more mana WORSE your situation is because the easier mana pot to get is thick remagic M (you can make 3,000 in 30 minutes using a job like HW or Servant, you need to learn the best possible route etc) with 3,000 thick remagic M you can (for example) kill an Agira Jarma 500x when you are a high level paladin. profit :v mana replenishers like thicc remagic work off % so no matter how much mana you have it gives you the same % every time. It uses more mp the more your mp pool grows but the larger your mp pool the more mp is left over after you use it. Which is prime for spamming guardian straight after using it. Too small an mp pool and you'll find yourself out of mp after two holy thrusts and spamming guardian for a little bit. I have a large mp pool of about 11k (switch up my equips and get 14k) and after I spam holy thrust twice I just get straight to guardian with the 3k mp I have left. That's if I spam it twice tho, I can still do it once and be left with 6k mp. That's a lot.
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Post by senoragi on Apr 23, 2021 18:31:00 GMT
this ability always consumes 35% of your maxmp, so the more mana WORSE your situation is because the easier mana pot to get is thick remagic M (you can make 3,000 in 30 minutes using a job like HW or Servant, you need to learn the best possible route etc) with 3,000 thick remagic M you can (for example) kill an Agira Jarma 500x when you are a high level paladin. profit :v mana replenishers like thicc remagic work off % so no matter how much mana you have it gives you the same % every time. It uses more mp the more your mp pool grows but the larger your mp pool the more mp is left over after you use it. Which is prime for spamming guardian straight after using it. Too small an mp pool and you'll find yourself out of mp after two holy thrusts and spamming guardian for a little bit. I have a large mp pool of about 11k (switch up my equips and get 14k) and after I spam holy thrust twice I just get straight to guardian with the 3k mp I have left. That's if I spam it twice tho, I can still do it once and be left with 6k mp. That's a lot. thick remagic M gives a base mana and a mana in%, this base is very important because it ends up healing more than Skill's 35% cost, so it is possible to spam when your mana is between 2858 and 4,200. if my memory serves me correctly, the base is 300 mana + 15% of your maximum mana, if your mana is 3,000 then the 300 base mana can be read as 10% mp rec, total 25% (10% + 15%) , the Holy Thrust Skill already gives you around 35% item recovery that applies to both base mp rec and% mp rec, just use Gloot re up and 1 pharmacy abi and you will recover much more than 35% by Thick Remagic: v this is the only challenge the skill has, once you master it you become an insane class. easy spam 1.2m+ just like a m.ninja
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Post by blackghost on Apr 23, 2021 19:21:26 GMT
mana replenishers like thicc remagic work off % so no matter how much mana you have it gives you the same % every time. It uses more mp the more your mp pool grows but the larger your mp pool the more mp is left over after you use it. Which is prime for spamming guardian straight after using it. Too small an mp pool and you'll find yourself out of mp after two holy thrusts and spamming guardian for a little bit. I have a large mp pool of about 11k (switch up my equips and get 14k) and after I spam holy thrust twice I just get straight to guardian with the 3k mp I have left. That's if I spam it twice tho, I can still do it once and be left with 6k mp. That's a lot. thick remagic M gives a base mana and a mana in%, this base is very important because it ends up healing more than Skill's 35% cost, so it is possible to spam when your mana is between 2858 and 4,200. if my memory serves me correctly, the base is 300 mana + 15% of your maximum mana, if your mana is 3,000 then the 300 base mana can be read as 10% mp rec, total 25% (10% + 15%) , the Holy Thrust Skill already gives you around 35% item recovery that applies to both base mp rec and% mp rec, just use Gloot re up and 1 pharmacy abi and you will recover much more than 35% by Thick Remagic: v this is the only challenge the skill has, once you master it you become an insane class. easy spam 1.2m+ just like a m.ninja in that case I can just get 20% item recovery then its an easy heal even if I exceed that mana limit. That's an easy get with a single medical III crysta. No need to replace a whole equip to do it. In fact I might try that out later.
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