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Post by Owe on Aug 31, 2021 20:16:18 GMT
I have played Assassin the most through out my whole Iruna play, and I don't think adding 256agi for 95% eva(15% more from no agi) will be good, instead of that we can put the 255 stat to either more hp or Int/STR and add some ressist gear like Monty (400dex? Take full use of it, it also got some ressist and skill delay xD). Hp+ressist, without lossing much damages. I wonder how that sin willl be like. it's just sad to see every sin I pt with had like 5k hp with so much negative Ressist ai. I mean dead sin is no DMG. actually yea i agree. On that day i spent 2 stefly books. And i prefer bs build, the glass canon. Evasion is real crap in iruna. I think the real answer is somewhere in between. The reality is that you’re never going to be able to 1 shot every thing so you have to make contingency plans if you plan to live. Hp by itself doesn’t do much by itself. You need high levels of res to make it effective. Eva is much the same way. Basic eva is just a stat exactly like hp. To make it better, you have to gear around it. P.S. an assassin shouldn’t ever go for 256 agi imo. The evasion buff gives you 48 agi and therefore 208 eva is all a blank assassin needs to cap evasion rate |
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Post by Rocketpower on Sept 1, 2021 9:54:10 GMT
actually yea i agree. On that day i spent 2 stefly books. And i prefer bs build, the glass canon. Evasion is real crap in iruna. I think the real answer is somewhere in between. The reality is that you’re never going to be able to 1 shot every thing so you have to make contingency plans if you plan to live. Hp by itself doesn’t do much by itself. You need high levels of res to make it effective. Eva is much the same way. Basic eva is just a stat exactly like hp. To make it better, you have to gear around it. P.S. an assassin shouldn’t ever go for 256 agi imo. The evasion buff gives you 48 agi and therefore 208 eva is all a blank assassin needs to cap evasion rate Ressist + DMG sin with decent amount of hp can be made but it'll be expensive and would need good amount of 6-7slot gear and 3union Sam.(force helm+boo already 23%). Imo evasion is utterly unreliable for me, sinces we can hardly evade magic damages now. |
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Post by Rocketpower on Sept 1, 2021 9:54:44 GMT
I think the real answer is somewhere in between. The reality is that you’re never going to be able to 1 shot every thing so you have to make contingency plans if you plan to live. Hp by itself doesn’t do much by itself. You need high levels of res to make it effective. Eva is much the same way. Basic eva is just a stat exactly like hp. To make it better, you have to gear around it. P.S. an assassin shouldn’t ever go for 256 agi imo. The evasion buff gives you 48 agi and therefore 208 eva is all a blank assassin needs to cap evasion rate Ressist + DMG sin with decent amount of hp can be made but it'll be expensive and would need good amount of 6-7slot gear and 3union Sam.(force helm last up+boo already 23%). Imo evasion is utterly unreliable for me, sinces we can hardly evade magic damages now. |
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Post by Owe on Sept 1, 2021 14:40:06 GMT
I think the real answer is somewhere in between. The reality is that you’re never going to be able to 1 shot every thing so you have to make contingency plans if you plan to live. Hp by itself doesn’t do much by itself. You need high levels of res to make it effective. Eva is much the same way. Basic eva is just a stat exactly like hp. To make it better, you have to gear around it. P.S. an assassin shouldn’t ever go for 256 agi imo. The evasion buff gives you 48 agi and therefore 208 eva is all a blank assassin needs to cap evasion rate Ressist + DMG sin with decent amount of hp can be made but it'll be expensive and would need good amount of 6-7slot gear and 3union Sam.(force helm+boo already 23%). Imo evasion is utterly unreliable for me, sinces we can hardly evade magic damages now. I argue that def is as utterly unreliable. You must use res to survive. Similar to eva. Abs and mag eva must be utilized. 4 green lines +100 gr and 2 eva abis gives you 15% abs eva already (and they aren’t intrusive on the build green lines bonus gives atk as well with yellow lines and abis are very easily interchangeable. You also have 3 other spots to choose what else you want). Don’t get me wrong. You will get hit. You need hp, you need res even with 95% abs/mag eva. I recommend people to go in the middle for the reasons we said. Like you said 25ish% res is easily available. 15%+ abs/mag eva is easily available. Neither are intrusive. Who do you think will be able to survive easier: the person who chooses either res or eva or the person who chooses both? |
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Post by Owe on Sept 1, 2021 15:06:36 GMT
Also the reason I recommend agi for eva builds regardless of weapon choice is this: Right now we have about 50% magic eva from illusion lv 3 irunaonline.boards.net/thread/31942/magic-evasion-nerf50/.95 (fixing it to make it 100%) = 52.63 52.63 x .8 = 42.10 You’re essentially gaining 8% magic eva just with your stats and as your magic eva rises from equips, the higher that 8% goes. Abs eva works similarly. This doesn’t even account for the amount of natural eva you’ll gain and the evasion rate you’ll gain from that. 1 important note is that I don’t think you NEED agi at cap. 200 agi is fine. 150 agi is fine. Go until you’re happy with your eva rate. But if you’re going to evade with any consistency, agi is necessary. |
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Post by Rocketpower on Nov 27, 2021 5:17:57 GMT
Also the reason I recommend agi for eva builds regardless of weapon choice is this: Right now we have about 50% magic eva from illusion lv 3 irunaonline.boards.net/thread/31942/magic-evasion-nerf50/.95 (fixing it to make it 100%) = 52.63 52.63 x .8 = 42.10 You’re essentially gaining 8% magic eva just with your stats and as your magic eva rises from equips, the higher that 8% goes. Abs eva works similarly. This doesn’t even account for the amount of natural eva you’ll gain and the evasion rate you’ll gain from that. 1 important note is that I don’t think you NEED agi at cap. 200 agi is fine. 150 agi is fine. Go until you’re happy with your eva rate. But if you’re going to evade with any consistency, agi is necessary. Regarding agi.. If I use shelk or evasion abi5 how much agi do u think I would need for sin for 95% eva? |
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Post by Owe on Nov 27, 2021 5:35:49 GMT
Shelk has +5 agi and agility buff gives +48 agi (+60 if you buff with Heidi)
For cap evasion potential you want 240ish-256 agi total. So take 256-53 (potentially 65).
If you don’t wanna cap it, enough agi for max aspd is another option to get to about 87-90ish% evasion potential
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Post by Rocketpower on Nov 27, 2021 6:17:33 GMT
Shelk has +5 agi and agility buff gives +48 agi (+60 if you buff with Heidi) For cap evasion potential you want 240ish-256 agi total. So take 256-53 (potentially 65). If you don’t wanna cap it, enough agi for max aspd is another option to get to about 87-90ish% evasion potential So 200agi just to be sav. Thanks man! |
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Post by eyongthunder on Oct 20, 2023 22:53:33 GMT
Leaving my print here...
I think I go for poison-survival build🤔 My choice of weapon is spec throw; Raiju Jiulong200 and Cutting Hat II
Forget Elemental sets, me going poison
Plan stats would be:
AGI 256 for Evasion
CRT 400-max for cutting hat II & horned helmet
INT 400-max obviously
Vit 200-max for Raiju Jiulong 200
Green lines 100 for more eva
Dex 140-220 enough bs delays and poison(based on ryuji's stat)
AI focused Magic Evasion
My Sin,fifth character on my account was around 270 as of now. Apos unlocked, but never invested points yet
My pre apos stats:
INT=250 VIT=50 AGI=256 CRT=256
Method of attack current level:
Normal Attack/ provoke to lure
Sicarius BS-Venom Attack-BS(if not poisoned, then continue VA)
If poisoned:
BS-Venom Fist-BS, after the 4th VF proceed spamming BS
Or
VF x 4times - spam BS
If BS can't go rear,but mob was poisoned: spam VF
Shadow walk buff always renew, doesn't need deathblow buff.
Never died on both MQ/ skill aquisition Bosses; unlike my summoner, high wizard, and Beast knight during the process of unlocking apos/aquiring new skills
I still need some advice for this
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