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Should i get non-evasion gear Jan 28, 2021 6:29:34 GMT via mobile

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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2021 6:29:34 GMT

Hi! (totally not me posting the last 4 threads under the assassin thread)
So currently I'm doing a full magic and absolute evasion gear. But I find that it's really hard to solo because I still get hit way way too much. And more than half the time, I die in 1 hit

I still havent gotten my endgame gear so theres still some room for improvement (but not much. I already have my weapon and spec. Plus full green lines)
So do you guys think that at higher levels I'll have a better chance of surviving so I should just stick with what I'm doing? Or should i add some vit or maybe get eq for def/resist/hp? If possible, i don't wanna add vit since I'm focusing on adding stats for max dmg. Also, if i should get eq, I'd prefer if it was only one piece of equiment and not the whole set. I'd still like to have my evasion gear. But if necessary, I'll have to change
Thanks!

Edit: found some time before class to do this so I'll edit now XD. So my current gear:
Diamante (eva/sd set) + Freedos (for higher max hp because in earlier levels, I was getting 1-hitted too much)
Calamity (dmg)
PM Grenade (for aoe when grinding/farming)
Baselard (deathblow spam when mp gets wiped by some bosses)

Mirror mail IAG, planning to get Ultimi lu

Now using Snowflower Ribbons + Vampire Blow (not planning to keep this xtal). Currently working on Wrath Rebate lu

Assassin Ring (dmg + eva)
Acrobat Ring (eva but -40% resist ;( so i dont use this much)

So total I have +50% (with assassin ring)/+70% (acrobat ring) magic and absolute evasion from gear. I haven't gotten any xtals since I'm pretty broke right now but I'm planning to get dmg xtals though so it won't really affect evasion. I also have full green lines (already mentioned but jic it got lost in my jumble of words)
However, the armour and add im planning to get would mean less magic evasion so idk if it will help my case much

Last Edit: Jan 29, 2021 0:18:48 GMT by Deleted

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Should i get non-evasion gear Jan 28, 2021 19:33:42 GMT via mobile

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Post by Owe on Jan 28, 2021 19:33:42 GMT

Hey Lucienace! Just a heads up, if you’re asking about your gear, it usually helps to post what you’re working with so then people can see where improvements can be made

So the thing about evasion... trust me I understand. With high enough evasion, you can theoretically beat any enemy in game by getting super lucky and then never touching you. With high enough evasion you’re practically immortal and unstoppable.

However in real life, you’ll never get that lucky. Even if you cap evasion to the max, there’s a chance you can get hit.

It’s not just about maximizing your luck. You must also minimize your unluckiness.

This may seem backwards, but yes indeed improving resist/HP improves your ability to evade. If the enemy can kill you in one hit, even if it takes 9 misses but the 10th attack hits, you’re might as well have gotten hit the first time. However if the enemy hits you once and leaves you with 1 HP, you have the chance to dodge another 9 attacks. And usually you can heal up to max health in that time; making a kind of perpetual loop where getting unlucky doesn’t matter.

That’s why assassins don’t need as much resistances/hp, but still need some.

On the flip side of the coin, your increasing dps will help you evade more effectively.

Imagine that in the time it takes for you to kill an enemy, they throw 20 attacks at you, and you evade 10 at a 50% evasion rate.
By increasing your dps and reducing the number of attacks they can throw at you to 10, you’ve done 2 things.
#1 if you keep your evasion rate the same, you’ve halved dmg you’ll receive
And #2 you’ve made your new unlucky situation your old lucky situation. At max you can only get hit 10 times vs 20

IMO, keep your evasion gear. But work to make your luck luckier by improving other fundamentals

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Should i get non-evasion gear Jan 28, 2021 23:14:33 GMT

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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2021 23:14:33 GMT

Jan 28, 2021 19:33:42 GMT Owe said:

Hey Lucienace! Just a heads up, if you’re asking about your gear, it usually helps to post what you’re working with so then people can see where improvements can be made

So the thing about evasion... trust me I understand. With high enough evasion, you can theoretically beat any enemy in game by getting super lucky and then never touching you. With high enough evasion you’re practically immortal and unstoppable.

However in real life, you’ll never get that lucky. Even if you cap evasion to the max, there’s a chance you can get hit.

It’s not just about maximizing your luck. You must also minimize your unluckiness.

This may seem backwards, but yes indeed improving resist/HP improves your ability to evade. If the enemy can kill you in one hit, even if it takes 9 misses but the 10th attack hits, you’re might as well have gotten hit the first time. However if the enemy hits you once and leaves you with 1 HP, you have the chance to dodge another 9 attacks. And usually you can heal up to max health in that time; making a kind of perpetual loop where getting unlucky doesn’t matter.

That’s why assassins don’t need as much resistances/hp, but still need some.

On the flip side of the coin, your increasing dps will help you evade more effectively.

Imagine that in the time it takes for you to kill an enemy, they throw 20 attacks at you, and you evade 10 at a 50% evasion rate.
By increasing your dps and reducing the number of attacks they can throw at you to 10, you’ve done 2 things.
#1 if you keep your evasion rate the same, you’ve halved dmg you’ll receive
And #2 you’ve made your new unlucky situation your old lucky situation. At max you can only get hit 10 times vs 20

IMO, keep your evasion gear. But work to make your luck luckier by improving other fundamentals

Thank you so much! I'll keep that in mind. And later if I'm not too busy, I'll update my first post with my gear (im probably gonna be busy the whole day though so I'll see if i can make time).
And basically everything that you told me makes me happy haha - use my dps as survival. Thanks!