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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2021 13:26:43 GMT
Hello! So I have some of these weapons and I'm not sure which one to use for grinding most general mobs for example megaroche or high ents. Assuming no xtals attached and none of the other equips affects the damage of bs, which of these would yield the strongest bs? Also assuming all are +9, at max attack, and fully upgraded.
-Kagekiri
-Calamity
-Prescience III
-Wicktrace III
Btw, i am aware that elemental weapons would obviously be the best but I'm not too keen on constantly getting a full bag. Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2021 11:03:56 GMT
Hello! So I have some of these weapons and I'm not sure which one to use for grinding most general mobs for example megaroche or high ents. Assuming no xtals attached and none of the other equips affects the damage of bs, which of these would yield the strongest bs? Also assuming all are +9, at max attack, and fully upgraded. -Kagekiri -Calamity -Prescience III -Wicktrace III Btw, i am aware that elemental weapons would obviously be the best but I'm not too keen on constantly getting a full bag. Thanks! I have another question. Since all the votes so far are calamity, is the -10second KO duration worth it since it affects sicarius? What would be the next best weapon if it isn't worth it? But for now I'll stick to using calamity for grinding since I still have a long way to go to get that skill. Thanks for the votes so far  |
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Jan 17, 2021 16:55:04 GMT
Calamity's negative can be practically negated by equipping other weapon for the normal duration in the first hit, then switch to Calamity and then do your mess.
I suppose, cause I've never tested it...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2021 17:21:28 GMT
Calamity's negative can be practically negated by equipping other weapon for the normal duration in the first hit, then switch to Calamity and then do your mess. I suppose, cause I've never tested it... Hm yeah i was considering that too. I actually posted a question about this on a separate thread but havent gotten any replies. Btw if anyone knows, if I use a different weapon and a stun is currently in place, will switching to calamity remove the stun that is already there? |
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Post by godofafro on Jan 18, 2021 1:28:56 GMT
is the -10second KO duration worth it since it affects sicarius? This doesn't matter since you're levelling on non-bosses. Once you're 300-320 you can one shot yardes; when you're 360 you can begin soloing pta yardes |
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Post by Famine on Jan 18, 2021 1:59:56 GMT
is the -10second KO duration worth it since it affects sicarius? This doesn't matter since you're levelling on non-bosses. Once you're 300-320 you can one shot yardes; when you're 360 you can begin soloing pta yardes To add to this, if you can find a bishop friend, you can constantly let them clone Yarde, only kill clones and it will still be chain spawn. As long as the mob you kill was targeted by the aoe part of nemesis, and is still not the main target from bishop nemesis, you can kill the mob, and it will still clone. Edit: Works at all high hp mobs Edit 2: Any aoe class works as other class, Pally would probably do it best. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2021 4:48:23 GMT
is the -10second KO duration worth it since it affects sicarius? This doesn't matter since you're levelling on non-bosses. Once you're 300-320 you can one shot yardes; when you're 360 you can begin soloing pta yardes Oh right I didnt realise that. I read that sicarius stun works better on bosses and since I'll be grinding on mobs, it won't matter so much. So basically I'll stick to calamity as my grinding weap Thanks!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2021 4:50:08 GMT
This doesn't matter since you're levelling on non-bosses. Once you're 300-320 you can one shot yardes; when you're 360 you can begin soloing pta yardes To add to this, if you can find a bishop friend, you can constantly let them clone Yarde, only kill clones and it will still be chain spawn. As long as the mob you kill was targeted by the aoe part of nemesis, and is still not the main target from bishop nemesis, you can kill the mob, and it will still clone. Edit: Works at all high hp mobs Edit 2: Any aoe class works as other class, Pally would probably do it best. I always pt with my sis who's a necro. Still a long way to go to 300+ though sigh... But thanks! |
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Post by raintde on Feb 9, 2021 15:31:37 GMT
While we still in this topic, i would like to know is don gridare/it's up a good weapon?
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Post by °Malice° on Feb 9, 2021 16:02:15 GMT
While we still in this topic, i would like to know is don gridare/it's up a good weapon? it has mp cost, equip def and its nice. But i prefer elemental throws. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 17:21:18 GMT
Now that Don Greed is out (i only realised it was released recently), could someone test it out? Maybe comparing it to Calamity?
I would test but i dont have any str added yet so it wont benefit me so much
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2021 9:27:59 GMT
Now that Don Greed is out (i only realised it was released recently), could someone test it out? Maybe comparing it to Calamity? I would test but i dont have any str added yet so it wont benefit me so much So I ended up calculating. So assuming int, str and crt are all 400: Base atk = (400+400)*2 = 1600 2 crt dmg from 400 crt + 1.5 base crt dmg = 3.5 crt dmg Calamity (25% atk + 25% crt) : 1600*(3.5 + 0.25)+(1600*(1 + 0.25)*3.5) = 13000 Don Greed (36% atk): 1600*(1 + 0.36)*3.5 = 7616 But the difference seems too big though?? Because I was thinking 11% atk would be more on par with 25% crt but this doesn't support this (probably false) belief. I hope someone can correct me if I made any mistakes :') |
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Post by °Malice° on May 5, 2021 11:07:10 GMT
Now that Don Greed is out (i only realised it was released recently), could someone test it out? Maybe comparing it to Calamity? I would test but i dont have any str added yet so it wont benefit me so much So I ended up calculating. So assuming int, str and crt are all 400: Base atk = (400+400)*2 = 1600 2 crt dmg from 400 crt + 1.5 base crt dmg = 3.5 crt dmg Calamity (25% atk + 25% crt) : 1600*(3.5 + 0.25)+(1600*(1 + 0.25)*3.5) = 13000 Don Greed (36% atk): 1600*(1 + 0.36)*3.5 = 7616 But the difference seems too big though?? Because I was thinking 11% atk would be more on par with 25% crt but this doesn't support this (probably false) belief. I hope someone can correct me if I made any mistakes :') ur calculation with calamity is wrong. Why there is two raw atk? (1600) while don greed onlya have one? |
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Post by °Malice° on May 5, 2021 11:08:45 GMT
Clamity should be
1600 * (1+(25%)) * (3.5+(25%))
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Post by °Malice° on May 5, 2021 11:15:36 GMT
Clamity should be 1600 * (1+(25%)) * (3.5+(25%)) Atk on window stat already affected by atk% So it should be Atk * (1+(melee%)) * (1+(melee to element%)) * (1+(melee to boss)) * (1.5+(c.dmg%)+(crt/200)) After done, the value is added with fixed melee. ATK from stat window may be increased with melee pierce% or decreased by target def/level difference but it wont be shown. After c.dmg, if u have s.break% in equips, the calculated c.dmg is multiply with (1+(target def/500) max s.break multiplier is 4. Then fixed melee is added. If the skill is affected by s.burst, the calculated c.dmg+sbreak w/o fixed melee will be multiply by (1+(50%)) then added with fixed melee. |
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