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Post by nubwinter on Jan 12, 2021 11:30:20 GMT
Hi im new to sniper! I have a few question i hope you can help me with it! Thanks! Fairywind with overclock reduces auto by 90-95%? making other autoskill proc by atk like wyn and veleno unusable. Does it apply also in disable set? Fairy wind reduces cf dmg? Is it really true? If true what do you buff when doing cf? Hidden arrow proc rate determine by crt rate not autoskill because double atk proc by crt rate?
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Post by sstraycat on Jan 12, 2021 12:19:25 GMT
Hope I'm right with these, kinda rusty on the basics.... Q: Fairywind with overclock reduces auto by 90-95%? making other autoskill proc by atk like wyn and veleno unusable. Does it apply also in disable set?
A: Forgot about wyn and veleno but I'm sure disable set still works with FW and OC ( proof here) I also recall that statement as "FW with OC reduces auto to 90-95%". "To" not "By". Meaning instead of leaving you with 5-10% auto, it leaves your auto to 90 to 95% of the previous value. Hope I recalled that correctly. To counter this effect of fairywind, just get gears and als with high total auto%. Unfortunately, this means having full 2s gears can't be avoided if you're after the best auto% total. Why need a high auto%? See Answer to Q#3. Side note: I tried to see what exact value is that 90-95% in a new experiment. Turns out the truth is far from this. Please see here. Q: Fairy wind reduces cf dmg? Is it really true? If true what do you buff when doing cf?
A: False. FW decreases Autoskill. Q: Hidden arrow proc rate determine by crt rate not autoskill because double atk proc by crt rate?A: Hidden Arrow always procs. Whether normal attack crits or not, whether double attack procs or not, Hidden Arrow always procs. The difference is that it gives the best damage whenever you get crits with double attack. Additional note: If you get a -100% auto debuff or gear effect, Hidden Arrow still procs but double attack chance becomes 0. Tried it with a Slebinian Badge.
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Post by Aza on Jan 25, 2021 15:01:47 GMT
I'm now sure that fairywind DA can proc 100% with 52% autoskill from equipment + 6 purple line and 50 rlb.
Another notes: -Concentration is only reduced when recoil occurs.
-Changed halios to cordal (50% autoskill from eq) + 100 rlb-->DA doesn't proc 100%.
-Remove ☆Autoskill Lv1 from Bow (51% autoskill from eq) + 50 rlb=DA doesn't proc 100%.
-52% autoskill from eq + any rlb below 50=DA doesn't proc 100%
-I get ASPD from rlb only after I put 20, 50 and 100. Probably also at 80 but not sure I used stefly to make my rlb to 100 right away.
-Fairywind sniper needs more than 367 ASPD. Max aspd for us is somewhere between 373 to 396. I wish I knew this earlier.
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Post by Aza on Feb 12, 2021 5:42:22 GMT
Idk if anyone does ever read this but I got updates. I'm sorry I can't make a vid or some fancy table like other guy.
So it turns out the amount of autoskill needed get lowered as I increase my lvl. Idk if it's directly because of the lvl or the stat I raise. Currently at lvl 415 with 450 str dex crt, 93 agi and 125 vit, 50 rlb, I only need 49% autoskill to proc 100% DA.
I don't rmb the stat and lvl when I test that 52% as I don't expect this to happen x)
Edit: stupid me I didn't browse ameblo before making decision x.x they already have the formula for DA. Base rate is 10% and increased by 1% per 9 CRT. They don't state any cap on CRT whatsoever.
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Post by sstraycat on Feb 24, 2021 15:39:03 GMT
.... they already have the formula for DA. Base rate is 10% and increased by 1% per 9 CRT. They don't state any cap on CRT whatsoever. This is actually good news. If there's no more cap to get a DA by CRT then the % I gave before becomes lower. 450/9 = 50. You get 50, not a plateau 40. Is that added to the 10% base? Even if not you really just need 50% more auto to complete the 100% DA. Wonder since when did this happen? No info on this before, so I might need to continue that double attack experiment thread... Going back to one of OP's original question about veleno, FW isn't responsible for veleno not proc'ng. It's the double attack passive. If double attack procs, veleno doesn't so you need to turn off double attack to give chance for the veleno to proc (take note that if you do use FW at this time, it lowers your autoskill).
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Post by Aza on Feb 24, 2021 21:17:00 GMT
This is actually good news. If there's no more cap to get a DA by CRT then the % I gave before becomes lower. 450/9 = 50. You get 50, not a plateau 40. Is that added to the 10% base? Even if not you really just need 50% more auto to complete the 100% DA. Wonder since when did this happen? No info on this before, so I might need to continue that double attack experiment thread... Going back to one of OP's original question about veleno, FW isn't responsible for veleno not proc'ng. It's the double attack passive. If double attack procs, veleno doesn't so you need to turn off double attack to give chance for the veleno to proc (take note that if you do use FW at this time, it lowers your autoskill). ameblo.jp/yugamineena810-1919/entry-12444367622.htmlHe/she doesn't state who did the test/how the test is done but it's pretty close to what I found..well not 100% accurate tho in my case. Because I did try 48% auto and I saw recoil..that auto% doesn't include 50 rlb and 6 purple line, I'm not sure how much auto% purple line gives. So the calculation, according to that ameblo guy, is like this, Base is 10% 450 CRT is 50% I have auto% 49% Suppose 6 purple and rlb gives me 4% That would be 0.9(10 + 50 + 49 + 4) = 101.7 But if I input 48% auto, it's still above 100%, which in my case has to be lower than 100%..so something is wrong. That ameblo guy have 459 CRT but states that he only got 49% proc rate from CRT..maybe that's the cap? XD If I input 49 instead of 50, 48% autoskill give me 99.9% da proc rate.
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