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Post by whatisanameeven? on Jan 1, 2021 19:00:15 GMT
hi, it's my first time using this so i hope this is the correct place for this :/ so i'm not sure if i should use struggler because after hearing from others, i know struggler is a very good and popular armour for hw and necro (the 2 i'm considering, leaning more towards necro) but many use vit build. currently, i plan to go the glass build route since i'm usually in a pt, so i might add about 100 vit once i've maxed int and dex then use the rest for other stats. since matk up for struggler is based on vit, is it worth it to get a struggler since i won't be getting the full benefits of the matk? or is it better to go for another armour with high matk? the reason why i'm still considering struggler is because the high magic pierce and spellburst.  |
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Post by °Malice° on Jan 1, 2021 20:06:31 GMT
Strugg works with sword, cane and throw. 117 vit should be enuf to get 700 bonus matk from strugg.
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Post by whatisanameeven? on Jan 2, 2021 3:02:23 GMT
Strugg works with sword, cane and throw. 117 vit should be enuf to get 700 bonus matk from strugg. hi, thank you for your reply! but what if i end up only adding like 70 vit? |
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Post by °Malice° on Jan 2, 2021 4:04:23 GMT
Strugg works with sword, cane and throw. 117 vit should be enuf to get 700 bonus matk from strugg. hi, thank you for your reply! but what if i end up only adding like 70 vit? Probably u wont get any matk bonus The formula itself says 0.06*vit*100=x If x > 700, matk up by x |
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Post by whatisanameeven? on Jan 2, 2021 4:14:19 GMT
hi, thank you for your reply! but what if i end up only adding like 70 vit? Probably u wont get any matk bonus The formula itself says 0.06*vit*100=x If x > 700, matk up by x ah that's true. thank you very much! |
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Post by bikini on Feb 11, 2021 23:21:34 GMT
i think lvl affect too
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Post by whatisanameeven? on Feb 12, 2021 8:40:02 GMT
thank you. i actually realised that some time after i posted this |
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Post by °Malice° on Feb 12, 2021 9:49:45 GMT
From what i learn, Lv is not a factor of increasing dmg with strugg. After rebalance, dev makes mana/battle mastery got increasing dmg too as ur lvl goes up, not only increasing raw ATK/MATK. This dmg refers to melee and magic damage.
I can say that lvl plays a good factor for increasing dmg.
U can check in rebalance patch thread.
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Post by Undyne on Feb 12, 2021 17:27:24 GMT
From what i learn, Lv is not a factor of increasing dmg with strugg. After rebalance, dev makes mana/battle mastery got increasing dmg too as ur lvl goes up, not only increasing raw ATK/MATK. This dmg refers to melee and magic damage. I can say that lvl plays a good factor for increasing dmg. U can check in rebalance patch thread. level is a determining factor for struggler. Your level directly affects how much Vit is required for the entire bonus. You'll only get the entire bonus from 117 Vit until you're near cap. Struggler also does give Matk when you don't meet the minimum Vit requirement. It is purely there to hit the max Bonus. |
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Post by Undyne on Feb 12, 2021 17:33:16 GMT
hi, it's my first time using this so i hope this is the correct place for this :/ so i'm not sure if i should use struggler because after hearing from others, i know struggler is a very good and popular armour for hw and necro (the 2 i'm considering, leaning more towards necro) but many use vit build. currently, i plan to go the glass build route since i'm usually in a pt, so i might add about 100 vit once i've maxed int and dex then use the rest for other stats. since matk up for struggler is based on vit, is it worth it to get a struggler since i won't be getting the full benefits of the matk? or is it better to go for another armour with high matk? the reason why i'm still considering struggler is because the high magic pierce and spellburst. I would ultimately get at least 200 Vit on Hw or Necro. I'd definitely recommend capping Vit with Necro as there's frankly little reason not to. At current cap, you get enough stats to cap 3 +270 extra roughly. Another issue is, Glass cannons are considered a waste in the current meta. compared to Geo Monk and Enchanter, Hw and Necro have much lower dps. I would focus on being comfortable playing opposed to glass cannon, optimized dmg route because frankly, neither will do anywhere near the Dps of the top classes anyway. makes pts hard to get. This coming from a Necro/Hw main lol... |
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Post by whatisanameeven? on Feb 13, 2021 14:27:55 GMT
hi, it's my first time using this so i hope this is the correct place for this :/ so i'm not sure if i should use struggler because after hearing from others, i know struggler is a very good and popular armour for hw and necro (the 2 i'm considering, leaning more towards necro) but many use vit build. currently, i plan to go the glass build route since i'm usually in a pt, so i might add about 100 vit once i've maxed int and dex then use the rest for other stats. since matk up for struggler is based on vit, is it worth it to get a struggler since i won't be getting the full benefits of the matk? or is it better to go for another armour with high matk? the reason why i'm still considering struggler is because the high magic pierce and spellburst. I would ultimately get at least 200 Vit on Hw or Necro. I'd definitely recommend capping Vit with Necro as there's frankly little reason not to. At current cap, you get enough stats to cap 3 +270 extra roughly. Another issue is, Glass cannons are considered a waste in the current meta. compared to Geo Monk and Enchanter, Hw and Necro have much lower dps. I would focus on being comfortable playing opposed to glass cannon, optimized dmg route because frankly, neither will do anywhere near the Dps of the top classes anyway. makes pts hard to get. This coming from a Necro/Hw main lol... i totally forgot what the point of this thread was oof. but now my fickle self has actually decided that i do wanna max vit, something i decided on quite some time ago after realising glass cannon is indeed pretty bad x.x thanks for your input! |
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Post by °Malice° on Feb 13, 2021 15:32:38 GMT
Im not good with magic class but if u going for a max vit build maybe u can stack of these effect
Drag o (matk up by 90% vit)
Forte rod (matk up by 60% vit)
Spy mask up (matk up by 75% vit)
U can get raw matk by 225% of ur vit. U got nice hp and ur vit supports ur matk too.
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Post by whatisanameeven? on Feb 14, 2021 14:32:42 GMT
Im not good with magic class but if u going for a max vit build maybe u can stack of these effect Drag o (matk up by 90% vit) Forte rod (matk up by 60% vit) Spy mask up (matk up by 75% vit) U can get raw matk by 225% of ur vit. U got nice hp and ur vit supports ur matk too. ooh doesn't sound like a too bad idea tbh. but i doubt i'll be adding enough vit for those options to give the best result. still, it's an interesting suggestion! thanks |
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