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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Jan 16, 2021 23:02:05 GMT
ah my bad its actually 10m(hp) luna is on port bailune, and talk to varuna, there you can test dps, when killed the luna, dps result will appears. Β Β imgur.com/a/mcVcbLLΒ Heres summoner dps on 10m luna doll only self buffs and apostolia no drugs like candies. The thing with their picture on Cheltil damage is that Farfy are wind element and do obviously more damage to water element, you pretty much one shot all bosses under with 2,5m hp while having Command: Destroy active. 13 sec is fastest I have done glichless and with self buffs only. you always prefer having monks chakra over spell boost. Wow My Summuner is much weaker than yours. About Farfies, I though adding details about element would be kinda redundant. But yeah, it still counts as a DPS booster.
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Post by rolling on Jan 17, 2021 11:40:58 GMT
imgur.com/a/mcVcbLL Heres summoner dps on 10m luna doll only self buffs and apostolia no drugs like candies. The thing with their picture on Cheltil damage is that Farfy are wind element and do obviously more damage to water element, you pretty much one shot all bosses under with 2,5m hp while having Command: Destroy active. 13 sec is fastest I have done glichless and with self buffs only. you always prefer having monks chakra over spell boost. Wow My Summuner is much weaker than yours. About Farfies, I though adding details about element would be kinda redundant. But yeah, it still counts as a DPS booster. I went to check my damage on Cheltil, I did only like 50k more than you with self buffs and no drugs. I don't think its necessary for summoner to use drugs but sometimes they can be helpful. for example when I was solo grinding at mg I did used them because their HP is like 1,3m so it caused some problems with them staying at like 100k HP during farfies normal attacks and then use skill 4 on 1HP target which was annoying so I was always was waiting for apostolia and would ask some monk to use chakra on me to maximize damage. Right now I don't need to do any of those because I can reach 17k ATK 10k MATK just with apostolia and my gear (I use boo 1s) and with chakra like 21k ATK 7k MATK which is always better, so I don't bother drugging up but its for sure useful. Now on element thing, melee to element+ or elemental magic+ on gear is completely irrelevant for summoner, your summons gain nothing from them but they do have their own element boosters which I think is scaling as MAGIC to element + (for example baby wolf does more to fire and lesser to water with skill 3, and not sure about skill 4).
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Post by rolling on Mar 23, 2021 22:48:48 GMT
Added Sections: "Summons" "Summon Ai"
Updates/Changes: Changed "Additional information" to "Must Know" Added information in "Must Know"
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Post by zharc on Jul 30, 2021 6:49:58 GMT
Hi! I Tried summoner and your guide is helping me a lot, with the Sets i need to have so that i could use it much easier like pots, defense, Ailments, and buffs! Im a lvl 344 Summ with apos mq only due to solo grinding easily...(Planning to Overcap so my Summons Hp is Higher) xD
Stats (so far): 408 Str/Int/Dex 100 Vit
Currently my Dmg sets are: Reverse SauII 2x Boo Lu Ideaus Monty Lu Ideaus AA Ideaus 2x
Al: 6 cyan 2 Blue (Since its Cheaper for me but ill change it soon to 6 Yellow 2 red as i am farming for spina) Vida Enina Ouvel Gatekeeper Adventurer
Dealing 650k with my PER Farfly's and 680k-710k with my Baby Wolf (Highest Dmg with only self buffs)
Overall, pretty good and one shotting 3i's with destroy, not yet satisfied tho becuz of lacking of lvl's in apos and Relics... XD
Curacion Set Helps alot! qwq Exp and Drop set is indeed very useful for summoner! Mana/Item Recovery, not full but, a bit used for.me Hp/Disable set, Using it for hp since no xtal/abi yet xD, Tho it lessens the dmg a little which is kinda good.... XD Mpc for Leadership Charging
So far those are the sets i have and currently working in progress My Bleed set is ready, just lacking xtals but all 2s except brc is complete... Freeze set, erm... Maybe this will be last prioritized... xd
Pretty much, i understand all your information for summoner, tho if u noticed something wrong or shouldn't be used... Just freely tell, and can u also tell what i would prioritize to completing a set... Advance Thank you uwu
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Post by rolling on Jul 30, 2021 16:34:10 GMT
Hi! I Tried summoner and your guide is helping me a lot, with the Sets i need to have so that i could use it much easier like pots, defense, Ailments, and buffs! Im a lvl 344 Summ with apos mq only due to solo grinding easily...(Planning to Overcap so my Summons Hp is Higher) xD Stats (so far): 408 Str/Int/Dex 100 Vit Currently my Dmg sets are: Reverse SauII 2x Boo Lu Ideaus Monty Lu Ideaus AA Ideaus 2x Al: 6 cyan 2 Blue (Since its Cheaper for me but ill change it soon to 6 Yellow 2 red as i am farming for spina) Vida Enina Ouvel Gatekeeper Adventurer Dealing 650k with my PER Farfly's and 680k-710k with my Baby Wolf (Highest Dmg with only self buffs) Overall, pretty good and one shotting 3i's with destroy, not yet satisfied tho becuz of lacking of lvl's in apos and Relics... XD Curacion Set Helps alot! qwq Exp and Drop set is indeed very useful for summoner! Mana/Item Recovery, not full but, a bit used for.me Hp/Disable set, Using it for hp since no xtal/abi yet xD, Tho it lessens the dmg a little which is kinda good.... XD Mpc for Leadership Charging So far those are the sets i have and currently working in progress My Bleed set is ready, just lacking xtals but all 2s except brc is complete... Freeze set, erm... Maybe this will be last prioritized... xd Pretty much, i understand all your information for summoner, tho if u noticed something wrong or shouldn't be used... Just freely tell, and can u also tell what i would prioritize to completing a set... Advance Thank you uwu Yeah, it seems like you're getting what summoner should do really well. Anyways, in my opinion you should probably save up and buy Sea Muscle AL crysta and change Gatekeeper with it. Getting higher Lv will not just make your summons tankier but also will increase damage due to increase in stats yada yada yada. Your Farfy dmg seems fine but Baby Wolf is a little bit low, so just cap your STR INT DEX and you're gonna be good. For add you can wait until anniversary event is held (soon) and just get Lotus Ribbons 2s, shouldn't be that hard or expensive. I'm not sure IF it beats Monty but either way they should be on the same page in damage... Might get one myself. Freeze set is 2 items without any crystas or anything so its really worth getting, especially if your summons gonna be the one tanking the boss. Now a little bit about bleed set. Bleed damage is actually getting buffed, they made it so summons physical damage attacks can crit. (CRT doesn't affect it in any way so dmg boost is capped at 50%) And then Asobimo also made new form of damage increase, aka "Clean Hit" which summons also benefit from. With that being said it doesn't really make sense on how it would increase bleed damage right? Its pretty simple, Summoners bleed damage depends on Baby Wolf's Skill 2 damage, and then that damage gets amplified with all your Bleed dmg+%. When new skills released summoner probably wont need bleed dmg at all but we'll see in future. With information that we got now, making a better bleed set would be adding Accuracy 5/4/3/2 abilities, to increase Clean Hit proc rate. By my calculations, summoners bleed should be able to reach 600k dmg per enemy attack. Go and buy Bloody Pash, better weapon for bleed set. And yes, you shouldn't listen to what is said in "Why play summoner?" because you shouldn't play it  its a bad class.
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Post by zharc on Jul 31, 2021 1:14:35 GMT
I actually thought of replacing GK with Sea muscle, Atk+10% is very huge for an Al crysta, Freeze set could be worth buying since it is not complicated to use, just... Never saw someone selling those so itll be kinda hard to buy... Also! I was incorrect on baby wolf highest dmg, my highest dmg made on 3i is 810k which i was shocked tbh sadly farfly is 618k-600k?? Im not sure xd... I never really used baby wolf except for boss farming, i always use farfly in grinding and Mob farming, since it heals me and deal dmg at the same time... Here's how i do it uwu youtu.be/c6V-Wf8En14Im a little bit confused of bleed set... So you're saying that its okay to not buy the set? Tho i really liked how the play style works when i watched u soloed flammel, also i think rebalance on en server will be next year and not this year... So im guessing ill still buy the set uwu Also, i wish next rebalance, knight colon should be atleast useful xd... all it has is like high Hp, very useful for tanking but, i dont know what playstyle i can use it... (Maybe because i dont like being a tank xD)
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Post by rolling on Aug 1, 2021 0:36:45 GMT
I actually thought of replacing GK with Sea muscle, Atk+10% is very huge for an Al crysta, Freeze set could be worth buying since it is not complicated to use, just... Never saw someone selling those so itll be kinda hard to buy... Also! I was incorrect on baby wolf highest dmg, my highest dmg made on 3i is 810k which i was shocked tbh sadly farfly is 618k-600k?? Im not sure xd... I never really used baby wolf except for boss farming, i always use farfly in grinding and Mob farming, since it heals me and deal dmg at the same time... Here's how i do it uwu youtu.be/c6V-Wf8En14Im a little bit confused of bleed set... So you're saying that its okay to not buy the set? Tho i really liked how the play style works when i watched u soloed flammel, also i think rebalance on en server will be next year and not this year... So im guessing ill still buy the set uwu Also, i wish next rebalance, knight colon should be atleast useful xd... all it has is like high Hp, very useful for tanking but, i dont know what playstyle i can use it... (Maybe because i dont like being a tank xD) I didn't put like conclusion for whole Bleed set thing, but what I said is. Its worth getting for some bosses and that its getting a buff. I personally would use it no matter what as long as it helps me kill some type of boss in particular.
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Post by zharc on Aug 3, 2021 12:37:52 GMT
Somehow... I got 6yellow 2red lines, and atk&matk went from 11k/6.1k to 12k/5.9k, and somehow i tried to test dmg on 10m luna... I got 810k from baby wolf freeze claw, same dmg with old al set... And farfly high and dry 550k which is lower than before which is 600k (not using ignite) ... I got the sm al too... Does yellow line gets better once i got monty lu 2s??... Becus i almost have the same build as yours but lacking 5k on atk and 4k on matk... Im wondering if ur relics are fixed/finished and i know u are high lvl already... Any tips?
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Post by rolling on Aug 4, 2021 16:11:17 GMT
Somehow... I got 6yellow 2red lines, and atk&matk went from 11k/6.1k to 12k/5.9k, and somehow i tried to test dmg on 10m luna... I got 810k from baby wolf freeze claw, same dmg with old al set... And farfly high and dry 550k which is lower than before which is 600k (not using ignite) ... I got the sm al too... Does yellow line gets better once i got monty lu 2s??... Becus i almost have the same build as yours but lacking 5k on atk and 4k on matk... Im wondering if ur relics are fixed/finished and i know u are high lvl already... Any tips? My relics are no where close to be done but I just kinda gave up on them when I didn't get Roy 6 block for like 25+ attempts... I use only Horutes and Vida now, for weapon I use Total Remodeled Sling aka trs which is a bit hard to get but if you do things right you should have around same atk & matk as me. Basically focus on levels and stats right now and other thing is, use self buffs such as spell boost and Cait Sith's Cheer (you can make it use buff in towns). also make sure your STR is 1 point higher than INT at all times so you get better buff from Cheer. On another topic, since last patch our summons physical attacks can now crit and basically dmg increase is pretty good, but dont add CRT or sht like that, doesn't affect summons at all. Anyways you can check how my dmg got affected by the buff in these pics. imgur.com/a/o040bomBleed dmg is without clean hit as I told you before, if you get it Clean Hit on Baby Wolf skill 2 you can get even higher dmg.
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Post by zharc on Aug 6, 2021 17:07:45 GMT
Damn Thats a hard one to get, especially as my ench got big nerfed, i hardly farm this days... but with clean hit and crt dmg on summons now it increased a lot of dmg with my summon! my wolf highest dmg rn is 1.31m crt and ch! i didnt change anything at all, and i tried getting tons of accuracy and dexterity abilities on my bleed set rn, currently its not complete becuz im not doing mq and im lacking sbs for it, tho its working really well, tho i ask... why cant i see my bleed dmg on luna? i have used bloody pash frigate and c.mail x2Miasma... still not visible... also im almost complete with my summoner dmg set, currently trying to buy cheap monty 2s or trying to get lotus ribbon 2s in anniv event... bleed set also almost complete, only need sbs... freeze on work with ice burn mats... And curacion set is lacking l.coat 2s, using 1s for now... and disable set is a hard one for me... item recovery doesnt really need to rush... mpc -100%... thats all my set
also im being impatient to lvl up now, i think overcapping isnt really needed but, i feel like i badly want it but its so hard and prolly takes me months... so im thinking to start mq again and stop grinding... lvl 160+ int dex str is kinda good so far... tho its still lacking, maybe if i start mq ill invest alot on vit... currently 100 xD so thats my summ, nothing really big changed
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Aug 6, 2021 18:32:31 GMT
Damn Thats a hard one to get, especially as my ench got big nerfed, i hardly farm this days... but with clean hit and crt dmg on summons now it increased a lot of dmg with my summon! my wolf highest dmg rn is 1.31m crt and ch! i didnt change anything at all, and i tried getting tons of accuracy and dexterity abilities on my bleed set rn, currently its not complete becuz im not doing mq and im lacking sbs for it, tho its working really well, tho i ask... why cant i see my bleed dmg on luna? i have used bloody pash frigate and c.mail x2Miasma... still not visible... also im almost complete with my summoner dmg set, currently trying to buy cheap monty 2s or trying to get lotus ribbon 2s in anniv event... bleed set also almost complete, only need sbs... freeze on work with ice burn mats... And curacion set is lacking l.coat 2s, using 1s for now... and disable set is a hard one for me... item recovery doesnt really need to rush... mpc -100%... thats all my set also im being impatient to lvl up now, i think overcapping isnt really needed but, i feel like i badly want it but its so hard and prolly takes me months... so im thinking to start mq again and stop grinding... lvl 160+ int dex str is kinda good so far... tho its still lacking, maybe if i start mq ill invest alot on vit... currently 100 xD so thats my summ, nothing really big changed Bleed damage is activated only when the enemy attacks. That is why in Luna will never show, because it can not attack.
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Post by rolling on Aug 6, 2021 19:49:26 GMT
Damn Thats a hard one to get, especially as my ench got big nerfed, i hardly farm this days... but with clean hit and crt dmg on summons now it increased a lot of dmg with my summon! my wolf highest dmg rn is 1.31m crt and ch! i didnt change anything at all, and i tried getting tons of accuracy and dexterity abilities on my bleed set rn, currently its not complete becuz im not doing mq and im lacking sbs for it, tho its working really well, tho i ask... why cant i see my bleed dmg on luna? i have used bloody pash frigate and c.mail x2Miasma... still not visible... also im almost complete with my summoner dmg set, currently trying to buy cheap monty 2s or trying to get lotus ribbon 2s in anniv event... bleed set also almost complete, only need sbs... freeze on work with ice burn mats... And curacion set is lacking l.coat 2s, using 1s for now... and disable set is a hard one for me... item recovery doesnt really need to rush... mpc -100%... thats all my set also im being impatient to lvl up now, i think overcapping isnt really needed but, i feel like i badly want it but its so hard and prolly takes me months... so im thinking to start mq again and stop grinding... lvl 160+ int dex str is kinda good so far... tho its still lacking, maybe if i start mq ill invest alot on vit... currently 100 xD so thats my summ, nothing really big changed As Nobody already said, bleed damage appears only when opponent attacks. Other thing is... Don't use ice burn for freeze set, freeze set is needed to get longer freeze time and not to apply it yourself because it usually gonna end up in being a time waste. I'm not sure, but I think that Lotus Ribbon up wasn't released. I haven't checked myself so don't take my word for granted.
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Post by zharc on Aug 7, 2021 11:11:50 GMT
As a old player of iruna, i feel dumb xD... Never knew bleed can only be shown through enemies ettack owo... Also i got confused about ice burn, i thought its for the freeze set since i saw some players buy ice burn with ice cape and never really looked into the stats of it, such a derp moment of me xD... and yeah, i didnt saw any ups of lotus ribbons yet so ill go monty for now... Ty for the answers! I guessed my questions will stopped there for now, thanks alot!
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Post by rolling on Aug 8, 2021 2:26:04 GMT
As a old player of iruna, i feel dumb xD... Never knew bleed can only be shown through enemies ettack owo... Also i got confused about ice burn, i thought its for the freeze set since i saw some players buy ice burn with ice cape and never really looked into the stats of it, such a derp moment of me xD... and yeah, i didnt saw any ups of lotus ribbons yet so ill go monty for now... Ty for the answers! I guessed my questions will stopped there for now, thanks alot! That's only for other classes, and even then you could probably run Audlus as add to proc freeze but on summoner you prefer having Freeze Time +X sec. Azure Ama and Ice Cape does the job for that. Other thing I didn't discuss yet is the update. You can use firepower set to summon your summons and then change to Accuracy/HIT set and you will have capped Clean Hit rate and all you sacrifice for that is tanking yourself. So depending on how hard the boss is your fight probably would be like entering a boss map, Command: Skill 1 Lv X to proc Command Area that appears at the start of combat, MP Cost set and charging leadership, then pressing destroy and changing to Freeze Set, Command: Skill 3 Lv X, and when freeze procs use Accuracy/HIT set to proc more Clean Hits. (X means any lv does the job, personally I use Lv 1). If you can kill the boss in under 10 sec, just don't bother using Freeze Set, just switch to Clean Hit set and start the Combat with Command: Skill 3. (Its all for Baby Wolf, other summons dmg doesn't come anywhere close). Clean Hit set I use right now: Legacy of Will II - clean Ultimi (no up) - clean Thief Bandana (last up) - clean Gauntlet+ - no slot You can add Vasaria Crystas if you for some reason lack HIT but I wouldn't, thinking of maybe changing add to something with MP Cost so I can use Command Area to charge Leadership while wearing it, like Hydrangea Hat and put Rossam Crystas on every slot. I have about 2100 HIT and it caps Clean Hit rate for me I think.... I believe 1800 is enough but don't take my word for granted on this one. P.S. Don't feel dumb about not knowing PIE. Like what, someone gonna pick on you for something so stupid? They are fking nerds and you already won... unless... you're a nerd yourself. L then.
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Post by Done~with~forums on Aug 8, 2021 18:24:08 GMT
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