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Post by Vanestia on Aug 31, 2020 17:45:34 GMT
I recently created a Necromancer, it is currently level 221, I wanna know if a cmoon ReReUp 2s with Shadow of wandering + Sau2 Will beat dbookvol4 1s Sau2 (i think there exist a lil diff)
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Post by Owe on Aug 31, 2020 18:29:06 GMT
So CMoon has about extra 17% matk and 1% extra spell burst (negligible but still there), whereas dark book would have 10% extra dark magic. I believe in most complete gear sets the dark magic would be more impactful dmg wise. Also MP directly affects your durability because higher mp means higher summon health. Int+5 will give your more mp than the extra 10% maxmp you’d get from CMoon. In my opinion dark book is the winner. You could put 2 shadows on the c moon, and at that point your dmg might be higher, but your durability is lower because you would definitely have less mp and hp comparatively.
tl;dr Unless you already have c moon, I’d go dark book
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Post by Vanestia on Aug 31, 2020 23:12:28 GMT
So CMoon has about extra 17% matk and 1% extra spell burst (negligible but still there), whereas dark book would have 10% extra dark magic. I believe in most complete gear sets the dark magic would be more impactful dmg wise. Also MP directly affects your durability because higher mp means higher summon health. Int+5 will give your more mp than the extra 10% maxmp you’d get from CMoon. In my opinion dark book is the winner. You could put 2 shadows on the c moon, and at that point your dmg might be higher, but your durability is lower because you would definitely have less mp and hp comparatively. tl;dr Unless you already have c moon, I’d go dark book Hmm since i created necro from a character slot i've done cmoon 2s @310 (Max Quality) i got it when was leveling carp, used for drop set in the past, now with the last up is the most over powered weapon for enchanter's dark set i been doing some test at yardes i got the following dmg log with death cry Dark Book @max clean: 100k-106k high lower/medium 94-96k Cmoon last up max clean: 97k-99.4k higher Lower/medium: 90-93k So with sow only it will be = than dbook clean or a bit more. Even if dbook has Sau2, cmoon Shadow/Sau2 could beat dbook 1s but if dbook 2s easy beat any rod, not sure yet with the pros/cons need the fórmula for % Magic and % elemental Magic i'm farming Shadow xtall and Al x.x
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Sept 1, 2020 11:24:33 GMT
If both were 2s I'd go for Dark Book x2 Sauro II.
I use Crescent Moon 2s x2 Sauro II, But, Crescent Moon with 1 Sauro II was slighty stronger than Dark Book IV Clean.
So Dark Book IV x2 Sauro II would beat anything.
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Post by Undyne on Sept 2, 2020 4:12:44 GMT
Dark Magic% is generally the king of Dmg for Necro. Aim to have about 120%, then focus Matk. I would use C Moon if you already have it, but Dark Book 2s would absolutely destroy anything. My 2s destroyed even Universe 2s.
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Post by ishayel on Sept 2, 2020 15:35:48 GMT
The thing is you don't have months or years to get the darkbook 2s, use crescent moon 2s. Help to stay alive ( 40% hp and mp )
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Sept 2, 2020 15:54:05 GMT
Right, I got my Crescent 2s in 2 days. And Catalpa 2s in 5 hours.
Maybe I never will get something from bosses.
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Post by Vanestia on Sept 2, 2020 17:27:03 GMT
The thing is you don't have months or years to get the darkbook 2s, use crescent moon 2s. Help to stay alive ( 40% hp and mp ) Time ago i got one dbook 2s with my Main acc <Hikaru> (high wizard) so 2019 abril (before anniv event) i sold it to Aza.jr
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Post by Undyne on Sept 2, 2020 19:45:35 GMT
The thing is you don't have months or years to get the darkbook 2s, use crescent moon 2s. Help to stay alive ( 40% hp and mp ) Difference being, Dark Book is from a Lv 75 boss who can be one shot relatively easily with Ice Spear lol... I would definitely attempt to upgrade at some point.
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Post by ishayel on Sept 4, 2020 11:37:35 GMT
Seem you have bought your darkbook 2s 😂 I play since years, and a lot of farm, up to 10h per day, have drop 2 gear 2s and crafted one 2s aside crescent moon, crystal hammer and magic dagger, those are not so hard to get. But even if you one shoot the boss, with the animation skipped and walk, run is around 20-30s. Get a darkbook ( ns, s or 2s) take a lot more time than get a crescent. Well 1 crescent min per earthquake, and get a darkbook takes avg of 10 runs. If you avg the times, get a crescent 1s, get a darkbook 250s. If getting a 2s crescent takes avg 10h ( in fact less but some unlucky to up this stats), getting a darkbook 2s will take 2500 h... All avg, but getting it at first kill or in 2 days is a very huge luck lol Well, this is a couple of hours that will surely make a lot of people leave this game definitivly. ( i don't speak about getting a universe 2s, but you have the idea. But getting the 2 by drop, well i get an advice, play lotto 😂, or stop cashing to buy them and tell others to drop coz easy.) So in final, crescent 2s is not first choice, but it will surely furfill his rôle very well until you get the luck to get better ( with the help of this avatar tickets or other rare drop you can sell) So for beginners, crescent 2s will do it very well, with 2 sauro 2. Enjoy you char, play with it, discover how it works and suit to your gameplay, but don't try to get gear 2s other than basic ones, no need to worry about and leave game because bored at start to play at push skip button during days, month, years lol
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Sept 4, 2020 12:47:02 GMT
Seem you have bought your darkbook 2s 😂 I play since years, and a lot of farm, up to 10h per day, have drop 2 gear 2s and crafted one 2s aside crescent moon, crystal hammer and magic dagger, those are not so hard to get. But even if you one shoot the boss, with the animation skipped and walk, run is around 20-30s. Get a darkbook ( ns, s or 2s) take a lot more time than get a crescent. Well 1 crescent min per earthquake, and get a darkbook takes avg of 10 runs. If you avg the times, get a crescent 1s, get a darkbook 250s. If getting a 2s crescent takes avg 10h ( in fact less but some unlucky to up this stats), getting a darkbook 2s will take 2500 h... All avg, but getting it at first kill or in 2 days is a very huge luck lol Well, this is a couple of hours that will surely make a lot of people leave this game definitivly. ( i don't speak about getting a universe 2s, but you have the idea. But getting the 2 by drop, well i get an advice, play lotto 😂, or stop cashing to buy them and tell others to drop coz easy.) So in final, crescent 2s is not first choice, but it will surely furfill his rôle very well until you get the luck to get better ( with the help of this avatar tickets or other rare drop you can sell) So for beginners, crescent 2s will do it very well, with 2 sauro 2. Enjoy you char, play with it, discover how it works and suit to your gameplay, but don't try to get gear 2s other than basic ones, no need to worry about and leave game because bored at start to play at push skip button during days, month, years lol Exactly, look at me, playing since January 2014 and after years farming my only 2s things are my Crescent Moon and Reverse Shigeto Bow. Still if a boss is easy, the chances of getting its 2s drop is almost impossible, even worse if you are a free player like me. Not even drops from exp monsters, and those are the ones who people get 2s most of the times, for obvious reasons. Concluding, I decided a long time ago to play just because I enjoy the game and pass some time, not because I wanted to be the most OP Gary Stu Kirito in the game.
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Post by Vanestia on Sept 4, 2020 20:09:52 GMT
The thing is you don't have months or years to get the darkbook 2s, use crescent moon 2s. Help to stay alive ( 40% hp and mp ) Difference being, Dark Book is from a Lv 75 boss who can be one shot relatively easily with Ice Spear lol... I would definitely attempt to upgrade at some point. Ummm and what about use Shadow of wandering on struggler? It would beat Fred or Drag o? (I strongly doubt that shadow of wandering is stronger than Drag - o - lantern but if it is stronger than Fred it would be a good thing?) I had thinking again about something like crescent moon sauro / shadow of wandering struggler LU shadow of wandering Dark Helm Up 2s dunk2x2 CoL Agira for the moment for me, cmoon makes it faster to summon and attack with death cry and corpse burst ... I mean for the momment for leveling apostolia seems good bcoz don't doing mq i stopped at oltolga i have each lv 80 and have full vit 330 int 320 and dex 220 i do level at yardes
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Post by Undyne on Sept 5, 2020 2:19:15 GMT
Difference being, Dark Book is from a Lv 75 boss who can be one shot relatively easily with Ice Spear lol... I would definitely attempt to upgrade at some point. Ummm and what about use Shadow of wandering on struggler? It would beat Fred or Drag o? (I strongly doubt that shadow of wandering is stronger than Drag - o - lantern but if it is stronger than Fred it would be a good thing?) I had thinking again about something like crescent moon sauro / shadow of wandering struggler LU shadow of wandering Dark Helm Up 2s dunk2x2 CoL Agira for the moment for me, cmoon makes it faster to summon and attack with death cry and corpse burst ... I mean for the momment for leveling apostolia seems good bcoz don't doing mq i stopped at oltolga i have each lv 80 and have full vit 330 int 320 and dex 220 i do level at yardes Drag O would likely win. With necro, you want mostly Mat k focused gear later on. Al+Buff for Dark magic+weapon is generally enough Magic.
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Post by Vanestia on Sept 8, 2020 22:27:34 GMT
Ummm and what about use Shadow of wandering on struggler? It would beat Fred or Drag o? (I strongly doubt that shadow of wandering is stronger than Drag - o - lantern but if it is stronger than Fred it would be a good thing?) I had thinking again about something like crescent moon sauro / shadow of wandering struggler LU shadow of wandering Dark Helm Up 2s dunk2x2 CoL Agira for the moment for me, cmoon makes it faster to summon and attack with death cry and corpse burst ... I mean for the momment for leveling apostolia seems good bcoz don't doing mq i stopped at oltolga i have each lv 80 and have full vit 330 int 320 and dex 220 i do level at yardes Drag O would likely win. With necro, you want mostly Mat k focused gear later on. Al+Buff for Dark magic+weapon is generally enough Magic. Got it Btw does scholar ring 2s have any worth?
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Post by Undyne on Sept 8, 2020 23:24:57 GMT
Scholar Ring is a great 2s Resist equip, so it'd definitely be worth a bit. As for prices, I don't do Rokoko/Trading lol... I'd recommend advertising/PC in the Market thread.
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