robocosan
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people started using hololive names ingame because of me. im tired of iruna, quitting.
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Post by robocosan on Sept 26, 2020 8:28:23 GMT
yea thats what i also thought. yep thats why for bishop use light magic matk set for the first phase and the yul auto skill set for the 2nd phase, first phase bishop will do decently high damage to her as she is dark, and the 2nd phase in which she changes to light element then the autoskill yul of dark set will do the job, you just need to super refine your armor and add equipments on both set to quality 20, recommended equipments for both sets are on the 2nd page of this thread theres was no need to quote yourself because i know what youre doing. i still doubt magic auto crystas would do the job. remember youre not an ench, your magic auto's dmg has a cap plus josh has very high resistance, even if you have 2s gears you will still be handicapped by the dmg cap.
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robocosan
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people started using hololive names ingame because of me. im tired of iruna, quitting.
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Post by robocosan on Sept 26, 2020 8:31:23 GMT
and about josh's 2nd phase element, bish can change an enemy's element to dark right? or josh/bosses are not affected of that skill?
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Post by divinelight on Sept 26, 2020 9:57:26 GMT
yep thats why for bishop use light magic matk set for the first phase and the yul auto skill set for the 2nd phase, first phase bishop will do decently high damage to her as she is dark, and the 2nd phase in which she changes to light element then the autoskill yul of dark set will do the job, you just need to super refine your armor and add equipments on both set to quality 20, recommended equipments for both sets are on the 2nd page of this thread theres was no need to quote yourself because i know what youre doing. i still doubt magic auto crystas would do the job. remember youre not an ench, your magic auto's dmg has a cap plus josh has very high resistance, even if you have 2s gears you will still be handicapped by the dmg cap. lichter does not work on bosses, and yes there will be damage cap but as long as the dark autoskill set with yul via phrase set switch from matk set to the dark auto yul set upon non-mq joshuca form change could at least do enough dps to defeat the 2nd phase before 15 minutes in total time of the battle is reached then its would be good enough even if the method would be rather slow, but we need to wait until yul is released in order to test it, yul is mentioned to be as strong as dajarte or even stronger but without the negative magic resistance of dajarte and the activation rate is confirmed to be 10% by a jp player so the abilities on autoskill set may need to be changed autoskill levels 5 to 4, and rate cut level 5 to 3 for balance rc and auto along with halios al and mirage dagger 2s sauro2 frederico giving a total of about 10+5+9+8+9= 41% autoskill activation rate for each of the yul proc out of the 3 yuls that each does dajarte or greater level damage and if we factor in element advantage it might be the best shot and possibly only hope for bishop to solo non-mq joshuca, and here is the yul autoskill rate confirmation by a jp player gamp.ameblo.jp/acedia328/entry-12377057414.html
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Post by Undyne on Sept 26, 2020 14:37:27 GMT
A non Enchanter will not do enough dps with Yul xtals to solo Joshuca. You'll most likely be hitting 2 autos per hit at most with around 20k dmg during the second half. First half would be even lower since she's Dark element.
I would 100% focus on nemesis/Holy spike damage if you want a chance to kill her. For reference, on my Necro, who normally does 1.1m to Light only does 350k to Joshuca Phase 2. Her magic resist is way too high for magic autos on a non-Enchanter, even with the element advantage.
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Post by Done~with~forums on Sept 26, 2020 15:07:51 GMT
I think u would need around 200k+ dps to kill her within the time limit
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Dragsbro
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I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Sept 27, 2020 12:34:13 GMT
I think u would need around 200k+ dps to kill her within the time limit eeeeer 200k dps over 15 minutes would be 180m dmg total wouldnt it?
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Post by Done~with~forums on Sept 27, 2020 18:00:46 GMT
I think u would need around 200k+ dps to kill her within the time limit eeeeer 200k dps over 15 minutes would be 180m dmg total wouldnt it? my bad my bad its just I was doing around 100k per hit without counting my auto skill dmg and it took me 7mins+ to kill her i just guesstimate my full dps
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Post by senoragi on Feb 16, 2021 15:19:32 GMT
Does anyone know a magic spell using class that can solo joshuca in non-mq mode other than alchemist provided they have the necessary sets of equipments like resist,disable and or also utilizes survival skills etc? And if there are iruna magic class using youtubers reading could you please provide a non-cut video showing your magic spell using class other than alchemist to solo non-mq mode joshuca? Thank you if you could do that. I have only seen alchemist so far being able to solo non-mq mode joshuca, but it will be very interesting and neat seeing if other magic spell casting class can also solo non-mq mode joshuca too provided they are well prepared I did it with my Paladin Light Magic (x.x) I just need a lot of pots :v
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Post by blackghost on Feb 17, 2021 1:42:32 GMT
That boss probably has very high mdef and pdef. Has no effect against ailments though. That makes it easier to kill it using ailments. The major problem with other class is that, they need to stay in one spot and deal damage, that gives joshua very high chance to inflict stun and instant kill a player. Alchemist advantage is that, even when stunned they can continue to deal high constant dmg with ailments. And once they inflict ailments, Alchemist can just make a run to avoid traps, because it's a bad idea to stay close to joshua. Other classes seriously have no advantages at all against joshua. Other classes need to get close to joshua to do any dmg and that's just what that boss needs to easily kill any player, by getting close. Eh? You sure its just stunning is the danger? Cause if it was that was just it then paladins with awake skill would solo them. Especially their first 50% HP where they're dark (Spam holy thrust) and the other 50% which is light just spam guardian. But you never hear of paladins having the ability to solo non mq Joshua, why is this? The area of effect. Joshuca has 2 dangerous moves that are basically just isekai cheat abilities. The stun-->K.O. and the area of effect that takes major chunks of your HP every second.
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Post by blackghost on Feb 17, 2021 1:48:26 GMT
Maybe an enchanter using ailment based dangos like poison dango then using illness hit can solo Joshua? Idk. I'm still new to the enchanter world.
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Post by blackghost on Feb 17, 2021 1:53:29 GMT
If you use weapons like Excalibur (heavy light dmg autoskill) and Eraser (100% trigger rate low DMG autoskill) and adds like, fallen angel wing (high DMG dark autoskill and 20% MATK) and Angel ring (MATK15% and a high DMG light Autoskill) it'll go smoothly (probably, I haven't reached Joshua in enchanter alt)
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Post by ≧▽≦Pipopapo on Feb 17, 2021 3:40:54 GMT
If you use weapons like Excalibur (heavy light dmg autoskill) and Eraser (100% trigger rate low DMG autoskill) and adds like, fallen angel wing (high DMG dark autoskill and 20% MATK) and Angel ring (MATK15% and a high DMG light Autoskill) it'll go smoothly (probably, I haven't reached Joshua in enchanter alt) hell nah joshuca will slap you with 30k dmg and She got a Huge Def on melee and magic
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Post by Undyne on Feb 17, 2021 6:26:45 GMT
That boss probably has very high mdef and pdef. Has no effect against ailments though. That makes it easier to kill it using ailments. The major problem with other class is that, they need to stay in one spot and deal damage, that gives joshua very high chance to inflict stun and instant kill a player. Alchemist advantage is that, even when stunned they can continue to deal high constant dmg with ailments. And once they inflict ailments, Alchemist can just make a run to avoid traps, because it's a bad idea to stay close to joshua. Other classes seriously have no advantages at all against joshua. Other classes need to get close to joshua to do any dmg and that's just what that boss needs to easily kill any player, by getting close. Eh? You sure its just stunning is the danger? Cause if it was that was just it then paladins with awake skill would solo them. Especially their first 50% HP where they're dark (Spam holy thrust) and the other 50% which is light just spam guardian. But you never hear of paladins having the ability to solo non mq Joshua, why is this? The area of effect. Joshuca has 2 dangerous moves that are basically just isekai cheat abilities. The stun-->K.O. and the area of effect that takes major chunks of your HP every second. Having used an alchemist, she's still a pain. She has a ridiculous amount of ailment resist Phase 1, you have to cast skills 5-6 times just to get the ailments down. Casting Meteor is a dangerous proposition, but if you don't, will likely time out from lack of dps. Alch dps is very low to begin with, taking a solid minute to even get it going hurts.
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Post by blackghost on Feb 17, 2021 7:00:11 GMT
If you use weapons like Excalibur (heavy light dmg autoskill) and Eraser (100% trigger rate low DMG autoskill) and adds like, fallen angel wing (high DMG dark autoskill and 20% MATK) and Angel ring (MATK15% and a high DMG light Autoskill) it'll go smoothly (probably, I haven't reached Joshua in enchanter alt) hell nah joshuca will slap you with 30k dmg and She got a Huge Def on melee and magic then just use Max HP 20%×2 in an armor and spec, 2s if you can. Stone skin then gives you a nice second HP bar. The excalibur has a decent Mdef% ability to help tank. Of course this is all theoretical, but a plan nonetheless.
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Post by blackghost on Feb 17, 2021 7:02:17 GMT
Enchanters have that melee and magic pierce they use too. Pole talisman 1s/2s should do nice. VIT at 100-150. I think it MIGHT work. Of course, this is all theoretical.
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