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Post by divinelight on Aug 27, 2020 7:16:43 GMT
Does anyone know a magic spell using class that can solo joshuca in non-mq mode other than alchemist provided they have the necessary sets of equipments like resist,disable and or also utilizes survival skills etc? And if there are iruna magic class using youtubers reading could you please provide a non-cut video showing your magic spell using class other than alchemist to solo non-mq mode joshuca? Thank you if you could do that. I have only seen alchemist so far being able to solo non-mq mode joshuca, but it will be very interesting and neat seeing if other magic spell casting class can also solo non-mq mode joshuca too provided they are well prepared
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Post by wonderer on Aug 27, 2020 9:59:18 GMT
That boss probably has very high mdef and pdef. Has no effect against ailments though. That makes it easier to kill it using ailments. The major problem with other class is that, they need to stay in one spot and deal damage, that gives joshua very high chance to inflict stun and instant kill a player. Alchemist advantage is that, even when stunned they can continue to deal high constant dmg with ailments. And once they inflict ailments, Alchemist can just make a run to avoid traps, because it's a bad idea to stay close to joshua. Other classes seriously have no advantages at all against joshua. Other classes need to get close to joshua to do any dmg and that's just what that boss needs to easily kill any player, by getting close.
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Post by divinelight on Aug 27, 2020 10:42:58 GMT
That boss probably has very high mdef and pdef. Has no effect against ailments though. That makes it easier to kill it using ailments. The major problem with other class is that, they need to stay in one spot and deal damage, that gives joshua very high chance to inflict stun and instant kill a player. Alchemist advantage is that, even when stunned they can continue to deal high constant dmg with ailments. And once they inflict ailments, Alchemist can just make a run to avoid traps, because it's a bad idea to stay close to joshua. Other classes seriously have no advantages at all against joshua. Other classes need to get close to joshua to do any dmg and that's just what that boss needs to easily kill any player, by getting close. oh so realistically the alchemist is virtually the only magical class that is capable of soloing non-mq joshuca because of ailments, so in a sense non-mq joshuca was designed by asobimo for the purpose of making ailments an absolute necessity in order to defeat her is that right? I heard that necromancers are the most tankiest of the wizard branch, so if they are well prepared with resist and or disable for their bone knight do you think they might have a chance as anoher magical using class to solo non-mq joshuca?
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Post by wonderer on Aug 27, 2020 10:52:21 GMT
That boss probably has very high mdef and pdef. Has no effect against ailments though. That makes it easier to kill it using ailments. The major problem with other class is that, they need to stay in one spot and deal damage, that gives joshua very high chance to inflict stun and instant kill a player. Alchemist advantage is that, even when stunned they can continue to deal high constant dmg with ailments. And once they inflict ailments, Alchemist can just make a run to avoid traps, because it's a bad idea to stay close to joshua. Other classes seriously have no advantages at all against joshua. Other classes need to get close to joshua to do any dmg and that's just what that boss needs to easily kill any player, by getting close. oh so realistically the alchemist is virtually the only magical class that is capable of soloing non-mq joshuca because of ailments, so in a sense non-mq joshuca was designed by asobimo for the purpose of making ailments an absolute necessity in order to defeat her is that right? I heard that necromancers are the most tankiest of the wizard branch, so if they are well prepared with resist and or disable for their bone knight do you think they might have a chance as anoher magical using class to solo non-mq joshuca? The major problem is, joshua is dark element first 50% of hp, and switches to light element by remaining 50% of hp. Joshua takes high dmg when remaining 50% hp and less, but is also more aggressive and does more dmg. And because necromancer is focused more on dark element, the dmg of necromancer skills will be very low in the first half of boss hp.
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Post by divinelight on Aug 27, 2020 11:06:06 GMT
oh so realistically the alchemist is virtually the only magical class that is capable of soloing non-mq joshuca because of ailments, so in a sense non-mq joshuca was designed by asobimo for the purpose of making ailments an absolute necessity in order to defeat her is that right? I heard that necromancers are the most tankiest of the wizard branch, so if they are well prepared with resist and or disable for their bone knight do you think they might have a chance as anoher magical using class to solo non-mq joshuca? The major problem is, joshua is dark element first 50% of hp, and switches to light element by remaining 50% of hp. Joshua takes high dmg when remaining 50% hp and less, but is also more aggressive and does more dmg. And because necromancer is focused more on dark element, the dmg of necromancer skills will be very low in the first half of boss hp. oh so basically if they somehow manage to reach 50% of non-mq joshuca's health and are careful enough to avoid her thorns and constantly switch between their resist/disable set and matk set as necessary in their Cemetery field and for resummoning bone knight as they deal damage with their matk set while bone knight is tanking, they might be able to pull off the solo of non-mq joshuca, however the time spent in the first half might render the solo as although possible is very inefficient requires alot of effort and skilled maneuvering and time consuming as it may take them around 9 to 14 minutes just to solo her even once right wonderer?
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Post by wonderer on Aug 27, 2020 12:33:25 GMT
The major problem is, joshua is dark element first 50% of hp, and switches to light element by remaining 50% of hp. Joshua takes high dmg when remaining 50% hp and less, but is also more aggressive and does more dmg. And because necromancer is focused more on dark element, the dmg of necromancer skills will be very low in the first half of boss hp. oh so basically if they somehow manage to reach 50% of non-mq joshuca's health and are careful enough to avoid her thorns and constantly switch between their resist/disable set and matk set as necessary in their Cemetery field and for resummoning bone knight as they deal damage with their matk set while bone knight is tanking, they might be able to pull off the solo of non-mq joshuca, however the time spent in the first half might render the solo as although possible is very inefficient requires alot of effort and skilled maneuvering and time consuming as it may take them around 9 to 14 minutes just to solo her even once right wonderer? Idk maybe you can get more insight by players who have necromancer.
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Post by divinelight on Aug 27, 2020 13:29:49 GMT
oh so basically if they somehow manage to reach 50% of non-mq joshuca's health and are careful enough to avoid her thorns and constantly switch between their resist/disable set and matk set as necessary in their Cemetery field and for resummoning bone knight as they deal damage with their matk set while bone knight is tanking, they might be able to pull off the solo of non-mq joshuca, however the time spent in the first half might render the solo as although possible is very inefficient requires alot of effort and skilled maneuvering and time consuming as it may take them around 9 to 14 minutes just to solo her even once right wonderer? Idk maybe you can get more insight by players who have necromancer. oh ok i do see someone in necromancer section made a complete necromancer guide named Undyne maybe if they could see this thread they might be able to provide insight on how necromancer could do against non-mq joshuca if well prepared
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Post by godofafro on Aug 27, 2020 14:39:56 GMT
I think bishops have a very high candidancy to solo joshuca, given they are able to afford punishments for potential mistakes against her.
i.e ress
It might also help that some solo bishops are int/dex/vit with agi next, so the potential agi will help them in evading joshie
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Post by Done~with~forums on Aug 27, 2020 17:38:05 GMT
I think bishops have a very high candidancy to solo joshuca, given they are able to afford punishments for potential mistakes against her. i.e ress It might also help that some solo bishops are int/dex/vit with agi next, so the potential agi will help them in evading joshie lvl 388 bish with 300+ agi and all green al has 1k evasion
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Aug 28, 2020 0:17:42 GMT
I have a level 359 Necromancer.
Normally most of the bosses, while I posses Bone Knight do a very low damage to me (Using full MATK set).
Even on Golden Sauro (The highest leveled one) I was the only one who did not die even once, my GM (A cap Paladin) was dying a lot.
But the problem with Joshuca is that she has high everything: High HP, Def, Mdef, Resist, Damage and Pierce, plus she is dark element at her first half of hp. Using Bone Knight Possession, I get a lot of damage and do lame dps to her.
That was some time ago, maybe I could try later.
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Post by Undyne on Aug 28, 2020 2:34:23 GMT
I see Bishop and potentially Necro as capable of doing it.
As most ppl have said, main issue is pushing through the first phase, cuz it's an automatic-50% dmg due to elements. I have done it before, requires significant luck/skill to do.
Don't bother using Cemetery, it doesn't help lol... especially when map effects pull you out of it, causing it to hurt/potentially kill you.
The skill part comes in when you realize you absolutely have to use Phantom Possession or risk timing out, you just don't do enough dmg as Bone Knight. I can tank her all day as Bone Knight, but the dmg is sad.
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Post by divinelight on Aug 28, 2020 3:48:38 GMT
I see Bishop and potentially Necro as capable of doing it. As most ppl have said, main issue is pushing through the first phase, cuz it's an automatic-50% dmg due to elements. I have done it before, requires significant luck/skill to do. Don't bother using Cemetery, it doesn't help lol... especially when map effects pull you out of it, causing it to hurt/potentially kill you. The skill part comes in when you realize you absolutely have to use Phantom Possession or risk timing out, you just don't do enough dmg as Bone Knight. I can tank her all day as Bone Knight, but the dmg is sad. oh i see undyne thank you for sharing your insight as a knowledgeable and experienced necromancer, yes i can see necromancer and bishop having the potential to pull off the solo against non-mq joshuca and that the great struggle is pushing through the first phase as necromancer or the 2nd phase as bishop due to elements like others have said, and your right Cemetery is useless due to map pulling effects, and do you think an autoskill set of opposite elements to necromancer and bishop might help in the respective phases of non-mq joshuca they struggle with? Like powerful dark auto set for bishop, and powerful light auto set for necromancer?
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Post by divinelight on Aug 28, 2020 3:56:01 GMT
I have a level 359 Necromancer. Normally most of the bosses, while I posses Bone Knight do a very low damage to me (Using full MATK set). Even on Golden Sauro (The highest leveled one) I was the only one who did not die even once, my GM (A cap Paladin) was dying a lot. But the problem with Joshuca is that she has high everything: High HP, Def, Mdef, Resist, Damage and Pierce, plus she is dark element at her first half of hp. Using Bone Knight Possession, I get a lot of damage and do lame dps to her. That was some time ago, maybe I could try later. yes necromancer has incredible survival as undyne's necromancer could tank non-mq joshuca all day, and yes that will be really neat to see your necromancer soloing non-mq joshuca, i and others reading will look foward to seeing necromancer and their great potential to solo non-mq joshuca!!
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I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Aug 28, 2020 12:51:16 GMT
I think with a good balance between eva and HP, a magic nin could do it it'd be hard but possible i think ._.)
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Post by divinelight on Aug 28, 2020 15:43:11 GMT
I think with a good balance between eva and HP, a magic nin could do it it'd be hard but possible i think ._.) that would be very neat to see magic nin solo non-mq joshuca provided they are well prepared with everything they need to survive which can include resist and or disable sets for times without clones or during blind and stun, and adequate damage set when they are protected by clones, including a adequate amount of hp and eva like you said, i saw your youtube videos before and you have shown that magic nin are capable of alot of things, and when you are fully prepared with everything that is needed to survive and take on non-mq mode joshuca and hopefully solo her thank you if you could please make a uncut video of that, it will be a monumental and glorious milestone that could show indeed that there are magical spell casting classes other than alchemists such as magic nin bishop and necromancers etc that are also capable of taking down non-mq mode joshuca especially if they are well prepared with everything they need to survive and take her on.
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