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Post by Mystrean on Jun 14, 2020 16:31:52 GMT
Hello folks, my IGN is Mystrean, a free poor monk. You can meet me often at Raid140 S1 as Blederia or Daedalus XD. Today I would like to discuss about the financial structure of the game.
First off I started wondering that where those rich players get Spinas from?
The answer that I have found is that they do from selling equipments whether from drops or production. But...still those who bought it must got spina from elsewhere. Then I make
a hypothesis that in the whole world of Iruna has certain growing amount of Spina fron NPCing which also is the cause of price inflation in raids market.
From this I can see a conspiracy that if one group of player do bosses botting (whivh I would mention later) can sell rare drops enough to gain a big margin of Spina and start
setting price that only them can afford in the long term. Is it possible to rule Iruna from this hypothesis? Don't worry, I will never going to try or suggest anyone to ruin the game like that, just a curiousity from
financial structure!
As I mentioned above, I do exploring economy and also programming, 3D designs and printing, engineering and robotics. Therefore I love to put my
knowledge into practise whereas I make a full self-designed mechanical bot which is for educational case only. Now it is not finished yet, let me know if it is prohibited or not to create a thread about it. If not, then I will do one soon!
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Post by Aza on Jun 14, 2020 21:33:20 GMT
Aside from the points you have already said, the community in the old times used to selling gold nuggets to merchant for millions. Also, hacks. Directly or indirectly.
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Post by rahovart on Jun 15, 2020 0:19:25 GMT
Technically I'd say it was a snowball effect from when the game first started. Longer the games been around the more spina people have gotten from NPCs. I just strip XD
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Post by callmebob on Jun 15, 2020 1:52:37 GMT
I believe this has been discussed here already a few years ago. My memory is hazy, but I do remember a similar thread exists. Maybe some of the info you're looking for are there.
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Post by Tilt*Madara on Jun 15, 2020 5:02:35 GMT
I think im rich (Imo its when you have 5b+ at a time) and I make all my spina by selling common/uncommon mob drops. I never farm equipment/xtals because it takes too much time and I would rather farm for 3 hours and get three hours worth of spina every time than farm 3 hours and possibly get nothing. Then have to do it all over again and still have a pretty good chance of getting nothing.
- Mq items are good because everyone going through mq (Everyone) will need these
- Upgrade materials for something thats usually always farmed and sold. For example, Struggler Tellas,
- Production mats are great at any level and all alchemist at all levels will thank you. Lots of times lazy high lvls dont want to farm chakos for 4 hours.
And of course the best way to do this is to find a mob with multiple items you can sell.
Probably make around 400-600m a day easy, if I try hard maybe a billy a day.
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Post by °Malice° on Jun 15, 2020 8:50:45 GMT
Aside from the points you have already said, the community in the old times used to selling gold nuggets to merchant for millions. Also, hacks. Directly or indirectly. about hack, i seen this char appeared at zalm plains, after a moment thers lot of sidatz appeared and its crowded, ppl keeps killing the sidatz but it spawned again n again then he dissappeared, after like 1 mins the spawn return to normal. Im not sure about spina hack is real. But for prod gold nugget with bot its possible and that could be the main cause of spina inflation in iruna. The main raw materials to make gold nugget is 1 stone by chance. With double, triple, quadruple , quintuple, sextuple, septuple, octuple and whatsoever count of devices and botting, making stks of gold nugget is ez. |
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Post by mystery on Jun 17, 2020 15:07:32 GMT
The game was created a long time ago with an old school "open trading system". Maybe the devs that time didn't know that this kind of system will cause an unstable economy and a non-stop RMT thus they don't also bother about making some changes with it. "Most" RPG's right now have adapted to the old school by making a new system that will not cause an unstable economy.
Eg. An NPC who manages all players items price by putting a fixed price base on the quality of the item. An NPC who knows how to balance the economy base on the supply and demand.
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Post by Mystrean on Jun 19, 2020 20:14:26 GMT
I think im rich (Imo its when you have 5b+ at a time) and I make all my spina by selling common/uncommon mob drops. I never farm equipment/xtals because it takes too much time and I would rather farm for 3 hours and get three hours worth of spina every time than farm 3 hours and possibly get nothing. Then have to do it all over again and still have a pretty good chance of getting nothing. - Mq items are good because everyone going through mq (Everyone) will need these - Upgrade materials for something thats usually always farmed and sold. For example, Struggler Tellas, - Production mats are great at any level and all alchemist at all levels will thank you. Lots of times lazy high lvls dont want to farm chakos for 4 hours. And of course the best way to do this is to find a mob with multiple items you can sell. Probably make around 400-600m a day easy, if I try hard maybe a billy a day. Oh, is that you Tilt? one of my favorite iruna youtuber amswered me, oh my God! As you said around 400m per day, do you sell it by stall or in rokoko open market? |
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Post by Mystrean on Jun 19, 2020 20:14:54 GMT
Thanks to all of you guys for informations comments and tips!
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Post by Tilt*Madara on Jun 21, 2020 5:43:49 GMT
I think im rich (Imo its when you have 5b+ at a time) and I make all my spina by selling common/uncommon mob drops. I never farm equipment/xtals because it takes too much time and I would rather farm for 3 hours and get three hours worth of spina every time than farm 3 hours and possibly get nothing. Then have to do it all over again and still have a pretty good chance of getting nothing. - Mq items are good because everyone going through mq (Everyone) will need these - Upgrade materials for something thats usually always farmed and sold. For example, Struggler Tellas, - Production mats are great at any level and all alchemist at all levels will thank you. Lots of times lazy high lvls dont want to farm chakos for 4 hours. And of course the best way to do this is to find a mob with multiple items you can sell. Probably make around 400-600m a day easy, if I try hard maybe a billy a day. Oh, is that you Tilt? one of my favorite iruna youtuber amswered me, oh my God! As you said around 400m per day, do you sell it by stall or in rokoko open market? Thanks XD and sorry for the late response. Always stall since what im farming is pretty low in price per piece |
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Post by eleryl on Jun 22, 2020 16:37:06 GMT
as for inflation it start from gold nugget and after that we got sh to faster the prod interval n everything and finally we got the most broken cheat which is duplication cheat.
you can duplicate any amount of item you want.
maybe there is some player that used it to multiply gold nugget and make a huge amount of spina out of it.
and after the spina finally distributed and every price began to rise they start duplicate sauro II xtall.
I never got my hand on that kind of cheat coz I rly love iruna and don't want to ruin it at all but that's the truth of what happen back in the day.
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Post by danshin on Feb 27, 2021 15:23:22 GMT
So, the spina we use today, comes from cheating ?! 😟😞
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Post by blackghost on Feb 27, 2021 22:13:00 GMT
So, the spina we use today, comes from cheating ?! 😟😞 not really. A majority if not most of that is caused by money from quests, selling excess items at merchant stalls and the spins pouch. Cheats aren't used ALL the time by every player but 2 of the 3 things I mentioned that create spins from nothing is and has always been available to everyone all the time, thus, it creates spina at an equal if not higher rate. |
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Post by danshin on Feb 27, 2021 23:32:02 GMT
So, the spina we use today, comes from cheating ?! 😟😞 not really. A majority if not most of that is caused by money from quests, selling excess items at merchant stalls and the spins pouch. Cheats aren't used ALL the time by every player but 2 of the 3 things I mentioned that create spins from nothing is and has always been available to everyone all the time, thus, it creates spina at an equal if not higher rate. Thank you for the answer.I wonder, how much spina price for now if there's no cheaters XD |
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Post by Done~with~forums on Feb 28, 2021 1:13:00 GMT
danshin with no cheats at this point in time when iruna is years old it would not made much of a difference the spina is constantly generated
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