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Post by dalton on May 11, 2020 11:46:22 GMT
Hello guys!
I am a newbie BK, and i want my build to be a bit tanky
My stat at lvl 354
str 390 (will add to max)
vit 200 (will add more when i get more points, around 240 or 260)
dex 260
crt 370 (will add to max)
grn line 100
4grn 4yellow
my al atm
vaten, leviam, barbad (cheap al for rf dmg), rate cut (cheap rc al that give 4% rc), neutral resist (another cheap al)
so i have two last slot for my al crysta and i want one rate cut al for that and there are 2 rc al,
vulschem
MaxHP+5%, Neutral R +3% Rate cut +10%
malti
Rate cut +10%, Melee pierce +10% Ailment R +5%
So my question is which one is better,
first,for malti. is ailment r can reduce ailment damage like lowering poison and burn damage? is melee pierce good for bk?
or is vulschem would do better with that neutral r?
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Post by Aza on May 11, 2020 12:25:10 GMT
Hello guys! I am a newbie BK, and i want my build to be a bit tanky My stat at lvl 354 str 390 (will add to max) vit 200 (will add more when i get more points, around 240 or 260) dex 260 crt 370 (will add to max) grn line 100 4grn 4yellow my al atm vaten, leviam, barbad (cheap al for rf dmg), rate cut (cheap rc al that give 4% rc), neutral resist (another cheap al) so i have two last slot for my al crysta and i want one rate cut al for that and there are 2 rc al, vulschem MaxHP+5%, Neutral R +3% Rate cut +10% malti Rate cut +10%, Melee pierce +10% Ailment R +5% So my question is which one is better, first,for malti. is ailment r can reduce ailment damage like lowering poison and burn damage? is melee pierce good for bk? or is vulschem would do better with that neutral r? I have a BK and I'm doing fine without both. But I think Vulschem will give better defensive power. Melee pierce is not needed since tyrant edge is capable of bypassing barrier. Extra 5% ailment resist is also meh. |
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Post by dalton on May 11, 2020 13:10:07 GMT
Hello guys! I am a newbie BK, and i want my build to be a bit tanky My stat at lvl 354 str 390 (will add to max) vit 200 (will add more when i get more points, around 240 or 260) dex 260 crt 370 (will add to max) grn line 100 4grn 4yellow my al atm vaten, leviam, barbad (cheap al for rf dmg), rate cut (cheap rc al that give 4% rc), neutral resist (another cheap al) so i have two last slot for my al crysta and i want one rate cut al for that and there are 2 rc al, vulschem MaxHP+5%, Neutral R +3% Rate cut +10% malti Rate cut +10%, Melee pierce +10% Ailment R +5% So my question is which one is better, first,for malti. is ailment r can reduce ailment damage like lowering poison and burn damage? is melee pierce good for bk? or is vulschem would do better with that neutral r? I have a BK and I'm doing fine without both. But I think Vulschem will give better defensive power. Melee pierce is not needed since tyrant edge is capable of bypassing barrier. Extra 5% ailment resist is also meh. Oh you are doing good without rc? I plan to use one rc al in case a boss would deal 100% rate dmg (although idk which boss would dealt that rate dmg) to survive in boss battle. So should i change it to damage al? could you recommend a good damage al for bk without sacrificing resist |
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Post by Aza on May 11, 2020 19:44:39 GMT
Oh you are doing good without rc? I plan to use one rc al in case a boss would deal 100% rate dmg (although idk which boss would dealt that rate dmg) to survive in boss battle. So should i change it to damage al? could you recommend a good damage al for bk without sacrificing resist Some bosses that I know do huge RC dmg, are Mish, Joshuca and Obligaus 400. 3i and Yarde also have high RC dmg. I think there are more.. Try Union Sam it's a good balance al. Another good one I have in mind is Spikeleon I'm not using this one though. Both are expensive and hard to get. Sticking to Vulschem/Malti is also a good choice since both are relatively easy to get on the market and useful. So in the end it's up to you. |
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Post by ≧▽≦Pipopapo on May 12, 2020 1:03:16 GMT
Why not both?
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Post by dalton on May 12, 2020 13:14:30 GMT
Well i plan to use shelk al on my other slot, because i want to make an evasion set. With 100 grl and at my current lvl my base eva is 558, and i hope that my eva would increase to 600 when i reach lvl 400. And with eva set that i planned low2/moon scimitar2 (20% eva)+ exelis (15% eva)+ shelk (15% eva) = +50% eva I think i could get around 900 eva without agi and with some eva abi maybe i could reach 1k eva, 10% magic eva from shelk and leviam ,and plus magic and absolute eva from grn line. Well this is my personal build a bit tanky and evasive. I am not really care about my damage though, i am satisfied with my current damage. And maybe i could make an atk set later if i get my second al page |
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Post by Owe on May 13, 2020 21:46:33 GMT
I don’t know how your abi set is looking, but while more expensive they provide the highest rate cut resistance of any gear. 5 gives 20%, 4 gets 16%, 3 gets 12% which all together is 48% which might be enough 🤷♂️. Whether you go sword (60% melee r with guard) or claw (45% absolute eva) we have innate defensive skills that already lower the need for rate cut resistance. But whatever you choose, I’d recommend using your Abis for rate cut first, and if you need more, go to Als. That way you can potentially have space for better Als (for instance if you’re using a quick cool right now, rate cut 5+sauro ii al>quick cool+Malti/vulschem)
Anyway my vote is actually with Malti. The melee pierce helps in nearly all parts of the game, except tyrants edge. Remember half of surviving is how long you have to survive, so if you can boost offense and defense, you’re better off than boosting either alone.
Also you should check out Gloire if it could fit in your build
Gloire (Strengthened 1) [Additional]
ATK: 12 DEF: 14
ASPD+20%, Melee pierce +8%, Evasion +30%, Critical up, Small Magic R up by AGI. Crt rate up chance
It has 10% magic res at 256 Agi and 18% at 450 if you were thinking of doing something with LoW. Also it has 30% eva alone (pretty sure it’s the highest single equip). Shelk + Gloire = 45% eva which is 5% off of 50% plus you’re open to use anything else you would want
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Post by dalton on May 14, 2020 9:43:12 GMT
I don’t know how your abi set is looking, but while more expensive they provide the highest rate cut resistance of any gear. 5 gives 20%, 4 gets 16%, 3 gets 12% which all together is 48% which might be enough 🤷♂️. Whether you go sword (60% melee r with guard) or claw (45% absolute eva) we have innate defensive skills that already lower the need for rate cut resistance. But whatever you choose, I’d recommend using your Abis for rate cut first, and if you need more, go to Als. That way you can potentially have space for better Als (for instance if you’re using a quick cool right now, rate cut 5+sauro ii al>quick cool+Malti/vulschem) Anyway my vote is actually with Malti. The melee pierce helps in nearly all parts of the game, except tyrants edge. Remember half of surviving is how long you have to survive, so if you can boost offense and defense, you’re better off than boosting either alone. Also you should check out Gloire if it could fit in your build Gloire (Strengthened 1) [Additional] ATK: 12 DEF: 14 ASPD+20%, Melee pierce +8%, Evasion +30%, Critical up, Small Magic R up by AGI. Crt rate up chance It has 10% magic res at 256 Agi and 18% at 450 if you were thinking of doing something with LoW. Also it has 30% eva alone (pretty sure it’s the highest single equip). Shelk + Gloire = 45% eva which is 5% off of 50% plus you’re open to use anything else you would want Unfortunately i didn't plan to add agi. I use low2/moon scimitar2 (moon sci 40% counter on eva looks good too) only for their evasion bonus. That gloire stat looks so good, i didn't know about that before, and with this gloire maybe i could achieve 1,2k eva 🤔 I plan to make a mix of resist and eva on my first al page. And damage for my second al page. btw how many ignition for second page? My damage gear atm Desperado+9 raguel (+5% rc) Boo up iniliba Monty up ideaus Sbs 2 ideaus I didn't have my planned eva set atm. Should i use rc on my damage gear or other abi? |
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Post by Owe on May 14, 2020 15:11:02 GMT
Unfortunately i didn't plan to add agi. I use low2/moon scimitar2 (moon sci 40% counter on eva looks good too) only for their evasion bonus. That gloire stat looks so good, i didn't know about that before, and with this gloire maybe i could achieve 1,2k eva 🤔 I plan to make a mix of resist and eva on my first al page. And damage for my second al page. btw how many ignition for second page? My damage gear atm Desperado+9 raguel (+5% rc) Boo up iniliba Monty up ideaus Sbs 2 ideaus I didn't have my planned eva set atm. Should i use rc on my damage gear or other abi? Yeah the magic r isn’t crucial, the biggest thing is the evasion. I’m sure with onr or two eva abilities, you’ll break 1.2k anyway. Iirc second page comes at 500 ignites But yeah try rc abilities at 3i, if they’re hitting you too hard then add more and more. Some good Als you could use are: Sauro ii/iii (element r stacks multiplicatively with res so it lowers dmg recieved quite a bit) Spikeleon (the higher you can get your magic eva or res the better, magic damage is bk’s Achilles heel) Bernhardt (another magic eva choice) Union Sam (probably the best al in the game once you unlock all its stats) Ignatz (magic r and max hp) Merario (vit+ boosts hp quite a bit also you get some atk) Ster (melee Pierce can be looked at as extra attack, lowering their def practically raises your atk) Ouvel (harsh negative but high atk boost) Valtia (abs eva and atk) |
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Post by Aza on May 14, 2020 16:01:16 GMT
Wow after I do the math 1.2k eva is achievable without any AGI
At lv 420, 420 eva
Moon scimitar II 20% + 32 raw evasion
Gloire 30%
Shelk 15%
Quick turn 20%
If using 100 Glb and 5 green 3 yellow (5 green gives 73 raw eva)
(420+32+73*3)*1.85 = 1241
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Post by dalton on May 14, 2020 21:12:27 GMT
Unfortunately i didn't plan to add agi. I use low2/moon scimitar2 (moon sci 40% counter on eva looks good too) only for their evasion bonus. That gloire stat looks so good, i didn't know about that before, and with this gloire maybe i could achieve 1,2k eva 🤔 I plan to make a mix of resist and eva on my first al page. And damage for my second al page. btw how many ignition for second page? My damage gear atm Desperado+9 raguel (+5% rc) Boo up iniliba Monty up ideaus Sbs 2 ideaus I didn't have my planned eva set atm. Should i use rc on my damage gear or other abi? Yeah the magic r isn’t crucial, the biggest thing is the evasion. I’m sure with onr or two eva abilities, you’ll break 1.2k anyway. Iirc second page comes at 500 ignites But yeah try rc abilities at 3i, if they’re hitting you too hard then add more and more. Some good Als you could use are: Sauro ii/iii (element r stacks multiplicatively with res so it lowers dmg recieved quite a bit) Spikeleon (the higher you can get your magic eva or res the better, magic damage is bk’s Achilles heel) Bernhardt (another magic eva choice) Union Sam (probably the best al in the game once you unlock all its stats) Ignatz (magic r and max hp) Merario (vit+ boosts hp quite a bit also you get some atk) Ster (melee Pierce can be looked at as extra attack, lowering their def practically raises your atk) Ouvel (harsh negative but high atk boost) Valtia (abs eva and atk) With my al and gear now which is cap melee resist with guard, 3i dealt around 1,2-1,3k shell break damage and i think it's not that much damage as i usually auto attack 3i while waiting for people to add me to pta, and that much damage is easily healed by bite (heal 1,2-1,3k hp when proc, *really hope for bite to proc with skill that increase beast% (beast slash, tyrant, impact blow) if there is an update 😌). Am i okay without rc with this? Btw i usually play as a tank role in pta, that's why i make resist set on my first al page and don't really care about damage for now. |
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Post by Owe on May 16, 2020 2:44:19 GMT
Yeah the magic r isn’t crucial, the biggest thing is the evasion. I’m sure with onr or two eva abilities, you’ll break 1.2k anyway. Iirc second page comes at 500 ignites But yeah try rc abilities at 3i, if they’re hitting you too hard then add more and more. Some good Als you could use are: Sauro ii/iii (element r stacks multiplicatively with res so it lowers dmg recieved quite a bit) Spikeleon (the higher you can get your magic eva or res the better, magic damage is bk’s Achilles heel) Bernhardt (another magic eva choice) Union Sam (probably the best al in the game once you unlock all its stats) Ignatz (magic r and max hp) Merario (vit+ boosts hp quite a bit also you get some atk) Ster (melee Pierce can be looked at as extra attack, lowering their def practically raises your atk) Ouvel (harsh negative but high atk boost) Valtia (abs eva and atk) With my al and gear now which is cap melee resist with guard, 3i dealt around 1,2-1,3k shell break damage and i think it's not that much damage as i usually auto attack 3i while waiting for people to add me to pta, and that much damage is easily healed by bite (heal 1,2-1,3k hp when proc, *really hope for bite to proc with skill that increase beast% (beast slash, tyrant, impact blow) if there is an update 😌). Am i okay without rc with this? Btw i usually play as a tank role in pta, that's why i make resist set on my first al page and don't really care about damage for now. Honestly you should be fine. Even if you couldn’t get a single bite to proc, they’d need to hit you several times to make a significant dip into your hp. With bosses I’m not sure of all of the highest damages that do get reduced by rate cut, but either way with your vit you should have 0 problems. With max res I’d be looking to improve my damage as much as possible! |
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